Ginga, Uruguay. An Esterbrook Clone

[antoniosz]

I have always been absolutely fascinated with what we call "clones" over the ages. Here is another one. You Esties fans might like it. Ginga from Uruguay with a Warranted 2668 nib. Who made it? When? Why? No answers, just questions at this point... Any ideas please let me know.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 21, 2019 by antoniosz

[carlos.q]

Those are import tax stamps on the pens. Ginga was apparently a japanese manufacturer that made Esterbrook clones during the 1950's and 1960's:

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/195612-ginga-fp-any-data/

Edited December 21, 2019 by carlos.q

[antoniosz]

Those are import tax stamps on the pens. Ginga was apparently a japanese manufacturer that made Esterbrook clones during the 1950's and 1960's:

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/195612-ginga-fp-any-data/

Thanks Carlos. I was just looking at that post! One of the tax stamps says: Setiebre 1952.

[Sailor Kenshin]

'Ginga' means galaxy in Japanese. I would love to get my hands on such a pen.

[gweimer1]

Cool!

[Hobiwan]

If it's the "Warranted" I know, they made 14K nibs for other penmakers, and loose nibs as replacements. So did Esterbrook make these for Warranted, or ..... ?

[gweimer1]

If it's the "Warranted" I know, they made 14K nibs for other penmakers, and loose nibs as replacements. So did Esterbrook make these for Warranted, or ..... ?

 

I have a Whymper clone, and it has a Warranted 2668 nib on it. I think my Masterlook pen set also has a numbered nib.

 

We found out at the Ohio Pen Show this year that Esterbrook would make nibs in quantity. The Warren Mfg. Paper Pen used nibs made by Esterbrook, without their name on them.

[antoniosz]

 

I have a Whymper clone, and it has a Warranted 2668 nib on it. I think my Masterlook pen set also has a numbered nib.

 

We found out at the Ohio Pen Show this year that Esterbrook would make nibs in quantity. The Warren Mfg. Paper Pen used nibs made by Esterbrook, without their name on them.

Whymper clone! Can we see a picture?

[Jerome Tarshis]

If it's the "Warranted" I know, they made 14K nibs for other penmakers, and loose nibs as replacements. So did Esterbrook make these for Warranted, or ..... ?

 

I believe Warranted was a subsidiary of Generic, a much larger company. The division was briefly called Guaranteed, but then they changed the name. Commercial description is sometimes inexact. From reading various posts by people who do pen repair, I get the impression that not all nibs warranted to be 14K really were a full 14K. I post that last sentence under correction, and would be happy to hear from people who have looked into this.

[FarmBoy]

We once tested various nibs produced by the said Warranted and they sparsely warranted the 14K monicker in that 14 was a stretch even if one used new math rounding.

 

Based on the age of the Warranted nibs it most certainly is not the name of a town in Connecticut or a village in China a few miles from the known birthplace of Iridium Tipped.

Edited December 26, 2019 by FarmBoy

[Jerome Tarshis]

My sister lives near Iridium Point, an exclusive and not merely expensive village on the North Shore of Long Island. The residents have been able to conceal the town 's existence from the editors of Forbes Magazine, but it has come to the attention of manufacturers in both Germany and China.

[corgicoupe]

I think Jerome is joking.

[FarmBoy]

I think Jerome is joking.

I see the humor but then I’m equally derailed in that department.