Fuliwen 017

[MuddyWaters]

Anyone try the Fuliwen 017? It got extremely good review from chris rap. Looks like a well-sized Chinese pen (for once) with a #6 nib.

[MuddyWaters]

Well I purchased one so can provide thoughts in a few weeks.

[jekostas]

They're bright, colourful and shiny. Given that I'm basically a magpie when it comes to collecting fountain pens, I'll have to get one.

Edited September 14, 2019 by jekostas

[sansenri]

curious to know, who did you buy from?

 

this you have to see

https://www.etsy.com/listing/729239399/fuliwen-017-resin-fountain-pen-big-size

 

check the price ...

[jekostas]

curious to know, who did you buy from?

 

this you have to see

https://www.etsy.com/listing/729239399/fuliwen-017-resin-fountain-pen-big-size

 

check the price ...

 

A lot of sellers do this when they're out of stock but expect to get more. It prevents people from buying the pens and they don't have to re-create the listing when they stock back, just update the price.

Edited September 16, 2019 by jekostas

[sansenri]

sounds a clever trick, hope no-one pushes the button by mistake...

[sansenri]

Anyone try the Fuliwen 017? It got extremely good review from chris rap. Looks like a well-sized Chinese pen (for once) with a #6 nib.

I was keeping an eye on this before you started the thread, Muddy...

exactly for the reason you mention, this at last looks like a larger size Chinese pen, and the shape looks sensible too, no weird designs...

Edited September 16, 2019 by sansenri

[MuddyWaters]

There is a bit of a step down and the nib looks imprecise but we will see it in person in a few weeks...

[sansenri]

noticed but it looks like it's limited and the section is reasonably long

if the nib is a size 6 you should be able to swap it...

curious to see what you get

[Ememel]

Got mine last week, so don't have much to tell yet.

 

The pen and nib are nice and big, the color is beautiful. There's a darker strip in the acrylic and for the life of me, I can't get the cap's and pen's strips to align. I filled the pen with Sailor Jentle Shigure. The pen/nib seems to have a sweet spot and so far it's been a bit hard starting. When positioned correctly, it writes wet and smoothly. The nib is a broad medium/ medium broad.

 

 

 

[sansenri]

That looks nice and you sure matched the ink well!

(I've got to get me some Shigure too! )

[vojtahlad]

My pen just arrived, first impressions correspond to Ememel's. It is a very nice looking and fairly big pen. The nib is broad and tends to hard start due to a baby bottom. The snake-shaped roll stopper seems to be quite useless. It is quite loose and easy to slip. I am going to remove it to avoid scratching the cap.

[sansenri]

My pen just arrived, first impressions correspond to Ememel's. It is a very nice looking and fairly big pen. The nib is broad and tends to hard start due to a baby bottom. The snake-shaped roll stopper seems to be quite useless. It is quite loose and easy to slip. I am going to remove it to avoid scratching the cap.

Which colour did you get? any pictures?

[penzel_washinkton]

If Fuliwen have aftermarket #6 EF nibs then I would buy this pen the instant it becomes available again

[sansenri]

I would say the nib on it is a #6, it's very likely that you can easily swap it out with a nib of your choice.

 

These nibs in Chinese pens are usually fit in a collar but you can pull out nib and feed, swap the nib and put back a new nib with the original feed. It's unlikely you will find an EF on offer, the nib offered is usually just of one type.

The nib offered with this pen seems to be a medium (0,7 mm).

[penzel_washinkton]

Yes, it seems I was not quite thorough on the last post.

What I meant was if Fuliwen (or any other Chinese seller in that regards) has a cheap aftermarket #6 EF nib, sorry for the lack of information.

[Mech-for-i]

well first if its already provided by the Mfr, then its no longer after market ; or might be you mean if the Mfr could provide factory fit Bock , Jowo, or plain just any after market brand EF as an optional offer .. well some boutique pen model do offer that , but unlikely for the main stay brand like Wing Sung , Hero and NO; not even Fuliwan.

 

There is also the Q - what kind of EF are you looking for in a No.6 , firm EF to write fine lined text , or looking for EF that can do a bit or even plenty of line variation for that artistic approach of a need ?? Chinese fountain pen Mfr , is still largely tailoring their pen to their home market which is understandable considering majority of the product are sold there and actually sold to be used instead of just hobby ; their take on an EF nib might be very different from what most other part of the world including even fellow Asian , part of that mentality go towards the nib size and nib grind , an EF to them is like asking for a working nib that the user can use to write well EF , and for that they can do it much better in a No.5 and firm steel or something like the hooded nib or triumph nib ; and if one wants a no.6 its likely that one want to be more expressive in larger sized writing , thus the usual fine / FM or even broader grind, and also in the home market , its not uncommon to send nib to tech / specialist to tailor a grind ; so the usual case for a need for a really really EF no.6 , well , people just take their no.6 F and hand it over to the nib specialist and ask for that particular EF grind ( considering how different hand of writing Chinese language need might arise, one EF is just not enough ) Architect point and Cursive Triangular is two of the more common one

 

That stated, yes there are ready made ( or ready grind ) aftermarket EF no.6 , you will have to ask your supplier cause I wager they likely are not going to put just any after market parts online for retail ( its just not worth the effort to stock and manage ) ; perhaps the best and best known among them would be the Glacier ; and Fulin offer their quasi-calligraphy grind in both no.5 and no.6 and in both long tipping and short tipping , the following photo is one of their in 0.5mm no.5 ( which actually write more like EF to slightly FM ) ; call it a fusion between an Architect point + Sailor Zoom + Sailor Naginata ; but not the same vs the three They used to offer that in what they term 0.38/0.4mm but in real world use they are no different than the 0.5 so they eventually just stop selling that option and made the 0.5 that bit sharper on the tip. The short tipping typically write a bit finer than the long tipping and less demanding on the user ( penmanship part )

 

 

This is how the nib are before the grind

Edited September 27, 2019 by Mech-for-i

[penzel_washinkton]

well first if its already provided by the Mfr, then its no longer after market ; or might be you mean if the Mfr could provide factory fit Bock , Jowo, or plain just any after market brand EF as an optional offer .. well some boutique pen model do offer that , but unlikely for the main stay brand like Wing Sung , Hero and NO; not even Fuliwan.

 

There is also the Q - what kind of EF are you looking for in a No.6 , firm EF to write fine lined text , or looking for EF that can do a bit or even plenty of line variation for that artistic approach of a need ?? Chinese fountain pen Mfr , is still largely tailoring their pen to their home market which is understandable considering majority of the product are sold there and actually sold to be used instead of just hobby ; their take on an EF nib might be very different from what most other part of the world including even fellow Asian , part of that mentality go towards the nib size and nib grind , an EF to them is like asking for a working nib that the user can use to write well EF , and for that they can do it much better in a No.5 and firm steel or something like the hooded nib or triumph nib ; and if one wants a no.6 its likely that one want to be more expressive in larger sized writing , thus the usual fine / FM or even broader grind, and also in the home market , its not uncommon to send nib to tech / specialist to tailor a grind ; so the usual case for a need for a really really EF no.6 , well , people just take their no.6 F and hand it over to the nib specialist and ask for that particular EF grind ( considering how different hand of writing Chinese language need might arise, one EF is just not enough ) Architect point and Cursive Triangular is two of the more common one

 

That stated, yes there are ready made ( or ready grind ) aftermarket EF no.6 , you will have to ask your supplier cause I wager they likely are not going to put just any after market parts online for retail ( its just not worth the effort to stock and manage ) ; perhaps the best and best known among them would be the Glacier ; and Fulin offer their quasi-calligraphy grind in both no.5 and no.6 and in both long tipping and short tipping , the following photo is one of their in 0.5mm no.5 ( which actually write more like EF to slightly FM ) ; call it a fusion between an Architect point + Sailor Zoom + Sailor Naginata ; but not the same vs the three They used to offer that in what they term 0.38/0.4mm but in real world use they are no different than the 0.5 so they eventually just stop selling that option and made the 0.5 that bit sharper on the tip. The short tipping typically write a bit finer than the long tipping and less demanding on the user ( penmanship part )

 

What I meant was a seller that sells a pen that comes with an EF #6 nib OR a loose #6 EF nib seller so it can be swapped in to the Fuliwen pens.

 

I am actually a buyer who only scour the Chinese market through Ebay so that is actually a tough ask.

Usually I just see the listings on Ebay and so far the only manufacturer that have a listing branded "EF" on a #6 nibs is PenBBS (and they rarely have it in stock). Based on the bold version of your post, I think that might be the reason I don't see many Chinese seller with an EF #6 nib listing.

 

As for what kind of EF I am looking for, again it is hard to define but for reference sake I will use a Chinese Fine nib seen on Ebay (think Wing Sung 626 Fine regardless of the nib size). For me that line width is too thick for a fine hence I am wondering what a Chinese EF would be like.

Edited September 27, 2019 by penzel_washinkton

[Mech-for-i]

The Moonman / Delike EF is what EF like in a Chinese fountain pen ; the latest batch of Moonman 80/80S/80 Mini had one of the finest Fine around these days ( they change the nib to made it firmer after too many complain about too easy to sprung the tines ) ; and also the WSE Wing Sung Pilot style nib. I've found the usual Lamy style nib tend to be a sliver wider always. They generally in my experience write as fine as a Platinum Preppy 0.2 , well of course the ink and paper play a major role when we talk this fine.

 

There is not many no.6 nib and as far as just stock replacement nib or even Stock ; I am not seeing any EF on offer ; I had actually on order some Fulin nibs ( now in shipping ) and they should arrive next week , within the cache is a no.6 0.5mm ( aka their finest ) I'll see if I can fit it somewhere to give a sample when that come in

 

And yes, the PenBBS EF seems about the only one factory offered for now ... the lack of alternative grind always an Achilles Heel among all the Chinese fountain pen brands

[vojtahlad]

I am actually a buyer who only scour the Chinese market through Ebay so that is actually a tough ask.

Usually I just see the listings on Ebay and so far the only manufacturer that have a listing branded "EF" on a #6 nibs is PenBBS (and they rarely have it in stock).

 

Moonman started to produce #6 nibs for the M600S and M6 pens. The nibs are available in EF and F and can be purchased separately. I hope I can test if this nib fits the Fulwen 017 during this weekend.