Jump to content
Classifieds is broken, please do not submit any new ads ×

Is This Platinum ?


mns68
 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 11
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • cattar

    1

  • Mech-for-i

    3

  • mns68

    3

  • awa54

    2

Its not fake, but its also not quite Platinum as you would vision it, it was a Taiwan made Platinum ( when Platinum had a subsidiary there ) and was a mid low end range model tailored to then local market and was only made available there. AFAIK , the pen was made OEM by others as the brand never ever establish real manufacturing facilities there post war ( unlike Pilot and Sailor which did ) but none the less it is a Platinum ..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Its not fake, but its also not quite Platinum as you would vision it, it was a Taiwan made Platinum ( when Platinum had a subsidiary there ) and was a mid low end range model tailored to then local market and was only made available there. AFAIK , the pen was made OEM by others as the brand never ever establish real manufacturing facilities there post war ( unlike Pilot and Sailor which did ) but none the less it is a Platinum ..

Thank you for the beautiful information ... were their nibs made by platinum ?

Edited by mns68
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The nib in the photo has the Platinum P imprint and the word Germany,
so that nib was made for Platinum, not by Platinum.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you for the beautiful information ... were their nibs made by platinum ?

 

I am not sure , some of their other cheaper model had their nib OEM local, some are sourced both from other source and Platinum's own

Edited by Mech-for-i
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't think Platinum has ever had nibs made in Germany.

No Platinum pen of which I am aware looks like this model. As Platinum sold basically the same domestic models overseas it is doubtful this is a product of any Platinum factory.

 

Might be Chinese as it has the 'feel' or 'look' about it.

stan

Formerly Ryojusen Pens
The oldest and largest buyer and seller of vintage Japanese pens in America.


Member: Pen Collectors of America & Fuente, THE Japanese Pen Collectors Club

Link to comment
Share on other sites

well Parker, Pilot, Sailor, Platinum, and even Bic and Cross do the same , in many Asian countries since the 50's, establish local sub ; brand and market local specific products, many are either OEM or manufactured locally by their own concern , those none the less still a genuine product from the brand , just not what people tend to think of it these days, in fact this kind of business arrangement is nothing new, Parker used to be US based, and then there is Canadian, UK, France, similar with Wateman, and plenty others ... there is genuine Sailor fountain pens clearly marked Sailor Taiwan on the nib, and even today there is specific local only models say the Platinum PQ-200 , or Pilot 17G which is both China ( and India ) local only models ; as for that nib, I believe its likely OEM from local manufacturing ,the only thing Platinum specified is adding that P emblem .. which can easily explain why it is how it is

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just to nudge this back toward the implied direction of the original post, from the interesting and informative historical side notes...

 

There are plenty of nice budget priced vintage Platinum pens coming out of Japan via Ebay these days, if you can spend over $50US, it's not hard to find a ready to write or sometimes even NOS short/long (or other 70s-80s pen) with a 14k or even 18k nib. If you want project pens (often just need a good clean-up, or minor nib tuning), those can be had for under $20US with a little patience.

 

P.S. I have an unbranded Chinese pen that is almost identical to this one, it's a decent enough basic pen, but the shell inlay is nothing like a high-end Japanese abalone and laquer finish, it's also very heavy and lacks the subtle writing and haptic qualities of a well made Japanese pen from any of the major makers. It was also $25, not $50!

Edited by awa54

David-

 

So many restoration projects...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

There are plenty of nice budget priced vintage Platinum pens coming out of Japan via Ebay these days, if you can spend over $50US, it's not hard to find a ready to write or sometimes even NOS short/long (or other 70s-80s pen) with a 14k or even 18k nib.

I bought a perfectly functional "vintage" Platinum pocket pen with an 18K gold nib on eBay recently, for the princely sum of US$17 (item's final price with no other bidders) and US$5 for shipping to Australia. It writes without any problem after I inserted a "modern" Platinum ink cartridge into it. I must therefore conclude that, "if you can spend over $50US" is a gross overestimate of the minimum spend requirement.

I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present, when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable; and link to third-party content where I can, when I make a claim or refute a statement of fact in a thread. If there is something you can verify for yourself, I entreat you to do so, and judge for yourself what is right, correct for valid. I may be wrong, and my position or say-so is no more authoritative and carries no more weight than anyone else's here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It is an "easy" decision: if you like the pen, buy it, there is only one remaining.

If the pen has good quality, you underpaid it.

If the pen has bad quality, you overpaid it.

 

Nobody who doesn't have this pen, can answer the question regarding quality.

 

I have a Sailor made in Taiwan which is not different from a similar Sailor made in Japan. However, a cheaper price target has to come along with a cost reduction during the production process. Where they did it, I don't think you will ever know.

 

No risk, no fun!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I bought a perfectly functional "vintage" Platinum pocket pen with an 18K gold nib on eBay recently, for the princely sum of US$17 (item's final price with no other bidders) and US$5 for shipping to Australia. It writes without any problem after I inserted a "modern" Platinum ink cartridge into it. I must therefore conclude that, "if you can spend over $50US" is a gross overestimate of the minimum spend requirement.

 

 

My intent was to be realistic about the potential for finding a pen which is verifiably "ready to write", not to tease somone with the hope of a great deal... I too have gotten great deals, some for less than $10US, but in that price range the potential to buy into a "project pen" is much greater and without knowing the OP's confidence level with minor to moderate restoration I didn't want to suggest a scenario where disappointment was likely.

David-

 

So many restoration projects...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share



  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      38108
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      31130
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. jar
      jar
      26101
    5. wimg
      wimg
      25602
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • A Smug Dill
      @Texas42 Thank you. I myself have recently had the experience of cleaning out a Wing Sung 699, in which the iron-gall ink has been sitting for six months. No damage to the metal piston rod (whereas, in a Wing Sung 3013 vacuum-filler, it would have been corroded, turned green, and contaminated the ink in mere weeks), but there was a ring of colour at the far end of the barrel that wouldn't budge, and I found it impossible to unscrew the filling mechanism to clean the interior wall of the ink rese
    • Texas42
      Dang. You are a great friend!   One comment as a relative newcomer would be within the cleaning section: issues/differences in cleaning vacuum filler, piston filler in addition to cartridge/converter. I just cleaned out my Pilot 823 and while it wasn't particularly difficult I was a little paranoid about the drops of water that I could not get out. Perhaps this is something you are already including.   Anyway, great project and very thoughtful of you. I know it's a project fo
    • Splat
      Ah Ruaidhri ya wee heid banger, you do indeed have an Irishman’s way wid dose words now. I’ll be from outer Aberdeenshire up in the blizzard riven braes of the Grampians.  Amateur medicine and surgery is it? Well what noble aspirations you do possess, we need to encourage such noble experimentations.  I pondered on leaving my own battered shell to science, but, until I read your pearls of wisdom and lament, I had comedown on the side of leaving my body to Findus frozen foods.  However, your rema
    • austollie
      Hi Smug Dill,   Nice project.  If it were me, I'd cover stuff like: - nib types available, i.e. styles, materials (SS vs gold), flex vs nails; - filling systems (I love the "thingie" comment) and how once can use them in practice (e.g. fill cartridges with a syringe); - pen body materials and their consequences (pen not balanced of too heavy and big for the hand); - and, whilst you've made it clear that you do not like vintage pens, a discussion of these beyond "I d
    • A Smug Dill
      Thanks for your input! Yes, not putting wood in the list of body materials warranting a mention was an oversight. I love pens with wooden bodies, but my main concern, or chagrin, is that I have not come across a wooden-bodied pen with a wooden cap that seals well. Actually, there is one, but it isn't really wood per se: the Pilot Custom Kaede's maple body is resin impregnated. All other wooden pens I have can dry out while capped and undisturbed; that includes several Platinum #3776 models.
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. Affomymef
      Affomymef
      (62 years old)
    2. andysm
      andysm
      (52 years old)
    3. ArPharazon
      ArPharazon
      (58 years old)
    4. BobMorane
      BobMorane
      (68 years old)
    5. CZOLG
      CZOLG
      (42 years old)





×
×
  • Create New...