Rotring600user Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 New Moonman pen. Thoughts? Available on eBay for $42-ish (i could find only 1 listing though..), appears to use a Schmidt nib. Pictures taken from Reddit and Instagram. Thanks, (or) Hope that helped,Rotring600user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyCynic Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 It is a Schmidt nib. It's apparently a bit longer than the M2, so that's attractive for me. Some people on Reddit compared its styling to the new Estie, but the only similarities seem to be that it's a generally tapered-end C/C pen in dark acrylic, and the way the clip attaches. My personal opinion is that it's tempting as a more professional take on what PenBBS are doing, right now, but the price is a little bit rich for me right now. In a year I'll be regretting not getting one, though. (There are more sellers on eBay depending on country. I always search ebay.com rather than my local ebay.co.uk because of this. There are also a few outlets on AliExpress.) Also, the connector to the cartridge/converter appears to be metal, so may not be able to be eye-droppered. That seems an odd choice given the Moonman heritage so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mech-for-i Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) Its celluloid nitrate , not acrylic, Moonman had another similar model set to launch simultaneously in acrylic called S1 with slight cosmetic difference ( there is a thin cap ring ), though I would likely not going to buy one of these as I find PenBBS' bigger size a more comfortable one for me and the 309 just the right one. But let's see how this come about in real use Edited October 7, 2018 by Mech-for-i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyCynic Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Its celluloid nitrate , not acrylic, Moonman had another similar model set to launch simultaneously in acrylic called M1 with slight cosmetic difference ( there is a tin cap ring ), though I would likely not going to buy one of these as I find PenBBS' bigger size a more comfortable one for me and the 309 just the right one. But let's see how this come about in real use That's great information, thanks for that. All the ads I've seen have stated acrylic, but celluloid would explain their great photos. I'm not sure about the length, though. While the Moonman S1 lists as the same length as the M2s, the M100 is listed at 145mm, which is within 1 or 2mm of what my PenBBS 309s measure (capped). If they turn out to be the same size as the M2, I won't bother with the regret I mentioned next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasKaltblut Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I have an irrational hope that this will bring down the price of the LIY Mitu which it resembles, and the Shisan - both of which are wildly overpriced in my opinion. Especially the Shisan - $87? for a plain rod? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penzel_washinkton Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Thank goodness no silver trims, or else it would be in my wishlist (along with the PenBBS vacuum filler). Funnily enough, for all the flack the new Esties has, the blue one looks eerily similar to the Estie models.If not, it holds some semblance to the newly released gold trimmed version of the PenBBS 308 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aysedasi Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I look at these and think, 'Yes, quite nice' and then I search for one with what I would consider a sensible nib..... Anything other than Fine or EF. Nope. Is the word 'broad' an expletive in China and thereabouts? http://www.aysedasi.co.uk She turned me into a newt....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasKaltblut Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Thank goodness no silver trims, or else it would be in my wishlist (along with the PenBBS vacuum filler). Funnily enough, for all the flack the new Esties has, the blue one looks eerily similar to the Estie models.If not, it holds some semblance to the newly released gold trimmed version of the PenBBS 308 Why is everyone comparing it to the new Estie when It is an obvious attempt to go after the LIY Mitu, also with a Schmidt nib, but for a higher price? I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taike Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Both the M100 and the S1 have gone live on taobao. Check out my assembled FP reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasKaltblut Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Both the M100 and the S1 have gone live on taobao.The S1 is also on Ebay now....but I'm not inspired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mech-for-i Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) I look at these and think, 'Yes, quite nice' and then I search for one with what I would consider a sensible nib..... Anything other than Fine or EF. Nope. Is the word 'broad' an expletive in China and thereabouts? you try to write Chinese on a typical notepad with a broad or even medium nib and you will know why ... and for their home market .. anyone needing to write in more expressive manner instead goes for the Calligraphy nib. In sort .. Medium is marginally useful, and anything wider is pretty much not needed Hmm ... the S1 is in profile more akin to the LIY Mitu , where the M100 is fatter and more a bulged / tapered profile than a straight rod with pointy end. But in the end I find them rather lacking ... but then these days many boutique pens are like that, no more than yet another pen barrel + cap + section to hold a somewhat generic Scmidt / Jowo / Bock unit ... I do not see much in the styling or industrial design, and the Mfr do not give us something of their own. Instead I think I would be more inclined to get the PenBBS or the Delike / Moonman with their own nib / nib units and the price had been hiked to a bracket where I can gone off and get something else more interesting. Edited October 7, 2018 by Mech-for-i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasKaltblut Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) A little off topic but some sellers also just posted this hideous mashup of a Moonman M2 and a Pilot Plumix on Ebay. The pictures don't even seem to show the same pen cap...and they are calling it a Moonman M2. Edited October 7, 2018 by DasKaltblut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aysedasi Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Mmmm, hideous is a good expression for that...... http://www.aysedasi.co.uk She turned me into a newt....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gistar Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 The M100 and less the S1 look quite nice and are tempting. However they are priced too high if they only come with an EF nib, at least for those that prefer wider pens like me. On a pen half the price I can accept it and include the cost of an aftermarket nib. But not now and it is not an excuse that Chinese writing requires the finer nibs. Most of the sellers in Ebay sell to western customers. Schmidt nibs come in all sizes. Even the Wancai was being sold with a stub nib as an extra. Gistar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotring600user Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) The M100 and less the S1 look quite nice and are tempting. However they are priced too high if they only come with an EF nib, at least for those that prefer wider pens like me. On a pen half the price I can accept it and include the cost of an aftermarket nib. But not now and it is not an excuse that Chinese writing requires the finer nibs. Most of the sellers in Ebay sell to western customers. Schmidt nibs come in all sizes. Even the Wancai was being sold with a stub nib as an extra.Most of the sellers in eBay purchase Chinese pens, which are made for the domestic Chinese market, which don't use those nibs. The Wancai was sold with a stub nib extra, but that was only one seller (office_supplies_pen aka Bobby), which I'm pretty sure he himself decided to include the stub nib as an extra, not the manufacturer. Edited October 7, 2018 by Rotring600user Thanks, (or) Hope that helped,Rotring600user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penzel_washinkton Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 A little off topic but some sellers also just posted this hideous mashup of a Moonman M2 and a Pilot Plumix on Ebay. The pictures don't even seem to show the same pen cap...and they are calling it a Moonman M2. Is that really a Moonman though? Strange they would totally redesign an already popular type with the exact same name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasKaltblut Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Is that really a Moonman though? Strange they would totally redesign an already popular type with the exact same nameI don't know. That's what the seller is calling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penzel_washinkton Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Seeing the eyedropper based filling system, I guess it is some sort of variant of Moonman M2.Bizarre decision though in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mech-for-i Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Well AFAIK, Moonman had no such model, this is likely an online retail scam taking advantage of a wider consumer population who might not have the knowledge and even worse, not caring to do their research properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aysedasi Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Most of the sellers in eBay purchase Chinese pens, which are made for the domestic Chinese market, which don't use those nibs. The Wancai was sold with a stub nib extra, but that was only one seller (office_supplies_pen aka Bobby), which I'm pretty sure he himself decided to include the stub nib as an extra, not the manufacturer. Yes, I've ordered one from him - praise the Lord for someone with a bit of imagination....... http://www.aysedasi.co.uk She turned me into a newt....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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