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First of all greetings to all I am new at The fountain pen network and in the magnificent world of fountain pens at the moment I only have one lamy logo and within a month I will get a 2000 lamy.

I am a young man of 20 years old who since childhood my mother taught me the art of writing. I use the palmer method to write and I love it and more when I use stub nibs because of the effect of line variation.
And I've had some curiosity about trying out new calligraphy styles like Spencerian or Copperplate and I really do not know which one to start with first and which one is going to make it easier with Palmer's bases.
and with respect to the tools that are used I have never used flexible nibs I have only used round and stub, I do not really know how hard a flex is.
So what do you recommend? Is it worth trying or should I continue with palmer?
I also leave some samples of my handwriting
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Hello and welcome to FPN. :W2FPN:

 

I recommend you check out the individual forums for handwriting under the Creative Expressions forum heading.

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Welcome home. Pull up a stump and set a spell. I use the Oriental Calligraphy System; my handwriting is inscrutable.

 

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Hello and welcome to FPN, from Cape Town, South Africa.

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Hello from HK.

 

For calligraphy, I personally like flex nib, yet for daily use, I prefer stub, as flex nib skips or rails more easily when writing fast.

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If you want to get into flex nibs without breaking something expensive or getting stuck with a pen you dislike, dip pens are an inexpensive way to explore. Just keep in mind that "spencerian" nibs are ultra-sharp and fragile, art nibs are more forgiving to start with.

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Thank you very much everyone for your warm welcome to FPN :) , for the information that you provided me with those types of calligraphy are for slow writing due to flex nib so I think I would use it as a hobby or for letter titles or essays.

I am currently studying at the university and then I take quick notes and for that my Palmer variant has been useful for me.
I say variant because I recently read some old books about muscle writing and writing with my arm instead of my fingers and in school they never taught me that principle of Palmer handwriting. :huh:
Maybe next summer, since I go back to school on Monday and they say the semester will be harder, I hope I have the opportunity to practice and improve my current handwriting and try new styles.
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If you want to get into flex nibs without breaking something expensive or getting stuck with a pen you dislike, dip pens are an inexpensive way to explore. Just keep in mind that "spencerian" nibs are ultra-sharp and fragile, art nibs are more forgiving to start with.

Thank you for sharing your experience, if I get to encourage you to practice one of those styles I will try a dip pen since I have no experience using flex nibs and the idea of breaking an expensive nib flex :( :crybaby:

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those types of calligraphy are for slow writing due to flex nib so I think I would use it as a hobby or for letter titles or essays.

If you're more interested in italic that's fair, but flex pens aren't slow. Cursive handwriting was invented as a rapid way to write with flex pens!

 

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If you follow the pen in your mind, you'll notice that every thick line is a downstroke, when a flex pen would accent naturally.

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If you're more interested in italic that's fair, but flex pens aren't slow. Cursive handwriting was invented as a rapid way to write with flex pens!

 

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(Image by AAAndrew)

 

If you follow the pen in your mind, you'll notice that every thick line is a downstroke, when a flex pen would accent naturally.

 

I did not know that I thought it was a slower type of writing and more thinking.
I think the complicated part at the beginning would be to have a good synchronization in the handwriting lines, accents normal pressure and descending with some pressure and I imagine that with a good time practicing could be fast as you say. I feel that if I write slowly at the beginning XD I'm used to not using pressure in my handwriting I usually use a medium speed to fast depending on the situation with smooth fountain pens nibs, I think it would be a matter of getting used to the flex.
And that dip pens you recommend me (brands or types) to start experimenting, Previously you mentioned some that are scratchy and fragile

 

And above all, thanks for your feedback here at FPN, they are all very attentive and friendly people
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If you want to get into flex nibs without breaking something expensive or getting stuck with a pen you dislike, dip pens are an inexpensive way to explore. Just keep in mind that "spencerian" nibs are ultra-sharp and fragile, art nibs are more forgiving to start with.

 

Excuse my ignorance but what are the art nibs?

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I think the complicated part at the beginning would be to have a good synchronization in the handwriting lines, accents normal pressure and descending with some pressure

It's the same skill as using a pencil without breaking it (too hard down) or tearing paper(too hard up) while still leaving marks on the page. It was harder for me to re-learn cursive.

 

And that dip pens you recommend me (brands or types) to start experimenting, Previously you mentioned some that are scratchy and fragile

I'm no expert, but these are favorite nibs, from soft to slightly less soft:

 

-Brause Rose. Extremely flexible with next to no pressure. Just a bit scratchy.

-Hunt #99. Very flexible and needs next to no pressure, but rather scratchy and fragile.

-Hiro #41. Moderate amount of flex with a little pressure. Very durable, very smooth-writing, very easy to use! My favorite. Runs out of ink fast though.

 

Excuse my ignorance but what are the art nibs?

Dip pen nibs for crosshatching, cartooning, or lettering instead of calligraphy. They're usually smoother-writing than calligraphy nibs. The Hunt #99 is a flexible drawing nib, the #512 is a rigid drawing nib. The Hiro #41 is called a calligraphy nib, but it's a very unusual calligraphy nib - blunter, less flexible and very smooth writing.

 

The Hunt #103 is a calligraphy nib so fine it requires special paper.

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As soon as the ink is dry, I have letters to post, but in the meantime, Corona688 - you are an enabler - I totally respect that! Now, where do I find this Hiro #41 and does it have to be a dip nib? Can I add it to a fountain pen?

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