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Hi all, this small safety model MB Rouge et Noir with what seems to be a gold body emerged from my late father-in-law's belongings (pics below). It's a very short pen (10 cm/4 in with cap on) and needs a bit of work since the nib in/out mechanism is a bit hard to operate.

I'm trying to find out what year this model might be from and its potential market value.

If anybody would provide more information, I'd be very grateful.

Many thanks.

 

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penparadise

Hi Canadian NoName,

 

Some more pictures might help!

What number is on the turning knob, what number on the nib? Is there any hallmark on the pen not on the clip? What is engraved on the cap lip?

The twist action mechanism might be stuck because of dried ink.

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Axel

Montblanc collector since 1968. Former owner of the Montblanc Boutique Bremen, retired 2007 and sold it.
Collecting Montblanc safeties, eyedroppers, lever fillers, button fillers, compressors - all from 1908 - 1929,
Montblanc ephemera and paraphernalia from 1908 to 1929,
Montblanc Meisterstück from 1924 up to the 50s,
Montblanc special and limited editions from 1991 to 2006
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Hi penparadise, the turning knob says '1M', nib has number '1' on it, 'ROUGE ET NOIR 18 K. R.' is on the cap lip, no hallmarks on the pen. More pictures herein.

 

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So you found your answers by yourself. It's a no.1 Safety with an Italian gold plated overlay from the end of the 1920th.

Axel

Montblanc collector since 1968. Former owner of the Montblanc Boutique Bremen, retired 2007 and sold it.
Collecting Montblanc safeties, eyedroppers, lever fillers, button fillers, compressors - all from 1908 - 1929,
Montblanc ephemera and paraphernalia from 1908 to 1929,
Montblanc Meisterstück from 1924 up to the 50s,
Montblanc special and limited editions from 1991 to 2006
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Thanks penparadise! Does that no. 1 mean anything? Pen size? What makes it Italian? The gold plated overlay? Any idea of the market value of this object?

 

Best wishes.

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