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Robert Oster Fire And Ice - Compact Review



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Ah my Favorite ink. But I don't use it because it smears right off with water :(. If only I could find a more water resistant version of the gorgeous shading base color (don't need the sheen). I just love its vibrancy and color so much. I've looked for but not found a color match in another ink yet.

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Yes, they are not the same at all. Yama-Dori is teal, I use it regularly, Fire and Ice is more "icey" blue. The sheen of Yama-Dori is also not so obvious as in Fire and Ice

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I got some of this from a member here on an ink exchange.

 

I was pleasantly surprised how well the ink performed. As you can tell, it shades well. I found that it flowed well behaved well on a lot of different papers.

 

If you like that color, this is a good ink to invest in a bottle of.

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It doesn't sheen as hard as people think, only when its laid down very wet. Sailor inks sheen much harder, it's a little more sheen-ey than pilot kon-peki, similar to private reserve naples blue, and similar to waterman obsession blue. It sheens, but only in pretty wet nibs.

 

Now if you want a blue (not a cyan like this) that sheens, organics studio Ralph Waldo Emerson is so stupid bonkers sheentastic that it sheens on everything short of paper towel (and that's not hyperbole)

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I wonder how this compares to Sailor Yama-Dori

 

Yama Dori is very different. It's darker and more teal and more "dirty". It does not have the same clean color intensity and saturation. Fire and Ice is an intense turquoise-blue. Yama-Dori looks "Murky" and faded in comparison. Fire and Ice has similar saturation and intensity to Diamine's Asa Blue, if you've tried that, but different color. I have a bottle of Yama Dori that I was really looking forward to but ended up just opening up to test, promptly closing, and putting in storage to probably never be used again :(

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Yama Dori is very different. It's darker and more teal and more "dirty". It does not have the same clean color intensity and saturation. Fire and Ice is an intense turquoise-blue. Yama-Dori looks "Murky" and faded in comparison. Fire and Ice has similar saturation and intensity to Diamine's Asa Blue, if you've tried that, but different color. I have a bottle of Yama Dori that I was really looking forward to but ended up just opening up to test, promptly closing, and putting in storage to probably never be used again :(

I love blues and greens, but I think teals are ugly. I agree Yama-dori is disapointing, I was fearing this was the same, more teal, less blue. :(

 

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It doesn't sheen as hard as people think, only when its laid down very wet.

I agree. Based on a lot of photos and reviews I bought a bottle today. I'm glad I did, I like it a lot. I've got a few turquoise inks from other brands, but something about their colour makes them somewhat less appealing for everyday use, at least for me. Fire & Ice is darker and I love the colour. Ditto the shading, which is great. It flows nicely, lubricates well and is a joy to write with. Prices at 16 euros for 50 mL it's not an inexpensive ink, so I won't use it for all-day, every-day purposes. The only downside so far is its sheening. I was hoping for that wonderful reddish tint. It's there, it outlines most lettes, but it's so narrow and subtle that you basically need a loupe to see it. By contrast, the underside of the feed of the pen is coloured deep red! I used a 1.1 mm stub nib with a normal wetness, i.e. not dry but not a firehose either. When I squeezed a drop out of the pen, the red appeared around the edges.

 

Overall it's a quality ink that I really enjoy. Lovely shading. It looks complex and makes me want to write more. I also like that it does this without 'gimmicks' like adding gold flakes - not that there's anything wrong with that, but I personally prefer a well-chosen mixture of dyes and solvents without suspended particles and such. I only wish it would sheen more.

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Fire and Ice sheen becomes a lot more prominent if you let the ink concentrate in a pen for a while. It goes from barely any sheen to high amounts of sheen, almost overwhelming, when some water evaporates from the ink reservoir.

 

To an earlier comment above, I have Walden Pond “Blue” as well, and while it is an insane sheen-monster, it’s really green. It’s a teal on the green side and is far more green and also darker than Fire & Ice. It’s also more green, darker, and more concentrated than Yama Dori. I think calling it “green” would have been more appropriate, as it’s more green than blue.

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