Jump to content

Robert Oster Fire And Ice - Compact Review


Jan2016

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 17
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Jan2016

    8

  • titevm

    3

  • Intensity

    3

  • TheDutchGuy

    1

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

Ah my Favorite ink. But I don't use it because it smears right off with water :(. If only I could find a more water resistant version of the gorgeous shading base color (don't need the sheen). I just love its vibrancy and color so much. I've looked for but not found a color match in another ink yet.

Edited by Intensity

“I admit it, I'm surprised that fountain pens are a hobby. ... it's a bit like stumbling into a fork convention - when you've used a fork all your life.” 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes, they are not the same at all. Yama-Dori is teal, I use it regularly, Fire and Ice is more "icey" blue. The sheen of Yama-Dori is also not so obvious as in Fire and Ice

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I got some of this from a member here on an ink exchange.

 

I was pleasantly surprised how well the ink performed. As you can tell, it shades well. I found that it flowed well behaved well on a lot of different papers.

 

If you like that color, this is a good ink to invest in a bottle of.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It doesn't sheen as hard as people think, only when its laid down very wet. Sailor inks sheen much harder, it's a little more sheen-ey than pilot kon-peki, similar to private reserve naples blue, and similar to waterman obsession blue. It sheens, but only in pretty wet nibs.

 

Now if you want a blue (not a cyan like this) that sheens, organics studio Ralph Waldo Emerson is so stupid bonkers sheentastic that it sheens on everything short of paper towel (and that's not hyperbole)

Selling a boatload of restored, fairly rare, vintage Japanese gold nib pens, click here to see (more added as I finish restoring them)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I wonder how this compares to Sailor Yama-Dori

 

Yama Dori is very different. It's darker and more teal and more "dirty". It does not have the same clean color intensity and saturation. Fire and Ice is an intense turquoise-blue. Yama-Dori looks "Murky" and faded in comparison. Fire and Ice has similar saturation and intensity to Diamine's Asa Blue, if you've tried that, but different color. I have a bottle of Yama Dori that I was really looking forward to but ended up just opening up to test, promptly closing, and putting in storage to probably never be used again :(

“I admit it, I'm surprised that fountain pens are a hobby. ... it's a bit like stumbling into a fork convention - when you've used a fork all your life.” 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

Yama Dori is very different. It's darker and more teal and more "dirty". It does not have the same clean color intensity and saturation. Fire and Ice is an intense turquoise-blue. Yama-Dori looks "Murky" and faded in comparison. Fire and Ice has similar saturation and intensity to Diamine's Asa Blue, if you've tried that, but different color. I have a bottle of Yama Dori that I was really looking forward to but ended up just opening up to test, promptly closing, and putting in storage to probably never be used again :(

I love blues and greens, but I think teals are ugly. I agree Yama-dori is disapointing, I was fearing this was the same, more teal, less blue. :(

 

Thanks :D

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

It doesn't sheen as hard as people think, only when its laid down very wet.

I agree. Based on a lot of photos and reviews I bought a bottle today. I'm glad I did, I like it a lot. I've got a few turquoise inks from other brands, but something about their colour makes them somewhat less appealing for everyday use, at least for me. Fire & Ice is darker and I love the colour. Ditto the shading, which is great. It flows nicely, lubricates well and is a joy to write with. Prices at 16 euros for 50 mL it's not an inexpensive ink, so I won't use it for all-day, every-day purposes. The only downside so far is its sheening. I was hoping for that wonderful reddish tint. It's there, it outlines most lettes, but it's so narrow and subtle that you basically need a loupe to see it. By contrast, the underside of the feed of the pen is coloured deep red! I used a 1.1 mm stub nib with a normal wetness, i.e. not dry but not a firehose either. When I squeezed a drop out of the pen, the red appeared around the edges.

 

Overall it's a quality ink that I really enjoy. Lovely shading. It looks complex and makes me want to write more. I also like that it does this without 'gimmicks' like adding gold flakes - not that there's anything wrong with that, but I personally prefer a well-chosen mixture of dyes and solvents without suspended particles and such. I only wish it would sheen more.

post-141326-0-70425800-1520006499_thumb.jpeg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Fire and Ice sheen becomes a lot more prominent if you let the ink concentrate in a pen for a while. It goes from barely any sheen to high amounts of sheen, almost overwhelming, when some water evaporates from the ink reservoir.

 

To an earlier comment above, I have Walden Pond “Blue” as well, and while it is an insane sheen-monster, it’s really green. It’s a teal on the green side and is far more green and also darker than Fire & Ice. It’s also more green, darker, and more concentrated than Yama Dori. I think calling it “green” would have been more appropriate, as it’s more green than blue.

“I admit it, I'm surprised that fountain pens are a hobby. ... it's a bit like stumbling into a fork convention - when you've used a fork all your life.” 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      43844
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      33441
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. inkstainedruth
      inkstainedruth
      26451
    5. jar
      jar
      26101
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files






×
×
  • Create New...