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Let me sum up the opinions in this thread for those needing advice:

 

Pilot is the wettest and the dryest

Sailor is the wettest and the dryest

Platinum is the wettest and the dryest

 

Pilot is the smoothest and the scratchiest

Sailor is the smoothest and the scratchiest

Platinum is the smoothest and the scratchiest

 

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Let me sum up the opinions in this thread for those needing advice:

 

Pilot is the wettest and the dryest

Sailor is the wettest and the dryest

Platinum is the wettest and the dryest

 

Pilot is the smoothest and the scratchiest

Sailor is the smoothest and the scratchiest

Platinum is the smoothest and the scratchiest

 

:D

 

I decided not to reply to this topic a while ago because by the time I read it I didn't think I had anything new to add other than opinion, which as is so concisely put here; wouldn't add weight to an argument or new ideas.

There's a well known saying about this; it goes something... opinions are like left feet, everyone has one.

 

It's a phrase I never use because it seems obvious but the best thing anyone could take from this thread is:

 

Your mileage may vary.

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So perhaps I'm a bit too eager but I'm looking for a good workhorse that's classy. I've narrowed it to the Pilot Custom 74, the Platinum 3776 Century and the Sailor 1911s. I've read the 3776 is fussy...any idea what to pick?

I only have the 3776 so thats what I am goint to tell you on. It is not fussy but the construction does feel a bit brittleish. Its nib is perfect for me and the balance is great but the pen could be a bit more thicker for me. You can read my review of it if you want. But for some general points, here goes:

 

-The Pilot has the largest ink capacity. The con-70 that comes with it is regarded as one of the best. The platinum and sailor convertors have minuscle ink capacity.

-The price is best on a Platinum when you buy from Japan. The Sailor is still more expensive than the other two even when from Japan. For the Pilot, you get low prices for soilid finishes like black and blue. But for demonstrators, you have to pay extra.

 

Hope you find this helpful and happy buying!

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hi

 

i have the tree pens, and my favorite by far is the platimun 3776, all are very nice and good wrigters but the 3776 is super smooth, very atractive( i have the burgundy) and fit perfectly in my hand, i have big hands.

 

i don like F nibs so i have my 3776 in B nib and wrigth superb

 

thats my 02. cents.

 

pace

Saludos desde Mexico, "el respeto al derecho ajeno es la paz entre los hombres"

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I wish to respectfully disagree with Mew. My absolute best nibs are Nakaya. The smoothest of writers, the most fun to draw with. This might be because I've ordered almost all of my Nakayas from John Mottishaw and they have had the benefit of being tweaked by his team of nibmeisters.

Yes, I did not order from John Mottishaw. I don't see the point in paying import taxes on something that was made in Japan. Both of my Nakaya's were bought from aestheticbay while visiting Singapore. Ordered beforehand and picked up in person. Both the nibs were dry, scratchy and unpleasant to use. Safe to say that I will not be touching another 3776 or it's derivative pens anytime soon. Will try the izumo though.

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I don't know how anyone can find the modern Platinum 3776 century in red bourgogne or chartres blue 'smooth' at all, especially Medium and finer nibs. No matter how I balance the pen or write at different angles, it is nowhere near smooth amd feels very unfinished.

 

Ink flow, on the other hand, is superb, but not quite enough to redeem the entire writing experience. What I bought, the Platinum Med and Broad are mistakes that i will not make again unless they improve on the tip polishing.

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I had EF and F on my Nakaya's, sold both. Those nibs are unpleasant to use, at least the finer ones. That's fine with 3776, it's not an expensive pen, and I can tinker with it a bit, but unacceptable with Nakaya.

I have a simply policy: No negotiations regarding quality. If a pen is sub-standard in any way, it is either going to back to the seller for a refund or it will be sold.

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I had EF and F on my Nakaya's, sold both. Those nibs are unpleasant to use, at least the finer ones. That's fine with 3776, it's not an expensive pen, and I can tinker with it a bit, but unacceptable with Nakaya.

I have a simply policy: No negotiations regarding quality. If a pen is sub-standard in any way, it is either going to back to the seller for a refund or it will be sold.

Perhaps you're confusing quality with smoothness?

You may be better off with a German nib where you will be able to do just that.

 

 

 

 

 

Does Platinum use the same feed-nib system in Nakaya?

Yes. They're essentially the same.

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Perhaps you're confusing quality with smoothness?

You may be better off with a German nib where you will be able to do just that.

I have multiple Namiki's and Pilot's, and all of them are very smooth, as smooth and my German nibs (5 Pelikans - all M80x and M100x).

Fine line between feedback and scratchiness, and platinum F's and EF's generally tend to cross it to the scratchiness side.

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I have multiple Namiki's and Pilot's, and all of them are very smooth, as smooth and my German nibs (5 Pelikans - all M80x and M100x).

Fine line between feedback and scratchiness, and platinum F's and EF's generally tend to cross it to the scratchiness side.

I've never owned any Pilot that has been smooth, from SEF/EF through to medium and FA. Every single one has feedback.

I'm not sure, the Platinums are generally very hard, and this together with the feedback is maybe creating the sensation of it being scratchy. Conversely, Pilot needs tend to be a softer.

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I don't know how anyone can find the modern Platinum 3776 century in red bourgogne or chartres blue 'smooth' at all, especially Medium and finer nibs. No matter how I balance the pen or write at different angles, it is nowhere near smooth amd feels very unfinished.

 

Ink flow, on the other hand, is superb, but not quite enough to redeem the entire writing experience. What I bought, the Platinum Med and Broad are mistakes that i will not make again unless they improve on the tip polishing.

I have both and find both smooth as well as may other Platinum #3776 pens.

 

 

 

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Just summed up the courage to do so and Ive bought 2 pens:
A Sailor 1911 Large Black with rhodium trims Medium and a Sailor Life Time Rouge Fine, both on Ebay auctions.

 

Waiting anxiously for both of them.

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