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According to some other threads, the Sailor small 14k nibs are mostly interchangeable, thus includes this list of models?

 

1. Sapporo aka Pro Gear Slim

2. Pro Gear Mini

3. 1911M aka Profit Standard

4. Promenade?

 

I ask because I broke a nib—a very small part of the tip snapped off—but the nib is threaded so I can simply swap in another one, so I would like to make sure I buy the right one.

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I can confirm that all 5 pieces that make up the section (nib, feed, housing, the section's body shell, and the barrel adapter) are each individually interchangeable between the 1911M "Profit Standard" and the Pro Gear Slim.

 

You can even swap a Pro Gear Slim's nib-feed-housing unit with a Procolor 500's or a Young Profit's* nib-feed-housing unit.

 

I'd be interested to know how (or whether) the Promenade fits into that picture.

 

 

* N.B. While I have successfully put a Young Profit's nib-feed-housing unit into both a Pro Gear Slim and a Procolor 500, I've not yet attempted to put a Pro Gear Slim's nib-feed-housing unit into a Young Profit. (I don't currently own a Young Profit demonstrator and I'm not willing to blindly test whether the wider shoulders of the Pro Gear Slim's nib and feed might be damaged by the Young Profit's cap.)

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According to some other threads, the Sailor small 14k nibs are mostly interchangeable, thus includes this list of models?

 

1. Sapporo aka Pro Gear Slim

2. Pro Gear Mini

3. 1911M aka Profit Standard

4. Promenade?

 

I ask because I broke a nib—a very small part of the tip snapped off—but the nib is threaded so I can simply swap in another one, so I would like to make sure I buy the right one.

The first three I know for sure have the same smaller 14K nib using same feed.

The nib & feed are press fit, not threaded. The sections are threaded & do indeed interchange with each other in pens # 1, 2 & 3.

I am using a couple of Sapporo nib/sections in similarly threaded Profit Standard Mozaiques.

BTW, :W2FPN:

*Sailor 1911S, Black/gold, 14k. 0.8 mm. stub(JM) *1911S blue "Colours", 14k. H-B "M" BLS (PB)

*2 Sailor 1911S Burgundy/gold: 14k. 0.6 mm. "round-nosed" CI (MM) & 14k. 1.1 mm. CI (JM)

*Sailor Pro-Gear Slim Spec. Ed. "Fire",14k. (factory) "H-B"

*Kaweco SPECIAL FP: 14k. "B",-0.6 mm BLS & 14k."M" 0.4 mm. BLS (PB)

*Kaweco Stainless Steel Lilliput, 14k. "M" -0.7 mm.BLS, (PB)

 

 

 

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The nib & feed are press fit, not threaded. The sections are threaded & do indeed interchange with each other in pens # 1, 2 & 3.

I am using a couple of Sapporo nib/sections in similarly threaded Profit Standard Mozaiques.

BTW, :W2FPN:

As you've correctly discerned, I am new. ^.~

 

Please, what is the difference?

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Does anyone know if the 21k Sailor 1911S is interchangeable with other pens? Perhaps it's the same as the 14k, no?

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"Ella343", I hope that the following explanation will make sense:

 

On cartridge/converter pens (the Sailors you listed), the section (the part you grip when you write) is usually screwed into the pen's barrel.

This section either has the nib & the feed pressed in (that is held by friction) or the nib & feed are part of a threaded nib-unit which is screwed into the section.

 

Are you still following? ;)

 

All Sailor pens use a pressed-in attachment of their nib & feed. Some pens, like the Pelikan piston fillers, have their nib & feed first pressed into a collared nib-unit, which is in turn screwed into the section of their pens.

 

A number of modern cartridge/converter pens also use screw in nib-units. Pens like Edison or Franklin-Christoph use threaded nib-units made by JoWo in Germany. These nib-units screw into the sections of these pens.

 

Check out There is a tremendous amount of good info compiled or Richard's site.

 

"Bluey", the Sailor 14K & 21K nibs/feeds are physically different in size & therefore do not interchange.

*Sailor 1911S, Black/gold, 14k. 0.8 mm. stub(JM) *1911S blue "Colours", 14k. H-B "M" BLS (PB)

*2 Sailor 1911S Burgundy/gold: 14k. 0.6 mm. "round-nosed" CI (MM) & 14k. 1.1 mm. CI (JM)

*Sailor Pro-Gear Slim Spec. Ed. "Fire",14k. (factory) "H-B"

*Kaweco SPECIAL FP: 14k. "B",-0.6 mm BLS & 14k."M" 0.4 mm. BLS (PB)

*Kaweco Stainless Steel Lilliput, 14k. "M" -0.7 mm.BLS, (PB)

 

 

 

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*Sailor 1911S, Black/gold, 14k. 0.8 mm. stub(JM) *1911S blue "Colours", 14k. H-B "M" BLS (PB)

*2 Sailor 1911S Burgundy/gold: 14k. 0.6 mm. "round-nosed" CI (MM) & 14k. 1.1 mm. CI (JM)

*Sailor Pro-Gear Slim Spec. Ed. "Fire",14k. (factory) "H-B"

*Kaweco SPECIAL FP: 14k. "B",-0.6 mm BLS & 14k."M" 0.4 mm. BLS (PB)

*Kaweco Stainless Steel Lilliput, 14k. "M" -0.7 mm.BLS, (PB)

 

 

 

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Enjoy the ride. :D

*Sailor 1911S, Black/gold, 14k. 0.8 mm. stub(JM) *1911S blue "Colours", 14k. H-B "M" BLS (PB)

*2 Sailor 1911S Burgundy/gold: 14k. 0.6 mm. "round-nosed" CI (MM) & 14k. 1.1 mm. CI (JM)

*Sailor Pro-Gear Slim Spec. Ed. "Fire",14k. (factory) "H-B"

*Kaweco SPECIAL FP: 14k. "B",-0.6 mm BLS & 14k."M" 0.4 mm. BLS (PB)

*Kaweco Stainless Steel Lilliput, 14k. "M" -0.7 mm.BLS, (PB)

 

 

 

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"Ella343", I hope that the following explanation will make sense:

 

On cartridge/converter pens (the Sailors you listed), the section (the part you grip when you write) is usually screwed into the pen's barrel.

This section either has the nib & the feed pressed in (that is held by friction) or the nib & feed are part of a threaded nib-unit which is screwed into the section.

 

Are you still following? ;)

 

All Sailor pens use a pressed-in attachment of their nib & feed. Some pens, like the Pelikan piston fillers, have their nib & feed first pressed into a collared nib-unit, which is in turn screwed into the section of their pens.

 

A number of modern cartridge/converter pens also use screw in nib-units. Pens like Edison or Franklin-Christoph use threaded nib-units made by JoWo in Germany. These nib-units screw into the sections of these pens.

 

Check out There is a tremendous amount of good info compiled or Richard's site.

 

"Bluey", the Sailor 14K & 21K nibs/feeds are physically different in size & therefore do not interchange.

 

 

Hi,

 

Some Sailor pens do use threaded nib units like the Professional Gear slim and slim mini (and many Profit) models. The nib units themselves are not unscrewed in the same way as the Pelikan ones are. You have to unscrew the metal threaded piece behind the grip section. The nib unit is keyed into the outer plastic grip section and many models have an O-ring to keep ink out of the space between the threaded nib unit and the outer grip section. Once you unscrew the metal threaded piece behind the grip section, you will be left with three pieces, the nib unit and O-ring, the outer grip section, and the threaded metal collar. You can take the nib unit apart into the nib, feed, and feeder case.

 

Dillon

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Hi,

 

Some Sailor pens do use threaded nib units like the Professional Gear slim and slim mini (and many Profit) models. The nib units themselves are not unscrewed in the same way as the Pelikan ones are. You have to unscrew the metal threaded piece behind the grip section. The nib unit is keyed into the outer plastic grip section and many models have an O-ring to keep ink out of the space between the threaded nib unit and the outer grip section. Once you unscrew the metal threaded piece behind the grip section, you will be left with three pieces, the nib unit and O-ring, the outer grip section, and the threaded metal collar. You can take the nib unit apart into the nib, feed, and feeder case.

 

Dillon

Hi Dillon,

 

I didn't know how to disassemble my Sailor's sections. I've had at least four Sapporos to date & I'm using two of these Sapporo nib/sections on my Profit Mozaiques. At least in theory, I can now imagine how these sections may be taken apart. I've always wondered how the metal threaded part of the section is attached to the resin grip.

Thank you for your clear, step-by-step instructions & setting me straight.

 

For the average pen user, particularly for one who doesn't like to tinker like myself, operating on a Sailor's section would be sheer folly. It would surely invite disaster,...one that could end in a costly repair or worse.

 

Though I am able to swap out a complete screw-in Pelican or Jowo nib unit, I'd let the pros deal with pen disassembly, pulling feeds from collars, tuning nibs & so forth. Any of my Sailors that need such adjustment will most likely dock at John Mottishaw's harbour. (no affiliation)

Then I have peace of mind.

 

I hope that the above does not derail the original post's question. It's good to learn new things. :) Thanks.

*Sailor 1911S, Black/gold, 14k. 0.8 mm. stub(JM) *1911S blue "Colours", 14k. H-B "M" BLS (PB)

*2 Sailor 1911S Burgundy/gold: 14k. 0.6 mm. "round-nosed" CI (MM) & 14k. 1.1 mm. CI (JM)

*Sailor Pro-Gear Slim Spec. Ed. "Fire",14k. (factory) "H-B"

*Kaweco SPECIAL FP: 14k. "B",-0.6 mm BLS & 14k."M" 0.4 mm. BLS (PB)

*Kaweco Stainless Steel Lilliput, 14k. "M" -0.7 mm.BLS, (PB)

 

 

 

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