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Can someone please help with approximate production date for the waterman 12S Safety pen?

 

http://s5.postimg.org/bumkyoxlz/W12_Sb.jpg

 

 

http://s5.postimg.org/wssqwrxgn/W12_Sc.jpg

 

 

http://s5.postimg.org/6lrk0tf6v/W12_Sd.jpg

 

Thank you in advance.

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Before 1917 (at this date the Waterman numbering system changed and the "1x" safeties became "4x").

 

Congratulations, this one seems in a perfect state !! :thumbup:

Thank you xof72000, any idea when they started making it first? Trying to narrow down the time period as much as possible.

<p style="text-align:center;">《Recite, and your Lord is the most Generous ⊙ Who taught by the pen ⊙</p><p style="text-align:center;">Taught man that which he knew not》 (96/3-5)<div style="text-align: center"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/qR3SFdy5/Snailmail3.png" alt="Snail Mail" class="center"></div>

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I actually have one that I would need to restore... how does one take it apart?

Please post a picture of your pen and I will comment on it ;)

 

This videos might help:

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AUt70GvP9DM

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BUefFTxv4T8

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SEQnuwuTLC4

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Thank you xof72000, any idea when they started making it first? Trying to narrow down the time period as much as possible.

 

Safeties don't appear in the 1902 catalog I have.

I have the year 1905 in mind, but can't remember where I get it from ...

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Safeties don't appear in the 1902 catalog I have.

I have the year 1905 in mind, but can't remember where I get it from ...

Thank you again, will have to start looking for some catalogs ;)

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Northstar, I checked Richard binder's site and he says production started in 1907 or 1908.

 

Mana, You should consider sending the pen to a repairman, Waterman Safety repairs or tricky. All the parts are hard rubber and fragile.

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Northstar, I checked Richard binder's site and he says production started in 1907 or 1908.

 

Mana, You should consider sending the pen to a repairman, Waterman Safety repairs or tricky. All the parts are hard rubber and fragile.

Thank you Uncle Red, the pen doesn't need any repairs, it's in perfect condition and writing extremely well, super flex super wet. I only had to polish the nib ;)

 

Best regards.

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