Jump to content
Classifieds is broken, please do not submit any new ads ×

Waterman 52 Nib And Feed Don't Like Eachother


hurricane_mike
 Share

Recommended Posts

Hello all! I'm a long time reader, first time writer on this forum. I figured that, with the vast pool of knowledge in here, this issue might have been addressed, but I cannot find it anywhere. so here goes.

I recently bought a waterman 52, "wood grain" pen. it is very flexible for what I was expecting. Not too much and not too little. but i'm noticing a serious issue with it. The nib and feed, when starting a line. begin parallel. "====" like this. But as I apply pressure to flex the tines a bit, the nib and feed are pressed away from each other. closer to a "<" sort of shape. This angle is exaggerated to be sure, but it is still extreme enough to cause the ink to travel away from the tines. which causes railroading for a line, then a completely cut from all ink stores.

This is all resolved with a simple tap on top of the nib to restore it to the parallel position.

So my question is this.

Is there any way that I can fix this in a way that would not involve shellac? I've heard a thin swab inside of the section will resolve most loose nib and feed issues, but I'm a little timid to perform this. And I don't necessarily want to send it to a professional restoration place just yet.

 

PS. the pictures that I added (if it works) are of the nib and feed.
The one pointing to the side shows a "before writing" position. nib and feed are nestled in close to each other.
the one pointing to the camera shows the nib and feed separated just enough to stop writing.

Hope the pictures and description help with getting ideas.

Thank you.

post-129512-0-19077200-1461295522_thumb.jpg

post-129512-0-92591200-1461295532_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 8
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Mauricio

    1

  • linearM

    1

  • Left FPN

    2

  • hurricane_mike

    5

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

I think the feed should be further forward or nib further back on the feed. That would keep the nib hole in contact with the feed and prevent what is happening.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It could also be that if your pen was refurbished and resaced that the nib might not have been inserted properly. Over time a nib seats itself into the section. If the nib isn't inserted in the same way the nib may not be inserted into the feed deeply enough and encourage a bit of play between nib and feed. Force's suggestion is also a good one and you can try both suggestions at the same time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Update: Thanks guys! I think it's working a lot better now. There are a lot fewer railroading times now. but it still tends to lift away from the feed when I try to push for a wider line. but now, I'm curious in regards to this "setting" idea. Should I continue to allow this to happen for some time instead of readjusting the nib and feed every few minutes in an effort to allow it all to self adjust with the feed to allow them to settle in the way I would like them to stay? The longer I let it sit, the more it seems to be able to write without having to do the almost habitual tap on the top of the nib.

Also, Can the feed for the Waterman 52 be almost heat set at a bit of an upward angle? I remember heat setting my noodler's ahab nib and that corrected a lot of problems, is the hard rubber similar in that respect to the ebonite in those pens?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I would go with setting it correctly both axially and in rotation rather than heat bend the feed. As stated by linearM, the feed and nib should be correctly oriented in the rotation direction. The inside of the grip is shaped to accept the parts in one position. Once that position is found and the nib/feed distance set the nib should function correctly.

 

This is a very good reference point for all pen work. Select Reference pages.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

So I aligned it in every way possible. I kept the feed forward and the nib back. and it started to work like a dream but the nib kept separating from the feed as I was writing. so, out of frustration, i gave up.

I heat modified the feed a little bit. and to my surprise, it went perfectly. I was terrified, but now it writes without any railroads.
Thank you guys for all the help.
I will definitely be using FPN for everything.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here are some pictures of the post- heat set feed. and how it flexes after.
more macro shots of course.

But this pen is now perfect to me. :) Thank you guys again.

post-129512-0-62219300-1461307229_thumb.jpg

post-129512-0-73155200-1461307245_thumb.jpg

post-129512-0-12546700-1461307254_thumb.jpg

post-129512-0-82546500-1461307282_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

There are several possibilities as the cause of the problem. Among them are:

  • Bad sac
  • Clogged feed
  • Improperly seating of the feed and nib
  • Incorrect and/or worn parts
  • Improperly filled pen
  • Improperly primed pen
  • Pen has been left inked and unused long enough for the ink to start drying inside the pen
  • Applying excessive pressure to what that nib was designed for, a common practice among folks who do not know much about flex nibs

Without significant knowledge and experience on each of the subjects above, it will be hard for anyone to properly diagnose and correct the cause of the problem.

Tu Amigo!

Mauricio Aguilar

 

www.VintagePen.net

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3525/4051556482_36f28f0902_m.jpg

E-Mail: VintagePen@att.net

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share



  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      37779
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      30897
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. jar
      jar
      26101
    5. wimg
      wimg
      25595
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Matthew TWP
      @Ruaidhri This was an absolutely wonderful bit of writing, and I hope that you're able to maintain the style once all of the medications are out of your system.  Take care and recover quickly!
    • Dr.X
      Very punny daniel
    • danielfalgerho
      These comments make me sad as I sympathise with Ruaidhri, having great difficulties in being taken seriously. Or being taken at all (no off-colors jokes, please!) In spite of overwhelming odds,  Ruaidhri -now I know how to spell it- made a courageous decision and stuck to it. I was diagnosed with a similar growth in a place I will not reveal. Oh, well, if you insist it was Mount Sinai Hospital. But I firmly intend to walk in Ruaidhri's footsteps, if he will let me, on my next visit to Dublin.
    • ParramattaPaul
      Reminds me of the day my associates and I developed a cure for all mankind's ills and mistakenly wrote it down with invisible ink.
    • AnneD
      Was that the end of the Laboratory? Somehow the exactitude created a fully destructive device, as always!
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Expiring Soon

    • By benbot517
      51 years and 11 months
    • By benbot517
      51 years and 11 months
    • By benbot517
      51 years and 11 months
    • By Okami
      51 years and 11 months
    • By Okami
      51 years and 11 months
  • Random Adverts

  • Files

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. Armand K
      Armand K
      (39 years old)
    2. BKJ
      BKJ
      (61 years old)
    3. charleydido
      charleydido
      (76 years old)
    4. concord2000
      concord2000
      (69 years old)
    5. Denibird
      Denibird





×
×
  • Create New...