Jump to content

Lamy Cp1 Vs Twsbi 580


Zouz99

Recommended Posts

Hey Guys,

 

I am looking for a nice practical pen for everyday use, and prolonged writing sessions in an academic environment, after examining all my options Im torn between the CP1 and the TWSBI 580. I am considering a Fine nib by the way, which one should I opt for?

 

Many Thanks.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 12
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • katerchen

    3

  • Zouz99

    3

  • aderoy

    1

  • swanjun

    1

I have (and like) both. But for long writing sessions I'd go with the 580, simply because the CP1 is too damn skinny and after a page or two gives me hand cramps holding it.

 

Plus, a transparent piston filler pen is just way too awesome :P

 

-k

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I wouldn't say so. The 580 has facets that make it look quite nice. I would also vote TWSBI in this instance. It'll hold more ink, and its fine nib would probably be finer than the Lamy (sometimes theirs run a bit wide) so you wouldn't need to fill up as often.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for the input, I was curious about how thin the CP1 is, is it that thin in real life?

 

 

The CP1 would be very close in diameter to a 'normal' No2 pencil, or a Caran d'Ache Ecridor FP/BP/MP if that helps. Fits into a Filofax pen loop no problem.

 

Light in weight, can be posted securely (I do not post shifts the balance too far back for smaller hands).

 

The CP1 is a thin metal cylinder (Brass?) with ribbed plastic section. There are pictures and reviews in the review section.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for the input, I was curious about how thin the CP1 is, is it that thin in real life?

 

My CP1 is at work and I rarely bring it home. On a side note : it's awesome for quick note taking and carrying to meetings. I'll take a picture on Monday with both of them next to each other.

 

But as Aderoy said : it's like a normal pencil. If you feel comfortable writing several pages with a regular pencil, then you should be fine.

 

Also : this varies from vendor to vendor, but check if they include a converter or not (an extra $5 if they don't). Which is of course a moot point with the 580.

 

-k

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Those are 2 very different pens. The cp1 is a 'slimline' pen the section is 8.7mm and the barrel 9.4mm diameter.

So first thing is if you can write with a slim pen, some people can't.

 

Both pens have relatively heavy caps, so I don't post either pen, or the pen will feel tail heavy.

 

Interestingly, I got and use the TWSBI Eco daily, rather than buying a 580. Not that the 580 is not a good pen, but I liked simple looks and low price of the Eco better.

 

I suggest you think about an EF/XF nib. In college, I used a pair of Parker 45 with a F nib, equivalent to a Lamy or TWSBI EF nib. The F nib made the ink last longer and I could pack more writing on a page of paper than with a wider nib. The only issue is that you may have to smoothen the EF nib, to get it to write smoothly. Also EF nibs are more sensitive to the smoothness and quality (or lack of smoothness and quality) of the surface of the paper.

Edited by ac12

San Francisco Pen Show - August 28-30, 2020 - Redwood City, California

www.SFPenShow.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I find a CP-1 to be a very light pen (one ofm if not my lightest metal pen), and that goes for posted too....but for a school it is a CC pen and the Twsbi holds more ink.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As promised. That's a 5mm grid paper. So you can see how thin that pen is. I also put a Pilot Custom 74 next to them for comparison.

 

-k

 

http://i.imgur.com/Ocir7vI.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/uWWNg7s.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...

Katerchen, thank you for the comparison.

 

I don't buy Lamy's anylonger since several of my Al-stars had to go back to Lamy because of how the nib attaches to the feed. The design is flawed. I could have gotten over the pain of sending it back multiple times, but everytime, Lamy charges me $8. I got so sick of it, that I stopped buying Lamys.

 

@AC - Ditto on the Eco. What a great pen for the money!

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I had a CP-1 -- had being the operative word. I posted the cap, and when I removed the cap from the back of the pen, the knob to which it was affixed snapped off. I could not extract the piece so could not recap the pen. Contacted the seller who said they had had similar complaints. Seller offered to swap the CP-1 for a TWSBI 580. Still have the TWSBI and use it regularly. Ordinarily I am a huge Lamy fan -- I own and use about 20 Lamy pens from the 2000 to a bunch of Safaris and have had zero problems with them. But if I had to choose between a Lamy CP1 and a TWSBI, no question I'd pick the TWSBI.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I like other respondents own both pens. The Lamy is a very nice pen in deed but for me it has not seen the light of day for a very long time. Like others have commented it is just too skinny for me to use as an everyday writer. I can remember when using it I never posted as the feel was not right.

 

My 580 does, from time to time, comes into rotation and I find it a pen that suits me far better. I would also add my 580 has not had any cracking problems as often mentioned by other owners.

 

Katerchen has shown the Pilot 74, I own a 74 and would think it to be a far better daily writer than a CP or 580.

 

 

Greg

"may our fingers remain ink stained"

Handwriting - one of life's pure pleasures

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      43844
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      33494
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. inkstainedruth
      inkstainedruth
      26624
    5. jar
      jar
      26101
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files






×
×
  • Create New...