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Rohrer & Klingner Dokumentus Ink - Grün (Green)


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Rohrer & Klingner is one of my favourite Ink makers. They offer nice and reasonably priced (especially in Europe) standard inks as well as two gall inks (Salix and Scabiosa). It seems the company is a little underrated among fountain pens aficionados. I believe their products should receive more attention.

Few months ago the company’s introduced a line of six Dokumentus Inks sold in 50 ml glass bottle. Dokumentus ink is the world's first fountain pen ink that conforms to the requirements of DIN ISO 12757-2 (the standard that determines archival quality). Rohrer and Klingner Dokumetus inks has been certified for use by registrars on official documents, they’re ph-neutral, permanent and archival.

Some criteria of this certification require color to remain readable after a defined dose of sunlight and under the influence of water the ink may only extend so far that the text line remain visible. ISO 12757-2 requires legibility and the ability to be stored for long periods of time. These inks should show resistance to water, light, ethanol, hydrochloric acid, ammonia, and bleach. I’ve tried only water. Test was positive. Water won’t do any harm to the text written with one of Dokumentus inks.

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The line consists of six colors:

  1. Braun (Brown)
  2. Dunkel Blau (Dark Blue)
  3. Grün (Green)
  4. Hellblau (Light Blue)
  5. Magenta
  6. Schwarz (Black)

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I strongly dislike the color of this green ink. It behaves well though and if you need green bombproof ink it may be the one.

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Drops of ink on kitchen towel

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Software ID

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Tomoe River, Kaweco Sport Classic, broad nib

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Leuchtturm1917, Kaweco Sport Classic, broad nib

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Oxford notebook, Hero 5028, stub 1,9

Water resistance

(white balance is slightly off - artificial light, shot taken 5 hours after putting this page into water)

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Excellent review! I love my Rohrer & Klingner inks. I have most of them (except the IG inks). Regarding the Dokumentus inks, did you notice any adverse effects to your pens?

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Thanks for the review.

I'll pass on this one, though -- not a green I like.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

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@DrPenfection - well, actually I use only brown. It behaves well. The other inks were in pen short time, just to make the review. So far Brown behaves well. But it's not standard ink so once we use them some care should be taken.

Thanks, Vis! I will check into them more carefully. I do need a nice brown.

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Thanks Vis! I love bright and cheerful greens. I'm iffy on this color, is it because it is too blue? I may get it just to try it.

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Thank you for (yet another) excellent, brief introduction/review. I'm looking at this line of inks now, and your reviews are useful in helping me decide.

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It's actually the perfect green if you're looking to match a TWSBI Diamond 580 in Green or a Leuchtturm 1917 in Emerald:

 

http://www.scriptorius.net/TWSBI_Green.jpg

 

http://www.scriptorius.net/My_Emerald_Journal.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It's actually the perfect green if you're looking to match a TWSBI Diamond 580 in Green or a Leuchtturm 1917 in Emerald:

 

http://www.scriptorius.net/TWSBI_Green.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i wonder if ink will stain this pen...

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I don't have experience with the green, but I have used both the brown and (dark) blue versions. Excellent inks. Of the two, I prefer the brown, which is not a million miles from R&K's sepia or J.Herbin's Cacao de Brésil in tone.

 

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I have found that the ink leaves a residue in the pen, in the three different pens I have used these inks. The presence makes cleaning the pen both a little more work and (in my opinion) more necessary.

 

Having said that, though, the inks behave very well and are a pleasure to use.

I cannot remember which ink I used in which of my TSWBIs, but whatever combination it was, the ink did not stain it.

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I'm always perplexed when people (or companies) call an aqua, teal or turquoise "green." As Amberlea said, it's too blue. I'll add that it's not dark enough to make a statement, so I join the others with a tepid response to the color.

 

Green is a tough color, maybe because it's so dominant in nature. I'm most drawn to botanical greens and olives, that are soothing and closer to tones found in nature. The vivid or neon greens are (to my eye) jarring, but once they wander into the turquoise/aqua/teal category, they evoke water and many of these I find have a cheerful and sometimes tropical feeling to them. Not the most practical color to use day-to-day, but nice to see in a review on FPN.

 

Thanks, as always, for your superb review of this ink.

James

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I don't have experience with the green, but I have used both the brown and (dark) blue versions. Excellent inks. Of the two, I prefer the brown, which is not a million miles from R&K's sepia or J.Herbin's Cacao de Brésil in tone.

 

BUT

I have found that the ink leaves a residue in the pen, in the three different pens I have used these inks. The presence makes cleaning the pen both a little more work and (in my opinion) more necessary.

 

Having said that, though, the inks behave very well and are a pleasure to use.

I cannot remember which ink I used in which of my TSWBIs, but whatever combination it was, the ink did not stain it.

 

Haven't tried the brown; wasn't all that enamored of Dunkelblau, but I'm quite fond of Hellblau (the light blue). I have a sample of Documentus Magenta, but haven't gotten around to trying it yet.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

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Thank you for the review. This looks a bit like the other German (Lamy/Pelikan) green inks - too light for me.

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Yes, it is a light green so I use it for annotating my notebooks where the main text is written using Pilot Blue-Black.

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I guess I'm the weirdo, because I like these cooler greens.

 

I received this ink as lagniappe from...somewhere, and put it to immediate use for my recipe index cards, where liquid resistance is vital. It turned out to be a splendid choice, because there's zero squinting to read this one from the card two feet away in a hectic kitchen, that's for sure!

 

 

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