wastelanded Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Definitely Yes. "I was cut off from the world. There was no one to confuse or torment me, and I was forced to become original." - Franz Joseph Haydn 1732 - 1809 Link to post Share on other sites
trdsf Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Definitely need to give at least one of these a try. I love my R&K Alt-Goldgrün. Have you tried mixing colors? I love a blue-black m'self and since they don't offer one directly, I'd hope to be able to make one. "Well, believe me, I calculated the odds of this succeeding versus the odds I was doing something incredibly stupid... and I went ahead anyway." --Crow T. Robot, Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie My Flickr, if you're interested Link to post Share on other sites
stephanos Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 How does this colour compare with R&K's sepia? On my screen, they look quite similar. Link to post Share on other sites
ThomBerg Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 R & K has made a cleaning fluid specifically for dokumentus. 50ml with erka-rapid ink tank on board.The cleaning liquid 5 minutes into the fountain pen, then rinse well with water. Thomas Link to post Share on other sites
Bill P Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Thomas: Can you provide a link or some information as to where you saw the R&K cleaning fluid for the dokumentus ink? I haven't been able to find anything on it. Thanks,Bill Link to post Share on other sites
ThomBerg Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Hello Bill, that is brand new. I think in a few weeks your R & K trader will have. Regards,Thomas Link to post Share on other sites
ThomBerg Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Here it is: http://rohrer-klingner.de/index.php?id=50&L=0 Thomas Link to post Share on other sites
Bill P Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Thomas, Thanks for the link...I'll be looking for some of the cleaner. I have all of the R & K dokumentus inks, and so far I like them very much. Bill Link to post Share on other sites
ThomBerg Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Bill, I'm sure your excellent(!) online stores are to offer soon. If you absolutely can not have any, write me a message. https://eshop.t-online.de/epages/Shop45619.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Shop45619/Categories/ContactForm Thomas Link to post Share on other sites
inkstainedruth Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I had not known about the cleaner before today. Is there something special about the cleaner that you can't get with other methods, or something that makes the ink harder to flush with normal methods (or both)?I haven't tried the Brown, but I have Hellblau in a pen at the moment and other than some spread and a tiny bit of bleedthrough (and a bit of nib creep -- but not to the point of clogging the slit) it seems very well behaved -- starts right up with good flow. It's in a Parker Vector which is one of the wetter writers i have (although not the firehose of the one I bought first).Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth "It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen." Link to post Share on other sites
ThomBerg Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Water resistant Fountain Pen inks are a little bit tricky, because waterresistance and watersolubility are difficult to reconcile.Anyway, it is important to rinse the cleaner thoroughly with water, otherwise the ink flow is increased. Thomas Link to post Share on other sites
stephanos Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I put R&K dokumentus braun into my TWSBI Vac Mini (both new, so it was a first use of both).When the ink ran out after a few days, I cleaned the pen out and noticed that all sorts of gunk coming out - little chunks. It was very weird. At first, I thought a bit of the feed had somehow fallen off, but there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the pen: my only explanation is that it is chunks from the ink. A sample of one, admittedly.So perhaps the special cleaning fluid breaks up the ink? Link to post Share on other sites
ThomBerg Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 That is a problem of all these nanoinks, also e.g. Montblanc permanent. Transferred to other vessels had already people in a short time "ink Pudding". This is probably an interaction with something. The speculations are e.g. ink residue or water (maybe tap water). But honestly, I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites
proton007 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Interesting color, that's all I would say. Although, considering they're archival inks, certified at that, one wouldn't go wrong with picking a more traditional dark blue or just black. In a world where there are no eyes the sun would not be light, and in a world where there were no soft skins rocks would not be hard, nor in a world where there were no muscles would they be heavy. Existence is relationship and you're smack in the middle of it. - Alan Watts Link to post Share on other sites
Bill P Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I have all of the new dokumentus inks, and recently inked up my F/C 65 with a stub nib..with the green.... Hard start everytime....if left for several hours (as in overnight) it was a really hard start... I have the black in a Lamy safari with a fine nib - and no problems...starts first time every time...even after being left overnight.I like the black alot... The Green just may not match well with the F/C 65 and the Stub nib...will try the green in another pen soon. I find R & K inks to be a very good value.... Link to post Share on other sites
inkstainedruth Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I have all of the new dokumentus inks, and recently inked up my F/C 65 with a stub nib..with the green.... Hard start everytime....if left for several hours (as in overnight) it was a really hard start... Interesting. I have Hellblau in a Parker Vector with a medium nib, and other than some nib creep (and some bleedthrough in places on cheaper paper) it's very well behaved -- starts up every time the pen is uncapped. Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth "It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen." Link to post Share on other sites
Bill P Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Looking forward to trying HellBlau... Link to post Share on other sites
ThomBerg Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) I bring now even the cleaner to the people, let's see how the tests are.The liquid is slightly yellow and smells of citronella.http://www.kalligraphie-shop.com/WebRoot/Store6/Shops/Shop45619/56A9/48A2/D929/85C6/2A1B/AC12/A07C/BF93/Fueller__Reiniger.jpg Edited January 27, 2016 by ThomBerg Link to post Share on other sites
max dog Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Its nice to see permanent inks in many colors. How do they behave on cheap absorbant papers in the real world? Link to post Share on other sites
ThomBerg Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 That's depending on the manufacturer. DeAtramentis document ink can fray a bit. If you like to write with penholder pointed nibs, e.g. Copperplate, is only the Montblanc permanent usable. Link to post Share on other sites
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