visvamitra Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Rohrer & Klingner is one of my favourite Ink makers. They offer nice and reasonably priced (especially in Europe) standard inks as well as two gall inks (Salix and Scabiosa). It seems the company is a little underrated among fountain pens aficionados. I believe their products should receive more attention. Few months ago the company’s introduced a line of six Dokumentus Inks sold in 50 ml glass bottle. Dokumentus ink is the world's first fountain pen ink that conforms to the requirements of DIN ISO 12757-2 (the standard that determines archival quality). Rohrer and Klingner Dokumetus inks has been certified for use by registrars on official documents, they’re ph-neutral, permanent and archival. Some criteria of this certification require color to remain readable after a defined dose of sunlight and under the influence of water the ink may only extend so far that the text line remain visible. ISO 12757-2 requires legibility and the ability to be stored for long periods of time. These inks should show resistance to water, light, ethanol, hydrochloric acid, ammonia, and bleach. I’ve tried only water. Test was positive. Water won’t do any harm to the text written with one of Dokumentus inks. The line consists of six colors: Braun (Brown) Dunkel Blau (Dark Blue) Grun (Green) Hellblau (Light Blue) Magenta Schwarz (Black) Braun is the best ink of the pack. Not only it has all archival ink properties, it also has stunning colors. That's precisely the kind of brown I enjoy most. Drops of ink on kitchen towel Software ID Tomoe River, Kaweco Sport Classic, broad nib Leuchtturm1917, Kaweco Sport Classic, broad nib Oxford notebook, Hero 5028, stub 1,9 Water resistance (white balance is slightly off - artificial light, shot taken 5 hours after putting this page into water) https://wondernaut.wordpress.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
swanjun Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I like this one. Perhaps (as with Kobe Sumiyoshi Brown) I just really like the greyish browns! Link to post Share on other sites
inkstainedruth Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Thanks for the review. I like the water resistance. But I'm not sure I care for the color. This one I'd have to try a sample and decide. Do you know how the R&K document inks compare to the De Atramentis ones? I've tried a few of those and they didn't wow me because there is a lot of spread (and the Document Red is a simply *awful* color).Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth "It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen." Link to post Share on other sites
visvamitra Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 In my opinion R&K inks are much better than DA Document inks. DA Document inks tend to feather on almost every single paper. R&K inks have no such issues. https://wondernaut.wordpress.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
Manalto Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 ¡Caramba! I always enjoy your reviews, and this one is no exception. I agree R&K is underrated (Alt Goldgrün is a big favorite); I've found prices to be reasonable here in the U.S. as well. This news about 'Dokumentus' is particularly welcome and must be to others here who have inquired about archival inks. The brown is a soothing color I call 'Elephant Gray' - I have no idea why, although it makes sense to me. Nice - must have. James Link to post Share on other sites
T4TEXAS Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Yes, I will get a bottle. "You can't wait for inspiration. You have to go after it with a club." - Jack London http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww296/messiah_FPN/Badges/SnailBadge.png Link to post Share on other sites
J85909266 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) In my opinion R&K inks are much better than DA Document inks. DA Document inks tend to feather on almost every single paper. R&K inks have no such issues.I can second this. I have tried samples of many DA inks because I was attracted to the color,only to find atrocious feathering issues on every paper. Edited December 22, 2015 by J85909266 Fountain pens forever and forever a hundred years fountain pens, all day long forever, forever a hundred times, over and over Fountain Pen Network Adventures dot com! - Joe Link to post Share on other sites
T4TEXAS Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Yes, I will get a bottle. Uh, I will if someone will tell us where we can buy them in the US and elsewhere. "You can't wait for inspiration. You have to go after it with a club." - Jack London http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww296/messiah_FPN/Badges/SnailBadge.png Link to post Share on other sites
lgsoltek Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Thank you for the review. But none of the colours in this line appeals to me at all. All my inks, with ink splash and links to my reviews Link to post Share on other sites
Manalto Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Thank you for the review. But none of the colours in this line appeals to me at all. I'm so glad you spoke up; I was just about to mail you your Christmas present. James Link to post Share on other sites
lgsoltek Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I'm so glad you spoke up; I was just about to mail you your Christmas present. I guess I'm spoiled by all those Sailor inks. All my inks, with ink splash and links to my reviews Link to post Share on other sites
mehandiratta Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I like this brown... probably I will end up buying these vaibhav mehandiratta architect & fountain pen connoisseur blog | instagram | twitter Link to post Share on other sites
Tas Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I agree with you visvamitra, R&K make wonderful inks and have a few must have colours. I think this brown is a must have for me. Thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites
swanjun Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Uh, I will if someone will tell us where we can buy them in the US and elsewhere. Anderson Pens has them. Link to post Share on other sites
jmccarty3 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I like these greyish browns very much. Rationalizing pen and ink purchases since 1967. Link to post Share on other sites
DrDebG Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Thank you for taking the time to review this ink, Vis! This is a nice brown, but it is a bit too grey for me. "Today will be gone in less than 24 hours. When it is gone, it is gone. Be wise, but enjoy! - anonymous today Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick L Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Thanks for this great review vismamitra. On my screen this ink does not look brown at all. It looks grey and nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites
amberleadavis Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Thank you for the review. But none of the colours in this line appeals to me at all. We share the same ink tastes. This ink reminds me of coffee unfit for consumption. Vis, thanks for another great review. Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas). Want to get a special letter / gift from me, then create a Ghostly Avatar Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 366 Inks in 2016 Check out inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY Link to post Share on other sites
pictogramax Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Thanks for the review, looking very interesting. I love R&K Scabiosa, but it is not fully waterproof. This seems to solve that issue. Anyone tried it for sketching and washing over with watercolors? Interesting comments by inkstainedtruth, visvamitra and J85905266, prefering it to De Atramentis Document inks. I have been using DA Document Brown for sketching for some time without any problems, in fact, it has been great for me (although I used it always on quality watercolor paper where bleeding was never an issue). If the majority claims that R&K is better, maybe I should give it a try? Link to post Share on other sites
rudyhou Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 it looks greyish sepia. an interesting shade of brown. -rudy- Link to post Share on other sites
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