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A Smug Dill Museum Piece

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29 minutes ago, danielpi said:

It's been a while. If an admin would please edit the first post to update it—many thanks:

 

HTML tags for tables and its subordinate objects are not accepted by the forum software application, since the upgrade nearly twenty-four months ago. What you posted just then won't work at all, I'm afraid.

 

 

I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present, when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable; and link to third-party content where I can, when I make a claim or refute a statement of fact in a thread. If there is something you can verify for yourself, I entreat you to do so, and judge for yourself what is right, correct, and valid. I may be wrong, and my position or say-so is no more authoritative and carries no more weight than anyone else's here.

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On 10/22/2022 at 11:36 AM, A Smug Dill said:

 

HTML tags for tables and its subordinate objects are not accepted by the forum software application, since the upgrade nearly twenty-four months ago. What you posted just then won't work at all, I'm afraid.

 

 

 

Oh thanks. Most unfortunate. 

 

If anyone is interested in the updated table, I guess I'll just provide a link. I'll keep the table semi-updated at: http://danielpi.com/fountain-pens/2015/12/1/nibs-and-who-makes-them.

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This is great!  Thanks for the update.

 

Erick

Using right now:

Visconti Voyager 30 "M" nib running Birmingham Streetcar

Jinhao 9019 "EF" nib running Birmingham Railroad Spike

Pelikan M1000 "F" nib running Birmingham Sugar Kelp

Sailor King of Pens "M" nib running Van Dieman's Heemskerch and Zeehaen

 

 

 

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It's good to see that again. In house is less than generations ago. One can specify which level of nib one wants at Bock.

I'm some 20 minute drive from Bock. A long time ago some couple of then big pen guys made a visit. It should still be somewhere in the net.

a long time ago....10-15 years Bock's large building had been the only one there, now there are other industries clustered around it.....saw that in Google.

 

In 1998 Pelikan outsourced it's gold nibs to Bock....don't know if they did the 200's also. Folks complained like mad about the new stiffer, fatter nibs.

 

When Pelikan took the nibs back In-House @ 2010...at first many were happy, thinking the old great nibs were coming back...:lticaptd:........the very same complaints were made....fat stiff, nibs that didn't give a clear line (double ball vs teardrop).............in those were exact Pelikan's specs they gave Bock.

So for years Bock was blamed for making Pelikan nibs exactly as Pelikan wanted.

Bock had made the 1000's nibs as semi-flex, Pelikan dropped that a level to regular flex.

 

I've a few old Bock nibs, that are semi-flex one in steel and one in gold.

 

Visconti either got the very cheapest Bock nib or screwed up the nibs in their own factory....in one didn't hear the other major companies having nib troubles Visconti had.

 

When I was very  'noobie' one can believe all sorts of myths passed on by higher count posters. The In-House myth is one of them.

I was so new, I didn't know what semi-flex was....and had a Degussa and a Bock nib in hand from junk pens, and had my hand over the trash can.....in the myth said only In House was worth having. Luckily they didn't take up much space....so they didn't end up trashed.

 

That reminds me of the soft gold myth :headsmack:....a story for another thread.

 

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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