Parker 51 Jewel Color List

[mitto]

Any idea how many colors the 51s' jewels (both Vacs and Aeros) came in?

I have lately acquired an aero 51 with pure white jewel. And , hence , the curiosity to learn how many colors the jewels came in.

[crescentfiller]

I've no idea, but if you stumble upon an amber/honey 51 barrel jewel, I'm in need of one!

 

Best,

Daniel

[mitto]

I have a few 51s with amber jewels and may be a couple spare ones but for the cap and not the barrel.

[Manalto]

Interesting topic, Khan. When you have a moment, could you post a photo of the pen with the white jewel?

[Beechwood]

Previosly discussed in:

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/170609-parker-51-jewel-colors/

 

Many more colours than I had seen being just white, lemon, black and the usual pearl grey.

[Manalto]

Previosly discussed in:

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/170609-parker-51-jewel-colors/

 

Many more colours than I had seen being just white, lemon, black and the usual pearl grey.

 

I think Khan is looking for a more encyclopedic listing. (It would be nice to have a photo of each. Am I beginning to sound like a broken record?) That thread focuses on the black and green jewels of individual members.

[mitto]

Interesting topic, Khan. When you have a moment, could you post a photo of the pen with the white jewel?

Yes , James. Here it is:

 

It is dark here. Cloudy. And , looks like it is going to start raining anytime soon. Hence , the darker picture.

Edited June 15, 2015 by mitto

[mitto]

Much better now , I think :

[mitto]

I think Khan is looking for a more encyclopedic listing. (It would be nice to have a photo of each. Am I beginning to sound like a broken record?) That thread focuses on the black and green jewels of individual members.

 

Yes. That is what I meant , James.

[Ron Z]

As far as I know Parker made three colors - black, pearl silver, honey (amber). There are a host of other colors out there, most are Kullock reproduction jewels. The original celluloid jewels often shear off as you try to remove them from the clip screw. Originals are getting to be expensive, so most people choose to have me install a reproduction jewel at about 1/6 the cost.

[mitto]

As far as I know Parker made three colors - black, pearl silver, honey (amber). There are a host of other colors out there, most are Kullock reproduction jewels. The original celluloid jewels often shear off as you try to remove them from the clip screw. Originals are getting to be expensive, so most people choose to have me install a reproduction jewel at about 1/6 the cost.

Wouldn't you consider discoloration of the jewels since no Kullock reproduction parts are available in this part of the globe.

[crescentfiller]

I have a few 51s with amber jewels and may be a couple spare ones but for the cap and not the barrel.

 

Khan, thanks for checking! If you run into an amber barrel jewel, please keep me in mind.

 

As for discoloration, you are probably right, as the pearl and amber jewels would likely be prone to change.

 

Best,

Daniel

[Ron Z]

 

 

As for discoloration, you are probably right, as the pearl and amber jewels would likely be prone to change.

 

Not so much, really. I see few discolored jewels, and Lord only knows how many hundreds of 51s I've done. Unless stained or (shudder) painted, the jewels tend to hold their color fairly well. The consensus is that the honey jewels are in fact a different color jewel, and not just a discolored jewel. Ink from the cap rarely makes it up to the visible part of the jewel, so little to stain them or cause them to change color. The NOS ones that I have are still the pearly gray and close in color to what I find on pens.

[crescentfiller]

 

It sounds like you agree!

 

"Not so much, really...I see few discolored jewels...hold their color fairly well... so little to stain them or cause them to change color. The NOS ones that I have are... close in color to what I find on pens."

 

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear: I did not suggest that amber jewels were discolored pearl jewels. I concur that there are three distinct colors; however, the jewels are plastic and plastic is susceptible to discoloration, however seldom that may occur ("I see few" means you see some!). I've seen quite a few oddly darkened and distorted pearl jewels over the years. From smoke? Solvents? Polishes? Who knows.

The white jewel certainly sounds like a Fantasy item, or perhaps a transplant from a another knockoff.

[mitto]

Well , I remember the jewel was not clear white before the cleaning in soapy water. It was sort of whitish grey. And the water got blue black from the cloged ink. Also , I could see ink seeping from the cap top and from around the jewel. After cleaning , however , the jewel turned clear white.

[richardandtracy]

I have made a P51 compatible brass jewel for one of my P17's (which had a P51 like cap). It was a pain to make, I must say. Really not worth the time it took (about 30 minutes). I can understand why replacement jewels are quite expensive.

 

Regards,

 

Richard.

[mitto]

Back to the basic question. How many colors/shades the P51 jewels came in?

[richardandtracy]

From this discussion and the other thread, 4 5.

Black P51S only

Honey Pearl

Grey Pearl

Chrome Jewel (Post 1970 MkIII)

and

First year only: Aluminium.

 

Regards,

 

Richard.

[kirchh]

Note that some early metal jewels appear to be some silver alloy (as opposed to aluminum).

 

--Daniel

[mitto]

Ok. I think I should post picturs of all my 51s' jewels in order to be sure what is what? Honestly speaking I am unable to differentiate between them as the difference appears to be the slightest among some of them.