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You know, I cannot remember a time when I heard the word 'trifecta' used that often... and then I joined FPN!

 

Just a random observation :D

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Okay Friends at FPN. I was not trolling (thank you), I had just misplaced my pen. I have now found it in the bottom of my bag, and will post some photos of it.

 

 

 

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Oh, yeah...that nib is sprung but good. (I actually had to do that to my Prera to get it to write at all).

 

Are you sure your pen's made of plastic, though? The sheen looks metal.

 

Thanks for the photos.

My other pen is a Montblanc and...

 

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It does not post BTW. I have tried

 

Well, it looks all the world like a Metro. I don't know what to say - you've seen the photo of mine, posted, being held upside down, and the cap stays in place. I call that posting, and that is what other people experience as well. There is an off-chance that you might have oily hands and the surface of the barrel becomes more slick? I don't know, I'm just searching for reasons why your pen doesn't post for you.

 

As for the nib: was it dropped? Because it is badly bent up, and if that was done simply by writing, you are using waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much pressure. There is a small possibility that if you pull the nib off, flatten it out and do the best you can to align the nibs, you may get it writing again. Otherwise you'll need to either buy another, or, if you would like to try an italic style nib, buy a Pilot Plumix and pull the nib off of that and put it on the Metro. They are the same fit, and it should cost < $9.00

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Granted I'm new at this whole pen thing, but something looks off about that. The plastic "decorative" band should be solid black, not patterned.

 

Also something looks off about the plastic piece that holds the nib, although I can't really figure out what.

 

But beyond that it looks like a metropolitan.

 

You made me cringe at the sight of the bent nib, by the way.

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Granted I'm new at this whole pen thing, but something looks off about that. The plastic "decorative" band should be solid black, not patterned.

 

Not so. Here is just one pattern (might be what is in the OPs photo, kinda hard to see), and there are others besides the plain band:

 

http://i.imgur.com/tBQ2m0f.jpg

 

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Not so. Here is just one pattern (might be what is in the OPs photo, kinda hard to see), and there are others besides the plain band:

http://i.imgur.com/tBQ2m0f.jpg

 

I stand corrected. :)

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It's hard to see unless you zoom in on the photo.

 

Well, so are the moons of Saturn. ;)

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I agree. Can't see why anyone would ever want something like that.

"...seemed like a good idea at the time..." :lticaptd:

It was a good idea at the time and still is a good idea. I'm a herpetologist so it appealed to my inner snake. I don't generally like fine nibs but that one is a pretty good writer. It doesn't post, it will tear any pocket I try to clip it into and it is heavy enough with a sharp enough nib that it can probably serve as a throwing knife but it's a great conversation starter at reptile club meetings and shows.

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Okay Friends at FPN. I was not trolling (thank you), I had just misplaced my pen. I have now found it in the bottom of my bag, and will post some photos of it.

 

You're welcome. I'm not sure how you call that plastic, unless you've just never encountered aluminum before in your life. Of course, there are people who think the Jinhao x750 has a plastic body, so I think some people just have no idea what metal is. Oh well.

 

As for posting all I can really say is, if you can't post the Metro, you're doing it wrong.

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As for posting all I can really say is, if you can't post the Metro, you're doing it wrong.

 

Considering I'm the guy that showed the photo of my Metro posted, this might sound odd, but... waitaminit.

 

I can post the pen, but it is not the easiest pen of my collection to post by a long shot. The outer surface of the barrel is very smooth and - at a certain level - matte-like. The tolerance between the inner cap and the barrel are close, but unless you put a bit of twist or a small amount of force on it, the cap will pop off. I have many other pens that are such a perfect fit that you simply place the cap on the back end of the barrel and it never goes anywhere. Even when it feels sort-of secure, the Metro cap can become easily unposted while I'm writing with it.

 

Which is one of the reasons why I don't use it often. I still recommend it as a good starter pen and don't regret purchasing it for that purpose (I already had lots of pens but wanted to see if it was a good suggestion for others). Nonetheless, I have other pens that feel better in my hand.

 

The OP may not be "doing it wrong", just maybe needing to be a bit more assertive when posting. Or not. I just know it works for mine.

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Yes, actually. It writes so much better than with the nib it had when I bought it.

 

Hey, I'd keep it as a desk pen to use at home. Mine doesn't like to post, either.

My other pen is a Montblanc and...

 

My other blog is a tumblr.

 

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It was a good idea at the time and still is a good idea. I'm a herpetologist so it appealed to my inner snake. I don't generally like fine nibs but that one is a pretty good writer. It doesn't post, it will tear any pocket I try to clip it into and it is heavy enough with a sharp enough nib that it can probably serve as a throwing knife but it's a great conversation starter at reptile club meetings and shows.

 

Okay. Being a herpetologist, you're one of those rare pen enthusiasts who's earned the right to carry that pen with pride. :)

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i have a black Pilot M. it writes fine. the only think i dislike is the 'step' at one end of the grip section, which makes gripping or holding the pen feels uncomfortable for long writing.

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Considering I'm the guy that showed the photo of my Metro posted, this might sound odd, but... waitaminit.

 

I can post the pen, but it is not the easiest pen of my collection to post by a long shot. The outer surface of the barrel is very smooth and - at a certain level - matte-like. The tolerance between the inner cap and the barrel are close, but unless you put a bit of twist or a small amount of force on it, the cap will pop off. I have many other pens that are such a perfect fit that you simply place the cap on the back end of the barrel and it never goes anywhere. Even when it feels sort-of secure, the Metro cap can become easily unposted while I'm writing with it.

 

Which is one of the reasons why I don't use it often. I still recommend it as a good starter pen and don't regret purchasing it for that purpose (I already had lots of pens but wanted to see if it was a good suggestion for others). Nonetheless, I have other pens that feel better in my hand.

 

The OP may not be "doing it wrong", just maybe needing to be a bit more assertive when posting. Or not. I just know it works for mine.

 

Yep, that qualifies as doing it wrong. Not trying to be pedantic, but just because the Metro doesn't post securely doesn't mean it doesn't post at all.

 

I think the worst part of this thread is that the OP came in criticizing the pen and all its users without taking the time to ask questions first. Making assumptions, and wrong assumptions at that, is the fastest way to get branded an (bleep) and for that behavior to be returned in kind. The OP doesn't seem like he's new to fountain pens, and that makes his approach characteristically arrogant. Nobody should have an arrogant attitude when it comes to fountain pens, we're all learning something new about them, sometimes every day. Everyone has their own opinions about FPS, how to use them, how best to, how not to, etc.

 

I recognize that some people don't see the need for such humility. I'm sure it sometimes comes with ownership of more expensive pens, but even owners of Montblanc, Pelikan, Delta or Visconti pens have to ask questions and learn something. The cheapest Noodler's pen can turn out to be trickier than a $500 high end pen, and turn a fountain pen veteran into a bumbling newbie. Taking to the Internet sites like FPN and lambasting the pen and its users for their problems is, plain and simple, the wrong approach. It leads to threads like this, where OP is misunderstood and met with (rightly so) anger and bruised feelings from folks who enjoy the pen in question with no problems.

 

A better way to go about it is to post a troubleshooting topic with questions. Or, if all else fails, a neutral review of the pen explaining the issues encountered without the vitriol towards its users. The old saying, Your Mileage May Vary, is a great adage to consider when viewing one's experience with these pens. Some people will have a great experience with one pen while five others will hate it, but none of those users are just outright wrong about their experiences. That's the key here, respecting each other.

 

Threads posted without respect deserve an appropriate response.

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Threads posted without respect deserve an appropriate response.

 

I agree. The appropriate response is to show respect in spite of your perception of the original post. We all have our bad days, we all have times when we express ourselves inelegantly. How good it is to think that someone might allow for that, and respond to our utterances with respect borne out of consideration.

 

Lighten up. The guy had a problem with his pen. We can help him get over it.

"When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick; and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."

~ Benjamin Franklin

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