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I have two Sailor pens, Sailor Sapporo and Sailor 1911 Large NT nib. They are both in my top 10 pens but I use them less and less because of the limited ink capacity.

 

I write a lot and just don't feel the confidence in these pens that will last me a day of writing. I think converter holds 0.6 ml of ink and I have difficulty filling them fully so its more like 0.5ml.

 

Looks like pens are designed for Japanese writing system in which you use less ink to write down the same message (what you will need four pages of writing in English will only take three pages in Japanese.) I was thinking of converting them to an eyedropper but I am no great fan of them. Cartridge holds more ink but I would rather use rollerball then put that plastic thing in a pen.

 

Are there any larger converters that would fit in these two pens?

Inked: Sailor King Pro Gear, Sailor Nagasawa Proske, Sailor 1911 Standard, Parker Sonnet Chiselled Carbon, Parker 51, Pilot Custom Heritage 92, Platinum Preppy

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Done that, just cut the cartridge in half and fitted the ink sac on it. It trebled the ink capacity but looks a bit shabby. Thanks for advice though

Inked: Sailor King Pro Gear, Sailor Nagasawa Proske, Sailor 1911 Standard, Parker Sonnet Chiselled Carbon, Parker 51, Pilot Custom Heritage 92, Platinum Preppy

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No real solution to the ink capacity that I am aware of. I have 7 Sailors and 5 Naginata-Togi's. Even the Realo model doesn't solve the ink issue. Refilling a cartridge will give you the most ink, at almost 1ml. I don't like that either. Therefore, I started carrying 3ml or so of the ink I was using in my briefcase.... in case I ran out. Sample vile in a zip lock baggie. Then, I though..... dummy, just buy a second NT to carry and fill them both with the same ink. So now I have 5.

 

Ink capacity is the only downside to Sailor pens, IMO.

I enjoy MB 146 pens, Sailor, Pilot and Platinum pens as well. I have a strong attraction to dark red and muted green ink, colors I dislike for everything but FP ink. I also enjoy practicing my handwriting and attempting to improve it. I love the feel of quality paper under a gold nib.

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I also like Sailor pens. I find the ink lasts me several days, though, from one refill. I always carry several fountain pens with me, and usually at least one in a Pilot Custom 823. They hold several mL of ink if you do the refill trick with them and because they are demonstrators, I always know how much ink I have before I leave the house in the morning.

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/84753-how-to-fill-a-pilot-custom-823/

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/196924-pilot-custom-823-medium-14k-nib/

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I'm still trying to figure out how to list all my pens down here.

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If I'm planning to write with my 1911 NT-MF, I always carry extra pens with me. Invariably, it seems that I run out of ink halfway through a note-taking session.

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My least favourite converter out there.

 

I changed my best Sailor to an eyedropper a few years ago with no regrets.

 

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How do you change a Sailor to an eyedropper? Is there a Youtube video for that?

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My least favourite converter out there.

 

I changed my best Sailor to an eyedropper a few years ago with no regrets.

 

 

What about the metal parts in the body of the pen? Was there no oxydation?

Inked: Sailor King Pro Gear, Sailor Nagasawa Proske, Sailor 1911 Standard, Parker Sonnet Chiselled Carbon, Parker 51, Pilot Custom Heritage 92, Platinum Preppy

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Wouldn't something like these Sailor made nylon/leather pen cases work?

 

http://thewritingdesk.co.uk/showproduct.php?brand=Sailor&range=Pen+Cases&cat=pen+cases&subr=

 

They are designed to carry both pen and ink.

They carry CARTRIDGES... and I am pretty sure, people who use plastic cartridges are at risk of going to hell...

Inked: Sailor King Pro Gear, Sailor Nagasawa Proske, Sailor 1911 Standard, Parker Sonnet Chiselled Carbon, Parker 51, Pilot Custom Heritage 92, Platinum Preppy

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They carry CARTRIDGES... and I am pretty sure, people who use plastic cartridges are at risk of going to hell...

As the cartridges hold more ink, and can easily be refilled with more interesting inks and resealed with a glue gun and some blunt syringes, damnd I'll be.

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As the cartridges hold more ink, and can easily be refilled with more interesting inks and resealed with a glue gun and some blunt syringes, damnd I'll be.

I refilled empty cartridges using a syringe. I carried them in an Altoids mint tin.

I didn't seal the openings of the cartridges.

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I refilled empty cartridges using a syringe. I carried them in an Altoids mint tin.

I didn't seal the openings of the cartridges.

Interesting. You phrased that in past tense; are you still doing this? Several cartridges in the tin? Since an Altoids tin is nowhere near airtight, how much dehydration did you notice? Seems that if any sort of pocket lint got in, it might wick ink until the cartridge was empty. Care to share any anecdotes or do's and don't's?

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<snip> Refilling a cartridge will give you the most ink, at almost 1ml. I don't like that either. Therefore, I started carrying 3ml or so of the ink I was using in my briefcase.... in case I ran out. Sample vile in a zip lock baggie. <snip>

It is possible to carry spare ink in a much smaller vile if you are willing to remove the converter from the pen and just dip the converter in the ink. The small vile fits inside a pill bottle for protection. One caveat; Platinum converters have a metal ring and crevasses so they are harder to wipe clean after dipping in ink.

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