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Sailor — Pen And Message Cigar


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Original Crown Mill Pure Cotton Paper, dipped (top) and Lamy 2000 F/M (bottom)

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Quick wash on Original Crown Mill Classic Laid Paper (envelope)

This is the brown I've been looking for. Cigar is not perfect. It looks its best on high quality, absorbent paper and looks flat and everything else, including high-end vellum (sorry, Clairfontaine Triomphe lovers). It behaves perfectly in a dip pen, but it's dark enough to lack depth. I'll stick with Tokiwa-matsu for my go-to dipped green.

This is such a strangely complex color. It is a dark, unsaturated (in the chroma sense) green with a unique satiny sheen that makes it appear brown. This has the result on aborbent paper of being both green and brown at once. Fantastic. FPN member Sandy might call this one indecisive. That's OK with me.

It works so well with my new sketching brown (Yama-guri), and washes so beautifully, I think it may be my new sketch-worthy green, too. Time will tell.

Because of the cost of importing this ink from Japan, I attempted to mix my own. I came very close with a 2:5 mix of Sailor Tokiwa-matsu and Iroshizuku Yama-guri. You can see from the first pass (q-tip/earbud) that the subdued green is similar. However, more ink gives red sheen that causes the ink to look brown in the Cigar, while no sheen arises with the faux Cigar. Strange, as Tokiwa-matsu and Yama-guri each have a nice red sheen on their own. So while I could mimick the color of the ink, the effect is not the same. This is special stuff. I will be buying two bottles.

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Iroshizuku Yama-guri (top), Sailor Cigar (middle), Sailor Tokiwa-matsu (bottom)

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For the sheen lovers, clockwise from left:

Cigar, Sailor Oku-yama (sheen king), R&K Alt-Goldgrün, Sailor Tokiwa-matsu

and Iroshikuzu Yama-budo (center)

As always, reasonable care has been taken to ensure color accuracy. However, this is a complex ink, impossible to represent fully in photographs. If you can get a sample and try it for yourself, do it.

A big THANK YOU to FPNer fire ant for providing me with this sample! Edited by jasonchickerson
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My favorite Brown too... :wub: :wub:

 

I have forgotten how many bottles I bought... I keep giving them away to the people closest to my heart.. :wub: :wub: I believe in karma, when you love something sooo much, it needs to be shared.. ;)

 

 

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My favorite Brown too... :wub: :wub:

 

I have forgotten how many bottles I bought... I keep giving them away to the people closest to my heart.. :wub: :wub: I believe in karma, when you love something sooo much, it needs to be shared.. ;)

 

 

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So, I guess the question is, how does one get close to your heart? ; )

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I have two bottles. I will bodily harm anyone who looks at them funny. I will live with the karmic consequences, this ink is worth it. ;)

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Thanks for showing off this complex ink.

 

Gutted I didn't know of it before ordering my much loved bottle of Brown Algae . . :(

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Thanks for showing off this complex ink.

 

Gutted I didn't know of it before ordering my much loved bottle of Brown Algae . . :(

 

Yes, it does look similar to Brown Algae. Am I correct that Brown Algae does not sheen? I think Cigar is so unique because it derives its color from the sheen.

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Yes, it does look similar to Brown Algae. Am I correct that Brown Algae does not sheen? I think Cigar is so unique because it derives its color from the sheen.

 

There's a smidge of sheen from the Brown Algae - nothing to shout about for sheen lovers though :mellow:

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So, I guess the question is, how does one get close to your heart? ; )

 

 

I was thinking the same thing ;)

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My favorite Brown too... :wub: :wub:

 

I have forgotten how many bottles I bought... I keep giving them away to the people closest to my heart.. :wub: :wub: I believe in karma, when you love something sooo much, it needs to be shared.. ;)

 

 

C.

 

That is a beautiful attitude, way of thinking. especially nowadays.

 

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Lots of hard work went into this terrific review. Great job!

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Well, I attempted to buy a few bottles from through White Rabbit Express, but it turns out this ink is out of stock. Hopefully, it will return soon. When it does, if there are any in the US who'd like a bottle passed along at cost plus shipping, I'm willing to get a three or four extra bottles.

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Lots of hard work went into this terrific review. Great job!

 

Nah, no work here... only play. I'm glad you like it.

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Well, I attempted to buy a few bottles from through White Rabbit Express, but it turns out this ink is out of stock. Hopefully, it will return soon. When it does, if there are any in the US who'd like a bottle passed along at cost plus shipping, I'm willing to get a three or four extra bottles.

 

 

I believe they keep a small stock since they go out of stock very often. It comes back though... so no worries. :lol:

 

 

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Jason - I don't get how White Rabbit Express works - can't find the ink or Pen & Message on their site. But I'd be interested in a bottle or two of Sailor Cigar.

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