How About A Group Buy For Inks In India

[visvamitra]

I would be definitely interested in trying inks from India.

[Morbus Curiositas]

I would be definitely interested in trying inks from India.

me too....

 

But what I do not understand Visa is that they are bargaining for a cheaper price of ink which normally costs 18 rupee which is only 27 cents in euro....

 

Well can understand that the want a lower price the thing that I cannot understand is this...

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/asa%20andy_zpsrlcw4cim.jpg

 

39 Euros are 2621 Indian Rupee and that is in the Indian Shop...

 

The english based lower shop even charge 62 GBP which is 85 Euro or

 

a whopping 5720 Rupee...

 

Those price makes you think twice whether you want an Indian Pen....

 

Indian Prices making an extra buck

 

The price difference between an ink of 16 Rupee and pens of 2621-5720 Rupee. that price difference is completely disproportionate....

 

Especially if you consider some average income in India

 

According to this article in the Hindu.com http://www.thehindu.com/data/does-it-pay-to-be-a-farmer-in-india/article6713980.ece the average farmer income is only 6425 Rupee a month ....Meaning that even bought in India the farmer has to pay merely half his monthly income fr a fountain pen...

 

I find that un believable....

 

There is nothing wrong wiht makein a little extra but this....

 

 

But on hte otherhand I am interested in the ink and FP too

[hari317]

But what I do not understand Visa is that they are bargaining for a cheaper price of ink which normally costs 18 rupee which is only 27 cents in euro....

NO.

 

Some of us are trying to convince the manufacturer (Bril) to make a shade of ink (blue-black) that they have discontinued due to some reason(lack of demand).

 

Some of us are concerned about the high cost of shipping fragile glass bottles internationally and domestically, so are exploring ways to get them in plastic bottles which will be a happy thing for everyone.

 

Pls note that India is a market with a very large dynamic range. You have some of the poorest people in the world who are Indians and some of the richest people in the world who are also Indians.

 

So in India Bril sells ink for 18rs to a bottle where as Montblanc sells a bottle of ink for 1500rs. And both are able to sell their wares.

 

Hope this helps atleast a little in your understanding of the matter.

Edited April 2, 2015 by hari317

[vig2432]

me too....

 

But what I do not understand Visa is that they are bargaining for a cheaper price of ink which normally costs 18 rupee which is only 27 cents in euro....

 

Well can understand that the want a lower price the thing that I cannot understand is this...

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/asa%20andy_zpsrlcw4cim.jpg

 

39 Euros are 2621 Indian Rupee and that is in the Indian Shop...

 

The english based lower shop even charge 62 GBP which is 85 Euro or

 

a whopping 5720 Rupee...

 

Those price makes you think twice whether you want an Indian Pen....

 

Indian Prices making an extra buck

 

The price difference between an ink of 16 Rupee and pens of 2621-5720 Rupee. that price difference is completely disproportionate....

 

Especially if you consider some average income in India

 

According to this article in the Hindu.com http://www.thehindu.com/data/does-it-pay-to-be-a-farmer-in-india/article6713980.ece the average farmer income is only 6425 Rupee a month ....Meaning that even bought in India the farmer has to pay merely half his monthly income fr a fountain pen...

 

I find that un believable....

 

There is nothing wrong wiht makein a little extra but this....

 

 

But on hte otherhand I am interested in the ink and FP too

Those FPs are not used by regular Indians. The ebonite pens made in India are overwhelming bought and used by FP enthusiasts and old people. Those FPs are also sold at a high price in India relative to your perception. I would also add that direct conversion to euros does not make sense. What makes more sense is the PPP of India and Austria. I am pretty sure 40 euros would just be enough for a good lunch for 2 in a decent hotel. With this comparison, the asapens price makes a lot of sense. This does not mean that there are no scamsters trying to make a quick buck. The adage of capitalism is not to sell your product for its true value, but for the value the customers are willing to pay and that is your choice to make.

[Morbus Curiositas]

NO.

 

Some of us are trying to convince the manufacturer (Bril) to make a shade of ink (blue-black) that they have discontinued due to some reason(lack of demand).

 

Some of us are concerned about the high cost of shipping fragile glass bottles internationally and domestically, so are exploring ways to get them in plastic bottles which will be a happy thing for everyone.

 

Pls note that India is a market with a very large dynamic range. You have some of the poorest people in the world who are Indians and some of the richest people in the world who are also Indians.

 

So in India Bril sells ink for 18rs to a bottle where as Montblanc sells a bottle of ink for 1500rs. And both are able to sell their wares.

 

Hope this helps atleast a little in your understanding of the matter.

Thanks a lot for the info Hari...

 

Unbelievable those income differences.

 

I spoke wiht Dr J of De Atramentisabout Inks for India.... Still have to receive the exact information.... In the offer he made now dependant on quantiy ink in 35 ml glass bottles was cheaper per mililiter than inks in 250/500/1000 ml PLASTIC bottles.... A little mistake I guess

 

What I can say now that the prices I have seen now are MUCH much cheaper than the MB ink price you mentioned before.

 

Because there is no Seller of De Atramentis in India The groupbuy can get some sort of Retailer buying price dependant on quantity....

 

Well as you might know from the description on my Profile site I have a broad interest in foreign cultures...

 

Maybe we could do some snail mailing on interesting topics.

 

I will keep al of you informed on the Ink prices. Dr J will study my E-mails during te Easter Weekend

 

 

Regards,

 

Peter

Edited April 2, 2015 by Morbus Curiositas

[hari317]

Thanks a lot for the info Hari...

 

Unbelievable those income differences.

 

Dr J of De Atramentis Inks for India.... Still have to receive the exact information.... In the offer he made now dependant on quantiy ink in 35 ml glass bottles was cheaper per mililiter than inks in 250/500/1000 ml PLASTIC bottles....

 

What I can say now that the prices I have seen now are MUCH much cheaper than the MB ink price you mentioned before.

 

Because there is no for De Atramentis in India The groupbuy can get some sort of Retailer buying price dependant on quantity....

 

Well as you might know from the description on my Profile site I have a broad interest in foreign cultures...

 

Maybe we could do some snail mailing on interesting topics.

 

I will keep al of you informed on the Ink prices. Dr J will study my E-mails during te Easter Weekend

 

 

Regards,

 

Peter

Dear Peter,

 

I for one, am certainly interested in Dr. Jansen's pigment based document inks. there are very few options for these outside of Japanese makers like Platinum and Sailor and now Montblanc. Does he also make ferro-gallo-tanno inks?

 

I am not sure how many of us in India might be interested, however, to qualify as a group buy.

 

best

Hari

[Morbus Curiositas]

Dear Peter,

 

I for one, am certainly interested in Dr. Jansen's pigment based document inks. there are very few options for these outside of Japanese makers like Platinum and Sailor and now Montblanc. Does he also make ferro-gallo-tanno inks?

 

I am not sure how many of us in India might be interested, however, to qualify as a group buy.

 

best

 

Ferro Gallo is Iron Gall I suppose.... What is Tanno.

 

I konow that he produced produces IG inks and also some old recip inks....

 

I will ask him

[Morbus Curiositas]

DA Historische_Tinten_2012.pdf

Ferro Gallo is Iron Gall I suppose.... What is Tanno.

 

I konow that he produced produces IG inks and also some old recip inks....

 

I will ask him

 

[Morbus Curiositas]

Hello Hari,

 

Here are some examples of Specialty Inks De Atramentis produces.

 

Dr J ink an Inkophile and very passonianet he not only has a Book Called De Atramentis but also a book with Ink Recipes he inherited trough his Family IT was written by Franz Esser in the !8th Century.....

 

Beware The inks showed ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR FOUNTAIN PENS Dr J warns

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atrametnis%20Specialty%20Inks/DA%20Iron%20Gall_zpsvq3pvvls.jpg

 

Iron Gall Ink based on an ancient recipe

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atrametnis%20Specialty%20Inks/DA%20Kanzlei_zpspntrbpzm.jpg

 

Iron Gall Registars ink Based on a German Recpie from the 18th Century

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atrametnis%20Specialty%20Inks/chrom%20lau%20holz_zpsggtvbn5r.jpg

 

Ink made of Haematoxylum campechianum (Logwood) it is als used in medicen to colourize human tissue (Haemato-Eosine Colouring) see down here

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atrametnis%20Specialty%20Inks/300px-Emphysema_H_and_E_zpsaw7dcjfc.jpg

 

Wel If you find this interesting Dr J published a lot on Ink history on his German Websitehttp://www.die-tintenmanufaktur.de

Unfortunately these texts are in German only... but the ever friendly and passionate Dr J. Allowed me to translate them for FPN

 

My translations sofar:

 

Ink History Antiquity (sorry have to re-insert the Pictures again)

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/263795-ink-history;-the-antiquity-and-first-centuries-ad/

 

Ink History Middle Ages

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/285131-de-atramentis-ink-history-the-middle-ages/

 

Company History De Atramentis

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/262590-historia-de-atramentis/

 

More articles will follow soon...

 

like Ink History 16-17th Century and A Tranlation of Maurice Jametel's Les encrse de Chine

 

Regards

 

Peter

Edited April 2, 2015 by Morbus Curiositas

[cjpandya]

Hello Hari,

 

Here are some examples of Specialty Inks De Atramentis produces.

 

Dr J ink an Inkophile and very passonianet he not only has a Book Called De Atramentis but also a book with Ink Recipes he inherited trough his Family IT was written by Franz Esser in the !8th Century.....

 

Beware The inks showed ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR FOUNTAIN PENS Dr J warns

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atrametnis%20Specialty%20Inks/DA%20Iron%20Gall_zpsvq3pvvls.jpg

 

Iron Gall Ink based on an ancient recipe

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atrametnis%20Specialty%20Inks/DA%20Kanzlei_zpspntrbpzm.jpg

 

Iron Gall Registars ink Based on a German Recpie from the 18th Century

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atrametnis%20Specialty%20Inks/chrom%20lau%20holz_zpsggtvbn5r.jpg

 

Ink made of Haematoxylum campechianum (Logwood) it is als used in medicen to colourize human tissue (Haemato-Eosine Colouring) see down here

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atrametnis%20Specialty%20Inks/300px-Emphysema_H_and_E_zpsaw7dcjfc.jpg

 

Wel If you find this interesting Dr J published a lot on Ink history on his German Websitehttp://www.die-tintenmanufaktur.de

Unfortunately these texts are in German only... but the ever friendly and passionate Dr J. Allowed me to translate them for FPN

 

My translations sofar:

 

Ink History Antiquity (sorry have to re-insert the Pictures again)

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/263795-ink-history;-the-antiquity-and-first-centuries-ad/

 

Ink History Middle Ages

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/285131-de-atramentis-ink-history-the-middle-ages/

 

Company History De Atramentis

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/262590-historia-de-atramentis/

 

More articles will follow soon...

 

like Ink History 16-17th Century and A Tranlation of Maurice Jametel's Les encrse de Chine

 

Regards

 

Peter

 

Thanks for sharing such wealth of information Peter! Really interesting articles. It is nice to see the passion such as that of Dr. Franz. Which specific colours of the De Atramentis ink do you like personally?

[Morbus Curiositas]

 

Thanks for sharing such wealth of information Peter! Really interesting articles. It is nice to see the passion such as that of Dr. Franz. Which specific colours of the De Atramentis ink do you like personally?

 

Hi there...

 

Will post a photo with some handwritten samples tomorrow

[mehandiratta]

 

Hi there...

 

Will post a photo with some handwritten samples tomorrow

Waiting to see those...

Would really help and then certainly at can initiate later a group buy of your inks in a separate post...

[Morbus Curiositas]

Hello some extra scans of De Atramentis.

 

I love the Merlot ink made with wine and the Jane Austen/Bookworm... Kakhi come from an indian word Khka so that is a must for you I suppose

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20Front_zps0duvm5q1.jpg

 

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20page%202_zpsqra6wh3j.jpg

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20page%204_zpsiasvjoxr.jpg

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20spage%203_zpsgenik61u.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20%20q%20qtipp_zpsfuezth2s.jpg

 

down here some mixcarts by Austrlian Artist Jane Blundell for some more Permanent CMYK mix Inspiration

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/cc%205_zpsizdnkq7d.jpg

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/colour%20chart%202_zpssfy8wx3k.jpg

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/cc%206_zpsyvxxrodj.jpg

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/cc%203_zpsqt4rziry.jpg

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/Colour%20chart%201_zpsbix8wm4a.jpg

 

 

Check her website http://janeblundellart.com for more inspiration and Artworks of sheer beauty

 

 

I will post a list with links to my extensive reviews of these De Atramentis inks soon....

 

 

Regards

 

Peter

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atramentis%20MERLOT/MerlotwineinkbottlesglasspaperFPN_zpsf2c312a9.jpg

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atramentis%20MERLOT/Merlotwineink009_zps1258485d.jpg

 

 

Justt show you why I love Merlot

 

Cheers

Edited April 3, 2015 by Morbus Curiositas

[mehandiratta]

Hello some extra scans of De Atramentis.

 

I love the Merlot ink made with wine and the Jane Austen/Bookworm... Kakhi come from an indian word Khka so that is a must for you I suppose

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20Front_zps0duvm5q1.jpg

 

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20page%202_zpsqra6wh3j.jpg

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20page%204_zpsiasvjoxr.jpg

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20spage%203_zpsgenik61u.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20%20q%20qtipp_zpsfuezth2s.jpg

 

down here some mixcarts by Austrlian Artist Jane Blundell for some more Permanent CMYK mix Inspiration

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/cc%205_zpsizdnkq7d.jpg

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/colour%20chart%202_zpssfy8wx3k.jpg

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/cc%206_zpsyvxxrodj.jpg

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/cc%203_zpsqt4rziry.jpg

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/Colour%20chart%201_zpsbix8wm4a.jpg

 

 

Check her website http://janeblundellart.com for more inspiration and Artworks of sheer beauty

 

 

I will post a list with links to my extensive reviews of these De Atramentis inks soon....

 

 

Regards

 

Peter

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atramentis%20MERLOT/MerlotwineinkbottlesglasspaperFPN_zpsf2c312a9.jpg

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atramentis%20MERLOT/Merlotwineink009_zps1258485d.jpg

 

 

Justt show you why I love Merlot

 

Cheers

o wow.... amazing....i must have these....

[cjpandya]

Great! The merlot ink is beautiful!!

[Tresconik]

I quite like the orange, Merlot, and Khaki

[mehandiratta]

I will be soon going to Bangalore... Lets hope outcome is positive

[cjpandya]

I will be soon going to Bangalore... Lets hope outcome is positive

Fingers crossed! Best of luck!

[Drawing61]

Count me in for De Atramentis. I know nothing about Bril inks but would like to try the blue-black based on recomendations.

[Morbus Curiositas]

Hello Indian Fountain Pen Friends

 

 

As promised in my previous replies to this topic

I hereby insert links to all the Reviews I did on De Atramentis inks

 

They Are categorized. by General Information, tests of standard inks, test of permanent and artist inks and, general information on ink permanency and safety and articles on the history of ink

 

To make it easy for you I have inserted my previous replies as a "multi-quote"

 

I will get in touvh wiht Dr J this week to inform a bout the prices both in 35. ml glass bottles and in bottles of 25/500/1000 ML plastic bottles....(For you to divide)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

De Atramentis Ink for Ink Artists Handmade with Love

 

General De Atramentis Topics

On why I Love De Atramentis

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/262252-declaration-of-love-to-de-atramentis-inks/&sa=U&ei=gYcjVYadBIjXPO2wgfAG&ved=0CAYQFjAB&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNEzomTaBF6OxOlPbSKtX3s9dORapQ

 

De Atramentis Company History

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/262590-historia-de-atramentis/&sa=U&ei=gYcjVYadBIjXPO2wgfAG&ved=0CAQQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNFXUQ-G7GKoJ9gHXRPpWGbJbPv52w

 

 

How to obtain one or more free bottles of De Atramentis

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/273790-free-bottle-of-de-atramentis-ink/

 

Standard Inks

 

De Atramentis Jane Austen Green

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/262586-lovely-liquids-de-atramentis-jane-austen-green/

 

De Atramentis Bookworm Green ink wiht the scent of old books and ancient libraries

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/286788-de-atramentis-bookworm-read-this-you-reading-addicts/

 

De Atramentis wine Ink Merlot… Wine red ink made of Merlot wine

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/270756-de-atramentis-wine-ink-merlot/

 

De Atramentis Khaki

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/263185-lovely-liquids-de-atramentis-khaki/&sa=U&ei=C4EjVeafG8r9UpWggrAJ&ved=0CAYQFjAB&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNED0xshlCfEjqT5hQAGsQOa5pZo1w

 

 

 

 

 

Document inks and Mixing experiments

 

Ready Mixed Document Inks

 

De Atramentis document ink BLUE

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/263866-de-atramentis-document-ink/

 

De Atramentis Document Ink DARK BLUE

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/266158-de-atramentis-document-ink-dark-blue/

 

De Atramentis Document Ink BROWN & GREEN

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/270697-de-atramentis-document-inks-brown-and-green/

 

Artist ink and mixing of Document inks

 

Mixing experiment with CYMK to mix every PERMANENT colour. WITH JANE BLUNDELL COLOUR CHART

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/275148-de-atramentis-document-cmyk-inks-mixing-experiment/

 

Colour Mixing CMYK 2

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/274739-ink-colour-mixing-wiht-the-cmyk-system/

 

DE Atramentis Document Artist box

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/277866-de-atramentis-permanent-document-inks-cmyk-artists-box/

 

De Atramentis Thinning Agent for Document inks …. To mix every shade of every permanent colour

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/272906-de-atramentis-thinning-agent-for-document-inks/

 

 

 

My Ink mixes with De Atramentis Document Inks

 

Jane Blundell Permanent Teal (blue-green)

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/278782-de-atrmamentis-jane-blundell-permanent-teal/

 

Jane Blundell Permanent Umber which is appearently not umber but a very nice red-brown)

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/278711-permanent-burnt-umber-by-de-atramentis/

 

General Info Articles on Ink permanency and Safety

 

What makes an ink a permanent document ink and suitable for Registrars etc.

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/266035-on-permanent-ink-permanency-and-safety/

 

De Atramentis Difference normal and Bulletproof Document Iks

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/278016-d-a-difference-between-normal-and-bulletproof-document-inks-from-de-atramentis/

 

 

Ink Comparisons

 

De Atramentis Khaki & J.Herbin Lie de Thé Colour: Brown

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/275409-allied-forces-germany-france-khaki-lie-de-the/

 

De Atramentis Khaki, Silor Jentle Brown, Stipula Verde Muschiato Colour Brown/ Brown-Green

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/278008-germany-italy-japan-de-atramentis-stipula-sailoraxis-of-goodness/

 

De Atramentis Wine Ink Merlot & J. Herbin Terre de Feu Colour: Wine/Soil Red

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/270999-allied-forces-j-herbin-de-atramentis-terre-de-feu-merlot/

 

 

Ink History

 

Ink making in the Antiquity

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/263795-ink-history;-the-antiquity-and-first-centuries-ad/

 

Ink making in the Middle Ages

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/285131-de-atramentis-ink-history-the-middle-ages/

 

De Atramentis Company History

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/262590-historia-de-atramentis/&sa=U&ei=gYcjVYadBIjXPO2wgfAG&ved=0CAQQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNFXUQ-G7GKoJ9gHXRPpWGbJbPv52w

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/Ink%20bottles_zpsjqo494lu.jpg

 

 

Dear Indian ink Fans

 

I have been in friendly contact wiht the utterly friendly owner of De Atramentis ink.... Dr Franz Josef Jansen

 

The famous Dr J. and his wife Elke

 

How that come you can read in my topic Declaration of Love to De Atramentis https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/262252-declaration-of-love-to-de-atramentis-inks/

 

I am in no way connected to De Atramentis I just love the inks an I just love sharing my enthsiasm on nice things..... Well and does Dr J not look like your favourite Grand Dad???

 

De Atramentis is a small family run Ink Manufacture that produces over 300 handmade inks in over 70 colours!!!

 

more on the Manufacture you can find i the articel I have tranlated from the German website

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/262590-historia-de-atramentis/

 

Article on Ink making in the middle ages (my translation from German D-A-website

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/285131-de-atramentis-ink-history-the-middle-ages/

 

What can I do for you

 

Due to my contact toDr JaI was able to help peploe to get inks or samples at excellent conditions to people in every corner of the world

 

I will have to ask dr Jfor the specific conditions in this case, but from my experience so far I can tell you the following:

 

If Ordered a 100 bottles the prices are very very nice (Read low )

if ordered 500 bottles well what can I tell

 

I believe with so many people responding so far it will not be hard to reach those 100 bottles

 

Some Examples

 

I will insert the handwritten examples of some of the inks down here.. I wrote this this morning for this topic.... The links to the more extensive review of the inkswill be underneath... I will also insert some more pics. Laso from artists (they love the permanent Document inks)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/MerlotwineinkbottlesglasspaperFPN_zpshgei28j0.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/page%206_zpsgiyegvz0.jpg

 

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atramentis%20CMYK%20test%202/DACMYK2test008_zps94384e9d.jpg

 

resistance test wiht aggressive fluids

 

 

Some artwoks made withDe Atramentis Inks

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/DA%20Khaki%20and%20Havana_zpsciz3geoj.jpg

Made by Serbia Artist Milan Jovic with De Atramentis Khaki, Havanna and Gold

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/PICTOGRAMAX%20-%202014%20-%20DE%20ATRAMENTIS%20DOCUMENT%20BROWN%20-%20002%20-%20INK%20WASH_zpsdwyn07ys%201_zpsavtjieex.jpg

Also by Milan Jovic with D-A Sahra Grau, Steel Blue and Document Brown

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/jane%20art_zpsytmkufcv.jpg

 

Another use of document brown by Australian artist Jane Blundell http://www.janeblundellart.com

 

Who also made this colur chart which can be ound on her website

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/Jane%20Colour%20chart_zpsiejpnxaf.jpg

 

Mixing wiht the CMYK document inks..... Other mixes can be found on Jabe's website

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/Liz%20Steel%20De%20Atramentis_zpspzeqgzcu.jpgAnother Australian Artist LIz Steel wiht DA Document inks http://www.lizsteel.com

 

 

I will do the following

 

• Contact Dr J. for a very nice offer
• P.M. Mehandiratta wiht more info and Details
• I the near future I will publish a handwritten comparison of all De Atramentis Standard Ink

 

Over view pages with links to my more extensive ink reviews

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=user_activity&search_app=forums&mid=105475&sid=a00e2c1301e0d4d2fef6ad87fe637be1&search_app_filters[forums][searchInKey]=&userMode=title

 

Regards Peter

 

 

Hello some extra scans of De Atramentis.

 

I love the Merlot ink made with wine and the Jane Austen/Bookworm... Kakhi come from an indian word Khka so that is a must for you I suppose

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20Front_zps0duvm5q1.jpg

 

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20page%202_zpsqra6wh3j.jpg

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20page%204_zpsiasvjoxr.jpg

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20spage%203_zpsgenik61u.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/IGB%20%20q%20qtipp_zpsfuezth2s.jpg

 

down here some mixcarts by Austrlian Artist Jane Blundell for some more Permanent CMYK mix Inspiration

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/cc%205_zpsizdnkq7d.jpg

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/colour%20chart%202_zpssfy8wx3k.jpg

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/cc%206_zpsyvxxrodj.jpg

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/cc%203_zpsqt4rziry.jpg

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/Indian%20Groupbuy%200315/Colour%20chart%201_zpsbix8wm4a.jpg

 

 

Check her website http://janeblundellart.com for more inspiration and Artworks of sheer beauty

 

 

I will post a list with links to my extensive reviews of these De Atramentis inks soon....

 

 

Regards

 

Peter

 

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atramentis%20MERLOT/MerlotwineinkbottlesglasspaperFPN_zpsf2c312a9.jpg

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atramentis%20MERLOT/Merlotwineink009_zps1258485d.jpg

 

 

Justt show you why I love Merlot

 

Cheers

 

 

Hello Hari,

 

Here are some examples of Specialty Inks De Atramentis produces.

 

Dr J ink an Inkophile and very passonianet he not only has a Book Called De Atramentis but also a book with Ink Recipes he inherited trough his Family IT was written by Franz Esser in the !8th Century.....

 

Beware The inks showed ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR FOUNTAIN PENS Dr J warns

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atrametnis%20Specialty%20Inks/DA%20Iron%20Gall_zpsvq3pvvls.jpg

 

Iron Gall Ink based on an ancient recipe

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atrametnis%20Specialty%20Inks/DA%20Kanzlei_zpspntrbpzm.jpg

 

Iron Gall Registars ink Based on a German Recpie from the 18th Century

 

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atrametnis%20Specialty%20Inks/chrom%20lau%20holz_zpsggtvbn5r.jpg

 

Ink made of Haematoxylum campechianum (Logwood) it is als used in medicen to colourize human tissue (Haemato-Eosine Colouring) see down here

 

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Morbus_Curiositas/De%20Atrametnis%20Specialty%20Inks/300px-Emphysema_H_and_E_zpsaw7dcjfc.jpg

 

Wel If you find this interesting Dr J published a lot on Ink history on his German Websitehttp://www.die-tintenmanufaktur.de

Unfortunately these texts are in German only... but the ever friendly and passionate Dr J. Allowed me to translate them for FPN

 

My translations sofar:

 

Ink History Antiquity (sorry have to re-insert the Pictures again)

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/263795-ink-history;-the-antiquity-and-first-centuries-ad/

 

Ink History Middle Ages

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/285131-de-atramentis-ink-history-the-middle-ages/

 

Company History De Atramentis

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/262590-historia-de-atramentis/

 

More articles will follow soon...

 

like Ink History 16-17th Century and A Tranlation of Maurice Jametel's Les encrse de Chine

 

Regards

 

Peter