The Vanishing Point Clip location poll

[techman]

An adjustable clip would be a cool idea. Have it attached via a screwtop with notches to set where you want it. There pilot I have given you guys your next design idea.

[MDI]

What if the pen was modified in such a way that the nib was turned 180 degrees? The end tip would have to be adjusted, and so would the inner sleeve, but it would render the clip to the underside of the pen. Just a thought. It may work for those who presently cannot use the pen.

[037]

:meow: Some time ago I removed mine, the next morning the young one picked it up from the desk and said " OooH..the Happy Face pen !!!...."

So now its cleaned and put away for her, minus the clip, for her to start the FP journey in the future.

 

 

Don't like the clip? You should see Richard's post about it.

 

http://www.richardspens.com/images/ref_info/vp_clip_removal/clipless_vp.jpg

 

The stealth bomber VP!

 

[J English Smith]

I don't even notice the clip when I hold mine. How odd that it bothers some people.

[dannzeman]

Doesn't bother me.

[krom101]

I have two, and have no problems with the clip. BUT, I probably have the older models.

[Rob G]

The question should be , "If the clip position is annoying, does the convenience outweigh the annoyance?"

 

For me, the answer is yes, so far. Since I normally hold the pen (any pen) at a 30-45 degree angle to the line I'm writing, this puts the clip under my right thumb. Turning the VP so that this doesn't happen causes my hand to lean to the right ("listing to starboard", as it were). The only solution, short of removing the clip, was to use a reverse oblique. It still feels strange, but it works.

[steersbylitning]

My answer to this survey would have been Yes if I had not gotten the clip removed from my VP. It may not look quite as pretty, since you can see where the clip was attached, but the pen is now usable by my standards.

 

Debbie

 

There have been several threads about the Namiki Vanishing point pen and usually there surfaces a discussion about the location of the clip and a person's preference for the pen.

 

So here is a poll- do you not like the VP because of the clip location makes it uncomfortable or difficult tyo write with.

 

[mikey]

Ditto what Freeloader said (on both counts).

 

Although I DO like the clip of the previous faceted VP better (but like the body of the current VP better). Does that make sense?

 

Thanks,

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

Doesn't bother me a bit. Neither do the ears on the Lamy 2k.

 

[SF Susan]

I've stayed away from the Vanishing Point, but not because of the clip. If I ever buy one and the clip really bothers me, I'll remove it. I never use clips anyway.

 

The real reason I haven't bought a Vanishing Point is the size. The first time I saw them in a brick and mortar store, I was struck by how huge they looked, and I have a small hand. But I really want to try one because I like the idea of being able to get the swappable nib units from Mr. Binder. Looks like the Decimo might be a good compromise (although an expensive one).

[rogerb]

Yes, I was impressed the Decimo I saw & handled at the London Show, although I do also like my VP...apart from its meagre ink capacity.

[Peter from Sherwood Park]

I'm just getting used to the clip location as I have just acquired my first VP. It seems odd, but hasn't caused me too much trouble.

[Joe in Seattle]

i don't care for the design at all. I prefer a traditional pen

[HesNot]

Well I just pulled the trigger on another VP - this time a Sesento (decimo size) which I anticipate liking as much as my regular VP. Like the Al-Star I don't find that the clip is an issue - the indentations allow me to hold it naturally with my pointer almost on top of the pen but not quite. Heck if anything the Al-Star imposes more discipline than the VP does...

 

I am looking forward to a slightly slimmer and lighter pen, however, as my regular VP is pretty much at the outside limit of what I can tolerate weight and size wise for a daily user...

[Steven]

I have no problem with the location of the clip on my 30 year old VP. I own some of the newer ones also and have no problems with the clip on the these either since I have not inked any of them. My old VP keeps working just great and as you can see the clip blends in nicley with the body so that you don't even know it is there.

 

http://www.ssop.org/misc/Pilot-VP.jpg

Edited February 15, 2009 by Steven

[bayport714]

Clip position is not a problem for me. The position feels natural. A VP is always in my rotation.

[PatientType]

Latest bulletin: A Congressional committee has been formed to investigate the placement of the clip on the so called "Vanishing Point" pen.

 

The committee was formed after allegations were circulated that an opinion survey resulted in confusion and may have caused some voters to vote "No" when they meant "Yes" and other voters to vote "Yes" when they meant "No." Still other voters did not vote all despite their feeling the urgent need to express their convictions on the issue because they were or were not owners of the pen in question. There continues to be debate regarding whether the now infamous survey had a selection for persons who did not buy or wish to buy a "Vanishing Point" pen but didn't buy the pen for reasons other then the clip.

 

Not only was the opinion survey flawed. Some investigators now contend that the point of the "Vanishing Point" pen does not truly vanish. Instead, the pen point may be clandestinely concealed somewhere within the the pen. The House Committee on Covert Operations meeting in special session has appropriated seven billion dollars to determine whether the point of the "Vanishing Point" pen truly vanishes. If not, regulatory action may be needed to require that notices be sent to all "Vanishing Point" pen owners advising them that, contrary to manufacturer's inferred claims, the point of their pens will NOT vanish regardless of how many times pen owners may push the little button.

 

The Obama administration has commented, through sources that asked not to be identified, that Mr. Obama has no position on the controversy. An unnamed member of the the White House staff quoted the President as having said, "I've never even heard of a 'Vanishing Point' pen. Why are you bothering me with this? Can't you see I'm busy at the moment?" Republican National Committee Chairperson Michael Steele responded that this is just another indication that the Administration is out of touch with controversial issues facing the nation. Mr. Steele is quoted as saying, "If Mr. Obama contends that he has not heard of 'Vanishing Point' pen, as Americans we're entitled to know what he didn't know and when he didn't know it. The public deserves a straight answer from their Commander In Chief."

[Pen2009]

I am fine with the VP/Capless' clip position. Actually, it actually helps me hold the pen properly which helps me enjoy my other fountain pens. With non-fountain pens, you can use them without any concern on which side (if you call it a side as the pen's barrel is circular) your fingers hold the pen. But, with a fountain pen, you need to hold the pen correctly to enjoy its full potential.

[voop]

I'm recent to the VP fold, and I was very surprised by how the clip was not at all a problem -- and by how well the pen both works and writes. So while the poll question is incomprehensible , my opinion is that the VP clip is no problem and, even, helps steady my grip on the pen.

 

I've gone from a single VP to a bit more than a handful in the span of a week, so I must like it

[drej16]

I not only don't really care about the clip, I have two of the VP's! I almost always have one with me, I really like who they write.