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The Vanishing Point Clip location poll


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I don't own a VP because of the Clip location  

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  1. 1. I don't own a VP because of the Clip location

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    • No
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There have been several threads about the Namiki Vanishing point pen and usually there surfaces a discussion about the location of the clip and a person's preference for the pen.

 

So here is a poll- do you not like the VP because of the clip location makes it uncomfortable or difficult tyo write with.

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i picked up a lamy vista since i wanted one, and the style of the grip would indicate to me if i would have a problem with the VP clip placement. it works just fine with my grip, so i cant wait to get a VP.

 

the only reason i dont have one yet is money. im currently saving my pennies.

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I got one at a bargain price and thought I'd sell it. Instead, I made the mistake of using it a day... then another...

 

Ron

"Adventure is just bad planning." -- Roald Amundsen

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I have one, so I can't vote. The clip location has never been a problem for me, even when a lot of people were complaining about it before I decided to buy. I decided to buy it not because of the clip but because of the one-hand single-click action and the novel concept behind it.

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Not to seem like a jerk (can't help myself), but does "No" mean the clip position doesn't bother you, or that you don't have a Vanishing Point for some other reason?

 

Doug

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I have an old-style VP, a new-style and now a Decimo. The new style clip is a bit obtrusive, and I greatly prefer the low profile clip of the Decimo.

Best, greg

Don't feel bad. I'm old; I'm meh about most things.

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The clip position didn't bother me at all when I tried a VP at the store. It's more the bulk and length of it that bothers me. I think the proportions and weight of the Decimo will suit me better.

~ Manisha

 

"A traveller am I and a navigator, and everyday I discover a new region of my soul." ~ Kahlil Gibran

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Not to seem like a jerk (can't help myself), but does "No" mean the clip position doesn't bother you, or that you don't have a Vanishing Point for some other reason?

 

Doug

 

 

I was confused by the question myself. I voted NO because I own a VP and the clip dosen't bother me.

 

:unsure:

 

Bob

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I didn't understand the question either, so I didn't participate in the poll. I own a VP and I like it quite a bit, but wish the clip could be moved or removed.

 

Not to seem like a jerk (can't help myself), but does "No" mean the clip position doesn't bother you, or that you don't have a Vanishing Point for some other reason?

 

Doug

 

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I agree it is a confusing question.

 

Since the clip IS the reason I do not own a VP, I voted yes.

 

But I saw diffents kinds of people answering "no": those that actually OWN a VP might say "no". but those that do NOT own a VP for non-clip reasons might answer "no".

 

Therefore, it will be difficult to draw conclusions from this poll.

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Having read all the reviews and threads about the VP and its clip position, I was hesitant to buy one. But I ordered a VP anyway because of the rave reviews about its writing prowess, and I haven't looked back since. In fact, I loved writing with the VP so much that I ordered a Decimo as well. The Decimo fits more comfortably in my hand, and it has become one of my favorite writers. But I still enjoy using the VP, and it remains in my regular rotation along side the Decimo.

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I wish the clip was "built-in" to the metal piece at the front of the pen. I seem to recall there being an older model like this. It'd also be fine if the clip was moved up more. I have drawn a picture of my comparison. My "new" one is slightly uncomfortable, but not too much where I would not want to use it. I think it would be more comfortable if the metal end piece where the clip is located were to be fused, like in the "old" picture below. Maybe I am the only one who feels this way...maybe not! :D

 

~~K~~

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~~K~~=Kyle

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The question seems quite straightforward to me. It's directed at people who don't own a VP. Why don't they own one - is it because of the clip position?

 

Yes - that's right, I don't own one because of the clip position.

No - that's not the reason I don't own one.

 

Clear now?

Col

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The question seems quite straightforward to me. It's directed at people who don't own a VP. Why don't they own one - is it because of the clip position?

 

Yes - that's right, I don't own one because of the clip position.

No - that's not the reason I don't own one.

 

Clear now?

 

Obviously it is NOT clear, because Bobioden has already posted that he voted NO although he OWNS a VP. HDoug also posted that he felt the wording is confusing.

 

You say that "it's directed at people who don't own a VP," and that's probably true, but it doesn't say so in the poll. Therefore, people like Bobioden will participate in the poll even though they may own a VP, thus confusing the results.

 

Although I interpret the poll as you do, I believe it is a poorly worded question and the fact that Bobioden (and possibly others) participated despite owning a VP shows how confusing the wording is.

 

It is the responsibility of the poster/poll generator to make the wording as clear as possible.

 

 

 

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I like VP very much (my last purchased pen - ten days ago)

the position of the clip forces me to hold the pen correctly.

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You say that "it's directed at people who don't own a VP," and that's probably true, but it doesn't say so in the poll.

The topic title clearly states: 'I don't own a VP because...'

Col

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You say that "it's directed at people who don't own a VP," and that's probably true, but it doesn't say so in the poll.

The topic title clearly states: 'I don't own a VP because...'

 

Well, not to pound this thing into the ground, but I also answered "No" in response to "I don't own a VP..." because I own one. I do appreciate the pollster's attempt at finding out how much the clip location has to do with not owning a VP, but the current poll results are probably suspect unless we accept that an overwhelming proportion of people who don't own a VP aren't bothered by the clip location and don't like something else about it.

 

I think Pilot knows that the clip location is a major inhibitor to wider sales because the designs of the more recent Decimo and Fermo (click for my review) both attempt to minimize the intrusion of the clip. But I also think that the VP/Capless line is one of their hot sellers because of the varieties they make available. (Has anyone seen this "marble" finish VP?)

 

Since there may be a sizable number of folk who would buy a VP (or several) if only the clip were less intrusive, I'm thinking we may see a VP with either some kind of "retractable" clip (that retracted as the nib extended) or allowed the user to rotate it out of the way (kind like the Parker 75 rotating nib idea). That's interesting to contemplate, no?

 

Anyway, let's all be friends. No need starting wars on Memorial Day...

 

Doug

 

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Anyway, let's all be friends. No need starting wars on Memorial Day.

Not quite sure why you felt the need to say that, Doug - there was no unfriendly or war-like intent in either of my responses.

 

Col

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