Old Hat? Mabie Todd Colour Codes

[Cob]

A thorny one this - and probably a hardy perenniel for all I know. Does anyone have Stephen Hull's WES piece concerning Mabiie Todd's colour codes? I have done a search without any success.

 

I know a few of them, but am a bit puzzled with a recent purchase. It is a Calligraph stamped 3250. Now 50 was always green (or at least I thought so) until this one arrived; it is brown. For example, I have a late 1920s/early 1930s 230/50; this is jade!

 

20 was dark blue, 30 was grey, 60 is black, 70 is light blue. A few more: 52 early is Lapis, later blue/black marble, 42 is blue marble, 45 grey marble, 53 blue/bronze marble, 58 marine bronze, 59 Italian marble, and 64 amber mist. And that is more or less the lot off the top of my head!

 

My two "64s":

 

 

Rgds

 

Cob

Edited November 28, 2014 by Cob

[Happy Harry]

3250...3=model/shape 2=nib size 5=color 0=material.

In colors 2= dark blue 3=grey 4=dark green 5= brown 6=black

 

Material 0=plastic 1 =BHR and there's a 2 (or a 5) that I've seen on black pens and don't what it is but casein is a possibility.

 

This same basic numbering seems to fit the post war 2,3,4 and 6 shapes although there are some marbled 6 models.

 

There's a few 3 shapes around, the 3170, 3171 etc are cheaper near end models where the last two numbers seem to be related to color only.

 

Your is from near the end of MT.

[Cob]

3250...3=model/shape 2=nib size 5=color 0=material.

In colors 2= dark blue 3=grey 4=dark green 5= brown 6=black

 

Material 0=plastic 1 =BHR and there's a 2 (or a 5) that I've seen on black pens and don't what it is but casein is a possibility.

 

This same basic numbering seems to fit the post war 2,3,4 and 6 shapes although there are some marbled 6 models.

 

There's a few 3 shapes around, the 3170, 3171 etc are cheaper near end models where the last two numbers seem to be related to color only.

 

Your is from near the end of MT.

Thanks for that.

 

I have seen dark red pens too but cannot recall what number they carried.

 

Interesting about 2 or 5 material numbers; I must say that casein seems unlikely, at least at that time. Perhaps they were newly-introduced plastics - i.e. other than celluloid?

 

Cob