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Hey all,

 

So I've always been partial to all chrome/"white metal" pens since buying my first "real" pen -- a Sheaffer Javelin. I'm thinking of introducing a new branch to my collection of these pens and I'm asking for assistance in gathering alternatives.

 

There are four limiting parameters: 1) the pen cannot have gold furniture (i.e., it must have chrome/rhodium trim), 2) the pen must have a gold nib/gold nib option available (rhodium plated), and 3) the pen needs to be relatively affordable (i.e., no limited editions, YoLs are probably out, too).

 

Here are those that I've found so far:

 

- Lamy 2000M

- Lamy Studio Stainless Steel

- Lamy Studio Palladium (I own this pen)

- Lamy Studio Platinum

- Lamy CP1 Stainless Steel

- Lamy Logo Stainless Steel

- Lamy Dialog 3 Palladium

- Sheaffer Legacy Heritage Deep Cut Palladium (I own this pen)

- Waterman Carene Essential Silver

- Parker Premier Titanium

- Cross Townsend Platinum Plated

- Pilot Silverns

 

Any others to add to the list would be greatly appreciated as well as thoughts on the above list and/or suggested pens that you own or have had experience with.

 

Thanks!

 

Paul

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Ouch...this made it to page 3 without a single post. I can't find a similar thread like this on FPN -- there has to be other palladium/platinum/chrome/rhodium/silver pen fans out there...

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Hi,

 

I'll add the Parker Sonnet and the 45.

 

In addition there are many Parker pens, referred to as 'Flighters'', that are available with steel cap and barrel, but few had both steel and gold-alloy nib options e.g. 21 Super (hooded Octanium), 25 (only steel nib), 51 (only g-a nibs, but those are hooded), 61 (only hooded g-a), 75 (only g-a) ...

 

Sheaffer also brought us the 444 which might be fitted with an Imperial section with a g-a nib, some Targas & Imperials, plus others. The Prelude would qualify if it was offered with g-a nibs, though the two-tone steel nibs might suit.

 

Cross offered/s some as well. (Are their g-a nibs white gold?)

 

The original rotring 600 came with both steel and g-a nibs, but I can testify those are far from ergonomic, and the g-a nib pens are seldom seen in the market.

 

Ah, oddly enough I cannot recall any such from Asia that would not likely breach your cost constraint; and most of the steel nib models that come to mind have gold-plated nibs. (?) Though perhaps a Pilot Metropolitan can be retro-fitted with a g-a nib. :)

 

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Caran d'Ache Ecridor - not a gold nib but nice writers

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SdUD1Kv1SeI/UBKt8uR_7ZI/AAAAAAAAAW8/n8ubUSqt8rc/s1600/IMG_0831.JPG

 

I also own a Profili. It's not all metal but it does have a gold nib. They're difficult to find so that might cancel it as a alternative.

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I think the Jinhao X750 in Silver may qualify. You can pick up a #6 gold nib to put on it after-market though it is not sold as such.

would sooner get a Pilot Metropolitan in a white or silver finish. But alas no gold nib option, an the gold isn't that important unless you're planning on using caustic inks (most of which aren't usually fountain pen friendly to begin with).

 

The only pen I have that's White/Silver (both cap and endcap is metal silver painted) is my Sailor Pocket pen with a 14K gold nib.

 

But... it's got gold trims and gold stars.

 

http://static.karlblessing.com/pens/sailor_star/uncapped2.jpg

 

And the Pilot Elite Lady with an 18K Fine... which would only count if it was silver/white instead of Taupe (and didn't have a coral section... and didn't have gold trim)

 

http://static.karlblessing.com/pens/pilotelite/lady/capped.jpg

 

http://static.karlblessing.com/pens/pilotelite/lady/uncapped.jpg

 

But they do make it in a silver finish with a white or egg-white section/grip... but it's still probably going to have a gold clip/trim. Price wise though both are south of $50. Typically. (Come to think of it I don't think I've seen many pens on the Japanese side that are gold nibbed, white/silver/chrome bodied and no [yellow] gold trim/clip).

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On the opposite end of price spectrum, Nakaya Titanium Piccolo and long discontinued Montblanc Solitaire 146 Stainless Steel.

 

Have you thought about the weight? Some metal pens are pretty heavy. I am into "white metal" bodies pens like you.

 

I have had above mentioned Montblanc 146 Stainless Steel (which was my grail pen but ended up returning - long story) and have Waldmann Manager in sterling silver which is sitting in my drawer gathering dust after being inked once. Both were way too heavy for me.

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Thanks for the suggestions thus far. The gold nib and no gold furniture parameters are to assist in containing expenditures and to bring some harmony to the collection.

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On the opposite end of price spectrum, Nakaya Titanium Piccolo and long discontinued Montblanc Solitaire 146 Stainless Steel.

 

Have you thought about the weight? Some metal pens are pretty heavy. I am into "white metal" bodies pens like you.

 

I have had above mentioned Montblanc 146 Stainless Steel (which was my grail pen but ended up returning - long story) and have Waldmann Manager in sterling silver which is sitting in my drawer gathering dust after being inked once. Both were way too heavy for me.

 

I like metal bodied pens in general (i.e., constructed from brass), and assumed that most have a simple metal overlay, similar to lacquer. I don't have experience with all silver pens or stainless steel pens, but I imagine they're significantly heavier (e.g., the Lamy 2000M).

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Pilot has a bunch of older pens that have a metal finish but no gold nib. (Like this) and there is the Pilot Knight.

 

There is a Namiki vintage pen that seems to while metal that is some times seen floating around the bay. Not sure about the nib it looks gold but it can be gold plated.

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I like metal bodied pens in general (i.e., constructed from brass), and assumed that most have a simple metal overlay, similar to lacquer. I don't have experience with all silver pens or stainless steel pens, but I imagine they're significantly heavier (e.g., the Lamy 2000M).

 

I have Parker 21 Super Flighter (stainless steel) and Worther Compact (aluminum) fountain pens; both are not heavy at all and are wonderful writers. So not all metal-bodied pens are heavy. I think the type of refill system contributes to the weight. My heavy pens were all piston-fillers.

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Jerome Tarshis

The original Aurora Hastil in stainless steel. White 14K gold nib. The section is of black plastic.

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A few that might meet your fancy.

 

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A few that might meet your fancy.

 

 

What are their average prices and model #? (though it's easy to spot the YOL, and the box stating Montegrappa).

 

Also I'm curious what the Op's definition of relatively affordable is? From the list I'm guessing $350 and under?

 

Course at that price there's the Pilot Murex and Myu

 

http://stutler.cc/pens/murex/index.html

 

http://stutler.cc/pens/murex/images/m90.JPG

 

http://stutler.cc/pens/murex/images/sizes_compared.JPG

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What are their average prices and model #? (though it's easy to spot the YOL, and the box stating Montegrappa).

 

 

From the top:

 

Yard-o-Led Viceroy Grand Victorian

ST Dupont XL Olympio/Orpheo Placed Lacquer

Yard-o-Led Viceroy Grand Barleycorn

Yard-o-Led Corinthian

Yard-o-Led Viceroy Grand Victorian

Yard-o-Led Viceroy Pocket Victorian

Smythson (Yard-o-Led) Standard Lined

Montegrappa 302

Montegrappa 80th. Anniversary

Montegrappa Heritage

Montegrappa Juliet

Montegrappa Eleganza

Montegrappa Privilege

Montegrappa Privilege Deco

 

I fear I have no idea of current prices.

 

Here are a few more that might be interesting.

 

Sheaffer Legacy Heritage Victorian

http://www.fototime.com/5FECC70AAA809E8/large.jpg

ST Dupont Fidelio

http://www.fototime.com/E7EC0EA718BCDCB/medium800.jpg

Montegrappa Round Reminiscence

http://www.fototime.com/85F7E15B57D6771/medium800.jpg

Caran d'Ache Ecridor Retro

http://www.fototime.com/537F6681C1019C8/medium800.jpg

Ferrari da Varese Botticelli

http://www.fototime.com/DFF209ED3DB9153/medium800.jpg

Again, sorry but I have no idea of current prices.

 

Also, Sheaffer made quite a few models in both GT (Gold Trim) or CP (Chrome Trim). For example the lower pen in the following picture is a Targa 1006X Sterling silver Check pattern but was also available as the 1006 which had chrome plated furniture.

 

http://www.fototime.com/B97FF4FD9FAC83E/standard.jpg

 

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I second Sheaffer Targa, and would add Sheaffer Prelude. Both have models in chrome/brushed steel trim with steel nibs, in addition to models with gold or two toned nibs. You can replace the steel nib with a gold nib (Targa) or a two tone nib (Prelude).

Both pen are less expensive than many of the other suggested pens.

Dan

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Liking the overall look of the Ecridor Retro. Is there a common name for the kind of clip it has on there with the little rolling donut looking thing?

 

I think you may be one picture off since the labels were on the top of the pictures. The Caran d'Ache Ecridor has a very simple spring loaded clip while the Montegrappa Reminiscence has the roller clip. The Reminiscence came in both the round form and an octagonal version, in plain Sterling silver or vermeil and either a plain finish or guilloche.

 

http://www.fototime.com/E1DCB57D6112A4A/medium800.jpg

 

There were also two sizes, the regular as seen above and a slim version similar to the Juliet.

 

http://www.fototime.com/466C89CEB79C411/medium800.jpg

 

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My first and last Chrome pen a Waterman Graduate was a finger print trap.

Never again.

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German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

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