pen69 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 can anyone help meI find no info on these pen attach photos have written patent 508 058are new to the forumI have many pens Link to post Share on other sites
yus2001fr Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) From my point of view, they are fake but I don't consider me as an expert. It could be the work of a jeweller but I doubt.The finitions are low, and I don't recognize the model. The second nib is like a simple "iridium point", and in this case not a MB.I wait the opinion of the experts like Maxpens, Tom Westerlich or Michael R. Regards. Edited October 27, 2014 by yus2001fr http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/petitdauphinzele/midnightblue-1.pngaka Petitdauphinzele Link to post Share on other sites
pen69 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 I put nibs Link to post Share on other sites
jar Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Welcome home. Pull up a stump and set a spell. Unfortunately I too think what you have are Eastern Europe made fakes and not even very rare ones. My Website Link to post Share on other sites
penswordnoassemblyrequired Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 As someone who had relatives murdered in the Holocaust, I wouldn't even touch this thing. Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweco Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) quote:................<<I have many pens>>............./quote SO IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD FOR YOU TO SHOW ONE OR ANOTHER OF YOUR OTHER PENS AND NOT THIS UGLY TRASH!!!Kind Regards Edited October 27, 2014 by Kaweco Link to post Share on other sites
Cyber6 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 As someone who had relatives murdered in the Holocaust, I wouldn't even touch this thing. I also have very close relative who perished in concentration camps. My dad escape by sheer luck. But I do find the pen rather intriguing.. .Would I buy it? .. NO... but I would certainly like to know its history. If it is a fake.. it seems a very old fake to me... C. **** BauerInks.ca ******** MORE.... Robert Oster Signature INKS ******** NICK STEWART - KWZI INKs TEST ****"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking, Link to post Share on other sites
jebib111 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Well if this is a troll, you got to admit they went to a lot of effort to be annoying. But as far as fit and finish I don't know? Link to post Share on other sites
Biber Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Seems to me something like this has been presented here before and the consensus was that it was purely a fantasy pen and not authentic to MB. I could be wrong in my recollection though. "What? What's that? WHAT?!!! SPEAK UP, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!" - Ludwig van Beethoven. Link to post Share on other sites
Wahl Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Seems like a total fake. Link to post Share on other sites
aawhite Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) I read once (in this forum) that the Nazis did not allow their logos to be used for such purposes. I looked into this claim and it appears to had merit. The MB looks like a fake. Edited October 28, 2014 by aawhite I only have two pens - an Aurora Optima and others. Link to post Share on other sites
Wahl Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 A friend of mine who collects historical pens owns the FP used by Von Ribbentrop who was the Foreing Minister of the III Reich (Yes, it is thorougly documented). It is a plain black Montblanc without any kind of symbols. Link to post Share on other sites
londonbooks Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 A friend of mine who collects historical pens owns the FP used by Von Ribbentrop who was the Foreing Minister of the III Reich (Yes, it is thorougly documented). It is a plain black Montblanc without any kind of symbols. If it were me with that pen I would take a blow-torch to it. Link to post Share on other sites
revrobholley Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 As someone who had relatives murdered in the Holocaust, I wouldn't even touch this thing.I second that. Yuck! Link to post Share on other sites
Parker51 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I agree that are fakes, but I do not believe they are beyond twenty years old. Likely produced in the 90s. Design more reminiscent of late 80s than 30s and material incorrect as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Oranges and Apples Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 http://www.maxpens.de/bilder/vintagefakes02.htm Link to post Share on other sites
Oranges and Apples Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/172619-is-this-a-rare-nazi-pen-or-a-fake/ Link to post Share on other sites
Oranges and Apples Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 An quick Google search is all it takes. Due diligence is what it is called, I believe. Link to post Share on other sites
FarmBoy Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Pen69,Your pens are documented several places as fakes. Sorry. San Francisco International Pen Show - They have dates! August 23-24-25, 2019 AND August 28-29-30, 2020. Book your travel and tables now! My PM box is usually full. Just email me: my last name at the google mail address. Link to post Share on other sites
Chiyoko Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Sorry, but I do have to say they must be fakes. asian ink brushhttp://asianinkbrush.tumblr.com Link to post Share on other sites
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