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Hi I could really use your help. I bought a Sailor 1911 Large with M nib. I, however, don't think the nib is a round M as it should be, the tipping is very strange, reminds me of Naginata togi or Zoom, even though the marking H-M is there. It writes as Zoom does, meaning the line gets thinner the more you angle the pen. It is quite scratchy as well, more so with higher angles.

Could this possibly be a mishap at the factory? Is this how regular round Sailor looks like?

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PS: I am comparing it to another Japanese gold: Platinum President, M nib. Quite a standard looking tipping for a round M on the Platinum, very different from the Sailor. All of my other M-nibbed pens are similar to the Platinum. The Sailor looks and writes differently.

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Sailor nibs are ground different.

WTB Sheaffer Balance oversized with a flex nib, semi flex, broad, or medium in carmine red or grey striated.

 

Wtb Sheaffer Pfm in black or blue with a medium or broad nib.

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Your Sailor M nib is not a factory mistake. Sailor nibs are ground with a 'foot' - that is the slightly flattened portion of the tipping. It is normal for Sailor nibs.

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Ok, that's great to hear, thanks for the replies. I wouldn't have doubt the nib if it performed well but it kind of digs into the paper. Then I looked at some pictures (example: http://edjelley.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/8365670902_7332321026_o.jpg) and saw the tipping is indeed very different.

 

Fortunately or unfortunately it is a genuine sailor nib (with traditional grounding) :P

If you see perhaps an octahedron or something like that in the tip, that's the sailor nib from japan :P

Below is a Naginata nib, it is much more forgiving to slight changes in pressure than the usual sailor nibs IME.

 

The sailors sold by professionals like CFP are tuned and smoothened, so may render a much smoother + different experience. Having said that and my love-hate experience with sailor, the nibs sent for US markets (particularly those on cross peerless 125) are quite conducive to our styles of writing, while still retaining the sailor charm :)

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The Medium and Broad nibs are an acquired taste, absolutely nothing conventional. Not my 'usual' rounded, smooth grind.

 

But it offers control and precision. I cannot seem to write fast or big with them.

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Fortunately or unfortunately it is a genuine sailor nib (with traditional grounding) :P

If you see perhaps an octahedron or something like that in the tip, that's the sailor nib from japan :P

Below is a Naginata nib, it is much more forgiving to slight changes in pressure than the usual sailor nibs IME.

 

The sailors sold by professionals like CFP are tuned and smoothened, so may render a much smoother + different experience. Having said that and my love-hate experience with sailor, the nibs sent for US markets (particularly those on cross peerless 125) are quite conducive to our styles of writing, while still retaining the sailor charm :)

 

 

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My Sailor pro gear's H-M nib looks exaclty like that; it's a pleasure to use, and to behold :wub: .

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Is the Sailor KOP medium (and broad) nib ground like that too?

 

Found them a bit more rounded than usual sailor nibs + a relatively wet flow, with whatever I have wrote with.

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Softer nibs will almost certainly be more round because of the change in pressure, if you think about it. Angled nibs such as on Sailors non-KoP pens are only suited to nibs that are stiff as changes in pressure will change how the grind meets the paper.

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