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I have a bottle of Noodlers Ottoman Azure and I really love the color. However I have been having a problem with the dry time of the ink on Midori Travellers Notebook Ultrathin paper. The ink can take up to 10 minutes to dry completely.

 

Has anyone else had experience with this ink in the Travellers Notebook?

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Well that is the funny thing. On cheaper copier paper the ink is great. Dries pretty fast and works well. On the more expensive 'fountain pen friendly' paper it takes for ever to dry. Has anyone used this on Rhodia paper? What is the dry time like on that paper?

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ok this is now going to be a mighty pen+ink+paper combination

considering Rhodia is kind of coated... you will have more drying times to consider however I don not own any noodler's inks... ITS RARELY RESTOCKED and the inks i want are normally firsts ones to go bye bye

however have you tried using a more dry writing pen? unless you only have 1 pen...

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This is going to be my next experiment with the ink. When I am ready to flush one of my other pens I am going to try and see if the pen is part of the problem. Thanks for the feedback.

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I don't know this specific ink, but I do know that certain of Noodler's inks take a long time to dry on some of the higher quality papers. The reason is that they sit on top of the paper instead of soaking in.

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I use Noodler's Ottoman Azure ink daily to write on Clairfontaine foundtain pen friendly paper. Yes, it is a rather wet ink and the dry time is long. But the ink colour is simply beautiful. Don't think there is any problem with your pen. This ink just takes longer to dry.

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I wanted to love OA - but it kicked my caboose - I gave up on it and moved on to other blues. The color is very pretty. Eel blue gets a bad reputation for slow dry time, but for me - in the desert - 'twas not an issue.

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I use Noodler's Ottoman Azure ink daily to write on Clairfontaine foundtain pen friendly paper. Yes, it is a rather wet ink and the dry time is long. But the ink colour is simply beautiful. Don't think there is any problem with your pen. This ink just takes longer to dry.

 

Thank you for the info. Its good to know.

 

How do you go about writing on multiple pages when you are still waiting for the ink to dry?

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I've had a sample of Ottoman Azure, but never a bottle, and I don't remember any drying time issues. However, I will offer you my standard advice for Noodler's vis-a-vis longer drying times and other potential misbehaviors:

 

1. Try diluting the ink. Depending on the filling system, you can do this in the pen, or, better yet, prepare a sample vial with a given dilution (say 3 parts ink to 1 part water or even 2 parts ink to 1 part water). You might be surprised how well this works.

2. If it takes a long time to dry and it has been in the pen for more than a week, consider flushing and refilling the pen. Drying times with the conventional Noodler's inks often seems to lengthen after the pen has been inked for a couple of weeks or more. This may be due to evaporation in the feed over-concentrating the ink, so you might also consider diluting the ink in the feed by dipping the nib in water and capping the pen to give the ink and water time to mix throughout the feed.

 

I'm not guaranteeing that this will work with Ottoman Azure, but it's cheap to try, and with other highly saturated inks it seems to work for me.

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  • 6 years later...

*Necro bump*

 

I also have a bottle of this ink, and I've used other Noodler's inks before (Black, 54th Massachusetts etc.). This one of mine particularly has some serious flow issues. It's like the ink doesn't want to go out of the pen at all! With fine (Japanese medium) nibs, it's almost impossible to write. With bold nibs, it writes like a fine ink.

 

Anyone having similar issues with this particular ink ?

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It's hard to know whether it is a bad bottle or a reformulation given Noodler's ink variability but my 10+ year old (I don't write nearly enough for all the inks and pens I have) bottle of Ottoman Azure flows beautifully in Parker 45s (I've tried it in two different ones). The nibs I've used are the fine and the accountant, i.e. narrow. It, like many Noodler's inks, can be rather slow drying coming from a wet pen or wide nib. That does make them great for taking notes in meetings as long as you can manage to avoid sweeping your hand across the paper. The drying problem is greater on less absorbent, quality papers like Rhodia but for taking notes on Ampad or Staples pads they work well (usually one side of paper only though).

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Thanks for the feedback @Sholom. It's appreciated.

 

Possibly, I got a bad batch from Amazon USA. I purchased from overseas, and it's hard to get a replacement or a second bottle considering all the tax and shipment price if buying alone.

 

I have lubricated the ink with glycerin (a tiny drop of dishwashing soap), it's floating became better with broader nibs (I generally use finer nibs), however, there's still this weird feel on the ink since from the start, like the ink wants to suppress (the opposite of spreading) into the center of the area I write to. It makes writing quite unenjoyable with the ink.

 

This "suppressing" effect happens both on cheap copy paper and Rhodia dotpad.

 

My Noodler's 54th Massachusetts, and the bulletproof black which I finished didn't have these weird issues.

 

Also, weirdly, even with my lubrication, I have no issues with the ink's drying time, which makes me think my batch is faulty even more.

 

I would appreciate if you guys could suggest similar colors to this particular blue.

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Try thoroughly cleaning out your pen and then refilling it with Ottoman Azure before you give up on the bottle. Make sure there is no slime in the bottle too, although that is less likely with Noodlers than with some other brands; if there is something gooey in there, return the bottle as it is spoiled. Although I have not personally used it, Diamine ASA Blue looks similar in the reviews. Monteverde Horizon Blue and Noodlers Eel Blue look a drop lighter and and less greenish to my eyes, but from personal experience are both quite nice. Other possibilities that I am not personally familiar with look to be KWZ Azure #5, Diamine Florida Blue (too light?), Rohrer and Klingner Blau Permanent (permanent meaning in the German sense of not erasable with 'erasing fluid" but definitely not waterproof, and also a bit lighter), DeAtramis Steel Blue (too green?), and Pilot Blue. Diamine Majestic Blue does not have enough green tinge in it to be a replacement. Do search the forums as the question has come up multiple times. In particular, have a look at

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/330051-looking-for-a-replacement-for-noodlers-ottoman-azure/?tab=comments#comment-3957291

 

I don't believe there is anything exactly like a good bottle of Ottoman Azure but Nathan Tardif of Noodlers once said that Ottoman Azure was one of his hardest colors to reproduce accurately from batch to batch. Hopefully others will chime in too.

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@SholomWow, thanks for the through reply and suggestions! Diamine ASA Blue looks quite nice to my eye, and we have a distributor here, so I'll definitely be checking them. Sadly, there is no distributor or stationary store online that sells Noodlers, Monteverde, KWZ and R&K here as far as I know. I'll try to add them in my next order

 

I clean my pens regularly, and this happens on 5 of my pens, within a range of European B to Japanese F nibs. So I don't believe there's an issue with my pens.

 

There was no goo or any kind of blob or weird stuff in the bottle.

 

I lubricated a little bit more with a tiny drop of dishwashing soap, and with bold nibs, it's became better to write with. With my sample, if I lubricated more, it'd start to flush out of my pens, so I can't do more.

 

Possibly, I got double unlucky and got a bad batch which was stored in a bad condition.

 

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