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The GP band next to the clip on the section is only on the 144

 

The older 144 FP.s came with monotone gold nibs. So this looks good for an earlier 144. It should work with a cartridge or a Mb converter after a thorough soaking or maybe a clean in an ultrasonic bath if you have one or know a jeweller who does.

 

I think it will need a push in converter.

Chrissy, thank you for this! Just saw your post (I've been tied up all day). I'm relieved to know that there are monotone 144 nibs.

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yes they began to stamp serial numbers 4th quarter of 1990 around the same time they changed to 'Germany'

 

afterwards around 1995ish or 1997 they added 'Pix' to the clip interior

 

The nib looked proper Two tone although,

 

some 14k nibs have 'StOD' stamp its in a circle and the t or o either has a line through it.

 

 

and this forum is CONTAGIOUS. because you will buy buy and buy great pens at discount you could find a 149 for 300 to 400 bucks here rather than paying full retail price + tax at bontique :D

 

and there is many awesome vintage pens with a decent price tag here too!

 

I LOVE this forums, i wish there is an app for iphone although

I wish there was an iPhone app, too--though then I would NEVER pass the bar!

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do you live way out in the hill country or something? <-- Texas too

 

and some 144 did have monotone gold yes, chrissy should vouch because i never had a 144 before

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'The Yo-Yo maneuver is very difficult to explain. It was first perfected by the well-known Chinese fighter pilot Yo-Yo Noritake. He also found it difficult to explain, being quite devoid of English.

So we left it at that. He showed us the maneuver after a sort. B*****d stole my kill.'

-Squadron Leader K. G. Holland, RAF. WWII China.

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do you live way out in the hill country or something? <-- Texas too

 

and some 144 did have monotone gold yes, chrissy should vouch because i never had a 144 before

I actually live in Tennessee now, though I was born out in the Panhandle. We moved around a bit, but I went to UT for college. Still have family in Austin. I love the Hill Country. What part of the Great State of Texas are you in?

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Dallas area,

'The Yo-Yo maneuver is very difficult to explain. It was first perfected by the well-known Chinese fighter pilot Yo-Yo Noritake. He also found it difficult to explain, being quite devoid of English.

So we left it at that. He showed us the maneuver after a sort. B*****d stole my kill.'

-Squadron Leader K. G. Holland, RAF. WWII China.

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As stated above you have a 144 from sometime in 80's to early 90's. I have one from late 70's to early 80's that has germany on clip ring not w-germany. If the barrel thread is plastic you will need a push on converter The montblanc push on is somewhat difficult to come by.

A number of standard European converters fit BUT make sure you try before you buy as they can be to long ,to wide etc.

The waterman converter fits but make sure it seats on nipple securely as mine is a little loose but ok.

I use long Waterman cartridges as they are a perfect fit and easier to come by than montblanc cartridges.

Parker , lamy, sheaffer will not fit.

I do not know how hard it is to get syringes over there but what I did was take a cartridge to the pharmacy tell them that I wanted a syringe to refill it and they gave me for $3 a pack of 5 throwaways including the used container.

 

Great little pens

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The nib has metal threading, not resin. Does that help ID the year better? What year did Montblanc stop putting "W Germany" on the clips and begin using "Germany" instead?

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It's a pretty blue. "W. Germany" would mean "pre-1989, at least". "585" means "0.585 x 24 karat gold, or 14K" .

"MEISTERSTUCK" should have a shortened letter "U", with the rest of the height made-up by two dots (umlaut),

a German punctuation.

Auf freiem Grund mit freiem Volke stehn.
Zum Augenblicke dürft ich sagen:
Verweile doch, du bist so schön !

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The nib has metal threading, not resin. Does that help ID the year better? What year did Montblanc stop putting "W Germany" on the clips and begin using "Germany" instead?

 

I understand w-germany was used from around 1982 to early / mid 1990's .Not sure what you meant by nib has metal threading. I was referring to the thread the upper barrel that covers the cartridge screws onto. If it is metal it may take the current screw in converter. I did not know that monotone nibs were bring used on the later 144's

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