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2 P51's Found In The Wild - What To Do Next?


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Honestly, I’m not a P51 fan, I hate the hooded nib design but I couldn’t help taking these from the local flea market (the (in)famous Waterlooplein fleamarket in Amsterdam).

 

Both:

Approximately 13,5 cm long (capped)

A sort of mother of pearl like tassie on the cap, no imprints on the cap.

ETA: the caps seem aluminium but I'm not sure on that

The same filling system, identified as ‘black band’.

 

Best one:

A very dark red, burgundy, I guess

The somewhat faded inscription on the barrel near the barrel clutch reads:

PARKER ‘51’

REG TM 540224

MADE IN ENGLAND

At the point of the arrow some finish (chrome?) seems to be chipped off

Dipped and writing smooth.

 

The other one:

Some blue-green, barrel is bulged with a black discoloration. Inscription

 

“Parker 51”

T7 (with two dots under the T)

Made in USA

 

The arrow on the clip is broken off.

Dipped but not writing at all, the nib seems disaligned to me.

 

Except that I’m starting with the study of OcalaFlGuys pinned thread (big thanks for that!) – any wisdom on what to do next with them? Given that I paid 15€ for the couple – what restoration costs are reasonable?

 

ETA: the best one is very similar to this one, except that the cap has no imprint:

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/PARKER-51-CORDOVAN-BROWN-LUSTRALOY-CAP-VACUMATIC-FOUNTAIN-PEN-BROAD-NIB-/161307597333?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PensPencils_WritingEquipment_SM&hash=item258eae9a15

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Some pics, even decent phone pics of the pens and caps would be helpful.

 

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

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Base restoration costs vary from repairer to repairer, but are typically ~USD40 for the filling system alone (replacing the diaphragm, giving it a good clean, etc).

 

As for other damage on miscellaneous components, it's best to approach a repairer directly and inquire after potential costs. I'm not aware if repairers are able to eliminate deformation in the Lucite (though given the magic that many repairers are able to weave, it's quite possible they could!), I would think they'd just toss the barrel and replace it with the very many available spares. Of course, you do lose out on the barrel imprint.

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Base restoration costs vary from repairer to repairer, but are typically ~USD40 for the filling system alone (replacing the diaphragm, giving it a good clean, etc).

 

As for other damage on miscellaneous components, it's best to approach a repairer directly and inquire after potential costs. I'm not aware if repairers are able to eliminate deformation in the Lucite (though given the magic that many repairers are able to weave, it's quite possible they could!), I would think they'd just toss the barrel and replace it with the very many available spares. Of course, you do lose out on the barrel imprint.

 

I agree. I don't believe the bulging in the barrel is reversible. That pen will probably need a new barrel, which will cost around $30. I had a Vac 51 with bulging and Danny Fudge just replaced the barrel for me.

 

Most likely that "blue-green" pen is either Cedar Blue or actually a discolored Dove Gray model. The Dove Gray color didn't hold up as well with aging and exposure to the elements as other 51 colors. To restore the filling system and adjust the nib it will probably cost another $30-$45. A new clip around $10-$15.

 

The silver colored caps of 51s could be a number of materials: steel (Lustraloy), sterling silver (marked "Sterling") or rolled silver (marked R. Silver and only available on English-made 51s).

 

The English 51 will be an Aerometric fill and may not require any professional restoration, but just a thorough disassembly and cleaning.

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Parker: Sonnet Flighter, Rialto Red Metallic Laque, IM Chiseled Gunmetal, Latitude Stainless, 45 Black, Duovac Blue Pearl Striped, 51 Standard Black, Vac Jr. Black, 51 Aero Black, 51 Vac Blue Cedar, Duofold Jr. Lapis, 51 Aero Demi Black, 51 Aero Demi Teal, 51 Aero Navy Gray, Duofold Pastel Moire Violet, Vac Major Golden Brown, Vac Deb. Emerald, 51 Vac Dove Gray, Vac Major Azure, Vac Jr. Silver Pearl, 51 Vac Black GF Cap, 51 Forest Green GF cap, Vac Jr. Silver Pearl, Duovac Senior Green & Gold, Duovac Deb. Black, Challenger Black, 51 Aero Midnight, Vac. Emerald Jr., Challenger Gray Pearl, 51 Vac Black, Duofold Int. Black, Duofold Jr. Red.

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