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I wouldn't pay that much, but I'd love a pen like that. Wow.


Actually, I may well pay that much, if I had the money :D

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I'm wondering if he over flexed the nib.

German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

RIP...200's once great nib, now a double ball.:crybaby::wallbash:


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I've seen his site before and he's pretty careful. He's also pretty pricey. Having said that a Sheaffer wet noodle is pretty rare.

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I actually have no idea what a pen like that would normally go for. I have to start with "no pen is worth a quarter of that", and then grudgingly add "to me".


Apart from that, assuming that the two bidders with the low numbers are legitimate and not shills, it's sad seeing people treat these things as live auctions. Don't people read the instructions and understand how automatic bidding works?

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He is an experienced collector/restorer, and something of a calligrapher who has been around a while. I seriously doubt he overflexed the nib

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He has some seriously beautiful pens; I've watched his ebay auctions for a while. They are expensive, but he obviously has a very fine reputation and gained a lot of trust among his buyers......but......I can't say I've ever seen any of his pens sell for that price; and heck, the auction still isn't over!

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That looks definitely impressive, but sending all that money without having seen the pen in person even once...

Not my cup of tea.



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Showing my ignorance here, but what is a 'shill' bid?


Hard if not impossible to prove, but when you see two or more bidders fighting it out like that, it's sometimes suspected that one is in cahoots with the seller, trying to tempt inexperienced bidders into going higher than they otherwise would. Presumably the shill backs out if he accidentally wins. It is possible for the seller to offer the item to the second place bidder in that case, but the bidder has no obligation to accept.


Since a couple of people have commented that this is a reputable seller, I doubt if that's what's going on here, more likely a couple of inexperienced eBayers. It's a unwise way to bid, though. It makes more sense to decide on the maximum you're willing to pay, and bid once, as close to the end of the auction as possible, even within the last few seconds if you aren't averse to "sniping".


Again, I have no idea what the pen is actually worth to someone who knows the market. It's the bidding strategy that doesn't make sense.

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I also doubt that shill bidding is going on here, but I just took a look at the 2 high bidders. Neither of them have very high bidding histories - 1 has zero and the other 4. And I am suspicious that they are genuine. I am no expert, but the bidding seems to have gone way too high.

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Showing my ignorance here, but what is a 'shill' bid?


On that note I've suspected sellers of doing that sometimes, like when I was trying to get my first snorkel, near the last minute or so it would go from something like pennies between 32, 34, 36 dollars, then within the last few seconds a bid for over 80 is made, and not automated bids either the bid history would literally show it jumping from something like 46 to $87 which is when I suspect shill bidding is going on (especially when the exact same pen with the exact same 'chew' mark is re-listed twice already despite having been won).

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Fifteen hundred dollars?!


I wonder if the bidders know they are bidding in US currency.

Either it said $1500 this morning or I misread it. Price shot up in 12 hours.



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I suspect that that pen and nib combination from Sheaffer's would be worth $1500 to a serious collector. I've hardly ever seen a wet-noodle Sheaffer's factor nib offered.


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I suspect that that pen and nib combination from Sheaffer's would be worth $1500 to a serious collector.


Or suppose your name is Joe Howard and you happen to be a doctor? Maybe your father, or great grandfather? On top of being restored in great condition and having an exceptional nib, that could easily be a grail pen for someone.


I've bought pens from that seller in the past and never had any funny business or disappointments. But that bidding history looks silly with just two bidders and low ratings. Maybe they both named Joe Howard :rolleyes:

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