Algester Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) In other words the line that is/was on the market now. Interesting. Three I know and love...so I'm now expected to investigate the newer inks coming out for possible replacements? Sigh! Fortunately I've seen the comparisons of the LEs or what-were-extinct-but-aren't-now, with the mainstream or were-but-will-be-extinct (or will they?) inks; yet, I wonder, why does Sailor bother? Ah yes, the pricing game.... because they think their inks are now over lapping when they decided that the 4 seasonal inks will be a mainstay? some look close and similar but are not the same I suppose.This is however just my hunch so take it with a grain of salt but if they do reintroduce the old 4 seasonal colors its good with me But I think Sailor is on this year's ink recycle spree something for a change discontinue the over lapping colors and bring in the old ones 5 years or so do it again Edited June 2, 2014 by Algester Store Exclusive Sailor Inks click here this has been my "personal obligation/service" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskia_madding Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I am not pleased with this news. Arg. Now I will have to pick up a few bottles of sky high and epinard. (Sigh) http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/261536-about-my-reviews/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Anderson Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Confirmation from Sailor the new inks will be here this Friday. No news on whether or not the others are being discontinued, but we are looking into it and as soon as we hear anything will let everyone know. www.esterbrook.net All Esterbrook, All the Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alarickc Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Confirmation from Sailor the new inks will be here this Friday. No news on whether or not the others are being discontinued, but we are looking into it and as soon as we hear anything will let everyone know.If one is trying to be on top of ordering as quickly as possible what time of day on Friday will the inks be available? http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/Runnin_Ute/fpn_1424623518__super_pinks-bottle%20resized_zps9ihtoixe.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsilius Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I just picked up two bottles today at The Fountain Pen Shop in Monrovia, CA. Doyou and Miruai. Rikyu- cha would be a dream return.Best,Mars "fortibus es in ero" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Anderson Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 If one is trying to be on top of ordering as quickly as possible what time of day on Friday will the inks be available?We typically get shipments around noon central time. Back in stock notifications are available on the website and will be sent out immediately once they are received at the store. www.esterbrook.net All Esterbrook, All the Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm1624124 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 because they think their inks are now over lapping when they decided that the 4 seasonal inks will be a mainstay? some look close and similar but are not the same I suppose.This is however just my hunch so take it with a grain of salt but if they do reintroduce the old 4 seasonal colors its good with me But I think Sailor is on this year's ink recycle spree something for a change discontinue the over lapping colors and bring in the old ones 5 years or so do it again Could be, could be...I agree what Sailor brought out as their "main stay" ink colors, which I'll repeat really weren't (how many years, really?), were close but not exact to the seasonal LEs; so, I follow that line of reasoning. What I can't understand is the jerking out, pounding in, behavior of ink manufacturers. OK, ISO standards change, shipping requirements change, sources disappear, the item doesn't move, I get that. But this behavior just ain't right. And now I ask myself why I bother to gain interest when I'll be essentially punished as a faithful consumer. Why pull up production on a successful color, replace it with something "not quite the same but very similar", get (again) consumer following, and then rip it off the market to resurrect what was purposefully killed off? I feel betrayed. I'm definitely rethinking my buying patterns when it comes to ink. The idea of feeling forced into stashing bottles of ink for future decades is asinine to me just as hording paper is unappealing. Yet I'm doing both and now I think I'm insane. I guess today's consumer is schizophrenic with his purchasing habits. And if these inks brothers/sisters are/were so dang close then......why bother? right I keep forgetting the price change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algester Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Could be, could be...I agree what Sailor brought out as their "main stay" ink colors, which I'll repeat really weren't (how many years, really?), were close but not exact to the seasonal LEs; so, I follow that line of reasoning. What I can't understand is the jerking out, pounding in, behavior of ink manufacturers. OK, ISO standards change, shipping requirements change, sources disappear, the item doesn't move, I get that. But this behavior just ain't right. And now I ask myself why I bother to gain interest when I'll be essentially punished as a faithful consumer. Why pull up production on a successful color, replace it with something "not quite the same but very similar", get (again) consumer following, and then rip it off the market to resurrect what was purposefully killed off? I feel betrayed. I'm definitely rethinking my buying patterns when it comes to ink. The idea of feeling forced into stashing bottles of ink for future decades is asinine to me just as hording paper is unappealing. Yet I'm doing both and now I think I'm insane. I guess today's consumer is schizophrenic with his purchasing habits. And if these inks brothers/sisters are/were so dang close then......why bother? right I keep forgetting the price change...huh the 4 season inks are still the same as the old mainstay inks price wise but yeah... some people did like the LE inks though... I dunno all I know I'm looking at the Athena inks but then I realize I can't get them yet :< Store Exclusive Sailor Inks click here this has been my "personal obligation/service" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted A Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 It could well be the fickleness of FPN members that drives it. Sailor has gotten a lot more discussion and probably sold a lot more ink in the last couple of months because of this whole add ink, take away ink business than the sold all last year. My understanding is that the majority of people thought MB Racing Green was an ugly, unusable color until it was withdrawn. Now we see lots of discussions everytime a new green ink comes out. Epinard has gotten mention as a similar but not the same ink, but in comparison to Racing Green. Maybe Sailor's goal is to get people buying their new inks, comparing them to the old inks and then going on a buying frenzy when they're reintroduced. To hold a pen is to be at war. - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_lotus Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I saw this kind of thing in the absinthe world back before it was legal here in the US. People would order from EU. A certain producer would release a different absinthe every 3 or 4 months. So people on the absinthe forums would go on a frenzy to buy them even before knowing exactly what it was. They were good products, but there was no reason for the frenzy over them. The consumer was just being manipulated by the producer. My guess is Sailor isn't doing this, but probably saw sales of the LE inks as good or better than the existing lineup and decided to bring them back. I'll get a few of these inks and some others, but I just don't go through enough ink to justify getting them if they just sit on a shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbW Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 The inks are now listed. I just purchased 2-Yama-dori and 1-Oku-yama. Can't wait to see these fabled inks in person! We typically get shipments around noon central time. Back in stock notifications are available on the website and will be sent out immediately once they are received at the store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatflower Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) My 2 bottles of Yama-dori are ordered! Now I just need to empty a pen or two before it arrives here. Edited June 6, 2014 by Wheatflower Fountain Pens: Still cheaper than playing Warhammer 40K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vgimlet Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) My bottle of Yama-dori is on the way. Woot! I am expecting a few new nibs, and am going to try it with either a medium or broad nib, I have a pen all clean and ready for it when it arrives next week. Edited June 6, 2014 by Vgimlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton1978 Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 my bottle sailor shigure ordered and on the way!sky high will surely return next or later yearIMO souten very close color Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_lotus Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Yama-dori and Shigure ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenks Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) Well, I'm seriously annoyed with Sailor. I love Grenade and Ron from Pen Chalet confirmed they are discontinuing the current line. http://www.penchalet.com/blog/sailor-jentle-ink-is-being-discontinued/ I hate having to hoard ink but I did just that and put an order in at penchalet.com where they just received new stock. At least I have a couple of bottles of Grenade to hold me over and it isn't a repeat of the whole Hitchcock disaster where it was sold out before I could even get to the store to buy a bottle. Edited June 9, 2014 by Jenks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legitimate3 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I feel like some of the inks being discontinued are similar to the new ones being released. I want to buy a bottle of Sailor Jentle ink though. Which one is most worth it to buy, or in your opinion, there is really no other ink like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algester Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) from the new inks there are Yama-dori and Tokiwa-Matsu - its only when you use flex does the ink shine in it's potential, Sou-ten is also nice if you like bluesalso most of the inks that I stated are a tad bit saturated that they can stain your pen as for the inks we just found out that in our part of the world the new inks are also a limited thing... and the other inks are already discontinued... this is why Philippines can never have good stuff huh... sigh... Edited June 10, 2014 by Algester Store Exclusive Sailor Inks click here this has been my "personal obligation/service" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavorting Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 does anyone have a rakuten source for the seasonal sailor inks (I'm thinking of yama dori and shigure) ? My search skills appear to be failing me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbW Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 does anyone have a rakuten source for the seasonal sailor inks (I'm thinking of yama dori and shigure) ? My search skills appear to be failing me...Are you in the USA? They are being sold here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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