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Pre Duofold Fountain Pens (Clip Version)


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I have the following pens of this era:

jack knife saftey- 23 1/2

DQ- 235

lucky curve- 222


This got wondering (although there is a list on parkerpen.net- does not state clip or ring)


does anyone have a more accurate list of the following {Model- number}

lucky curve

jake knife




Trench pen

Black Giant


True blue.


many thanks





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I don't think you would have a DQ that is "pre-Duofold", since it stands for "Duofold Quality". Nobody would have known what that meant.

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Yes thank you for pointing that out.


Facts about the Raven.


I know that the Raven came in three banding options:


single band

two cap bands.


They were made in the USA.


They all had the same diameter = 0.480 inches


But what lengths

I have seen ones online state 4 inches and one at 5 inches?


does anyone know the correct paremeters for Ravens.







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The True Blue and Pastels are both part of the Duofold family so they would not be pre-Duofold either.


They were marketed as smaller, lower-cost alternatives to the Duofolds. They both sold for $3.50 compared to $7.00 for a Senior-sized Duofold.


Unfortunately, I can't help you with the model numbers or with the Raven.

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