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Since this thread is revived, I am wondering--now that Pelikan's 'F' is to all intents and purposes an 'M', what does one order to get a true 'fine' that is not 'extra-fine'? Does 'EF' run wider sometimes? And when did the shift occur to making wider-running nibs?

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It seems that my modern M800 EF nib runs a little wide and you might call it an F. Here are a few more writing samples:




Pens used are Montblanc 246 F (ca. 1948, running pretty wet), Pelikan M800 EF (2013), Visconti Homo Sapiens Bronze F (2014) and Montblanc Carlo Collodi F (2011). Here are the business ends of these pens:




Please note that each pen is filled with a different ink, making this "test" rather unscientific. The M800 is also my only Pelikan, so I have no other model to compare it to. Hope this is still useful.

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Yes, that's very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to do some more samples, pmhudepo! I guess my tastes are changing. I used to like finer lines,

but now extra-fine seems too fine for me; still, having a hard time adjusting to medium. The F and 'EF' do look pretty consistent though on your page.

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Chris, my writing sample was written with my Pelikan M800 EF using Pelikan Edelstein Topaz ink on Clairefontaine french-ruled paper.





Hope this helps with your decision ;-)




What a beautiful writing!

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I realise this is a six-year old thread, but since I happened to be testing three M200 and M400 nibs to decide which nib to use with which ink (and thus to which pen, since I tend to try to match inks to the finishes and/or materials of the pen bodies), I may as well post a scan of the writing samples in case someone finds it to be of some use.




I have no idea whether my M200 steel F nib is typical, but it seems to be capable of leaving at least as narrow a horizontal line reliably as either of the EF nibs.

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Forgot to mention the tear drop tipped, semi-vintage shaped tipping '82-97 (of the '88-now 200), runs @ 1/2 a width narrower than the round ball modnern 400/600 semi-nail, 800 nail or 1000 regular flex nibs.

So springy regular flex semi-vintage '82-97 and the 200 will be thinner than modern.

Vintage will also be that 1/2 a width thinner but has a softer semi-flex nib that will spread it's tines perhaps too easy for you.


The Japanese make a XXF nib they call EF.....you could look at that too, if very skinny is an absolute must.

German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,


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