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pranav.bhatnagar

Hello poeple,

 

I have been a passionate user of ink pens since past 10 years. Even now, after I have graduated I still use ink pen for all my writing needs. In my childhood there was never a complain of ink clogging problems since we only had availability of 1 - 2 brands of ink and the pens we used to be in a normal price range.

 

Off late after I brought a Mont Blanc Midnight blue (Blue - Black) which is a permanent ink, which is not mentioned on the box, I had started using it and it clogged my sheaffer prelude badly, which I have now given for repairing but my Parker 45 survived it. After this incident I have stopped using that ink.

 

Now I have started using Waterman Blue Black and Parker Quink Blue Black ink. I am planning to purchase a purple or a black colour ink for my Parker Premier Black / Monochrome edition. This time I want to be perfectly safe and the ink brands which are available in my region are:

 

1. Waterman

2. Parker

3. Pelikan Edelstein

4. Mont Blanc

 

PS: Quink Blue Black does not mention to be a permanent ink, but is it really one? I found quite a lot of people saying it to be a permanent ink but it doesn’t feel though.

 

I have read reviews but I would like to know personal experience of people using it. Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

 

Thanks

 

Pranav B

 

 

 

 

 

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Permanent is very subjective...

 

Parker sells a washable black and a permanent black though the permanent black is not that waterproof or dark. It is very well behaved and shades well but it is not a bold black. Waterman and Pelikan probably have better blacks...

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Mont Blanc Midnight Blue is an ink with iron gall content. That makes the ink permanent as well as necessitates extra care of the pen. If you read the little leaflet inside the box, placed below the bottle, this fact is stated clearly.

 

The care regimen with iron gall ink isn't too tough - don't leave the ink in the pen if the pen isn't going to be used for some time. Flush the pen thoroughly with water every two or three refills, and you should be good to go.

 

I've had very good experience with all Waterman inks, they're excellent and shouldn't require any special care besides the regular pen cleaning. I haven't tried the Parker permanent that you mention, but I don't think it's an iron gall ink.

 

The Mont Blanc Midnight Blue is a lovely ink with some bet handy waterproof characteristics. I would suggest that you don't give up on it already.

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Mont Blanc Midnight Blue is an ink with iron gall content. That makes the ink permanent as well as necessitates extra care of the pen. If you read the little leaflet inside the box, placed below the bottle, this fact is stated clearly.

 

The care regimen with iron gall ink isn't too tough - don't leave the ink in the pen if the pen isn't going to be used for some time. Flush the pen thoroughly with water every two or three refills, and you should be good to go.

 

I've had very good experience with all Waterman inks, they're excellent and shouldn't require any special care besides the regular pen cleaning. I haven't tried the Parker permanent that you mention, but I don't think it's an iron gall ink.

 

The Mont Blanc Midnight Blue is a lovely ink with some bet handy waterproof characteristics. I would suggest that you don't give up on it already.

Thank you for your reply. yes I did see that leaflet after I boought it. The issue that happened is that the iron gall ink has damaged the steel coating on the piston filler and it is even prominant even in the parker 45 filler. Yes though am taking a very good care of my ink pens this has stated eating me up from inside thinking about the effect it can cause inside the feeder system.

 

I have used waterman blue - black but the only thing i found it that after drying the shade is slightly a lighter shade as compared to the other inks.

 

What are your thoughts on Pelikan Edelsitein ? How is the black or purple colour ?

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What are your thoughts on Pelikan Edelsitein ? How is the black or purple colour ?

I use Edelstein Tanzanite and I quite like it. In general, the Edelstein inks are wetter than the 4001 inks. Also, the formula is supposedly gentler on all kinds of fountain pens.

 

Only the blue-blacks with iron gall would darken upon drying due to oxidation of the iron content.

 

For what you mention about the Midnight Blue ink damaging the steel parts, it certainly is possible and iron gall is known to eat into steel. However, it is rather rare with modern inks such as the one you're using because they tend to be quite low in the iron gall content.

 

I wouldn't worry about using the MBMB in my Parker 45. This is one pen that ca be deep cleaned rather easily. Also, the semi-hooded nib would perhaps prevent dryouts during pauses in writing.

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georges zaslavsky

Montblanc alongwith Pelikan are permanent. Private reserve fast dry colors are also permanent.

Pens are like watches , once you start a collection, you can hardly go back. And pens like all fine luxury items do improve with time

 

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