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That was a clear, concise explanation of ink terminology.

 

I'm pretty sure you could include the Sumi inks as an example of pigmented ink that could be used on almost any surface such as vellum and perhaps the stone paper.

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Can anyone comment on which are lower maintenance, Iron gall inks, or bulletproof/eternal type inks?

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Clear and succinct.

 

Awesome.

 

How is this not pinned yet? Where's a moderator when you need one?

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Can anyone comment on which are lower maintenance, Iron gall inks, or bulletproof/eternal type inks?

FP friendly Iron Gall and Pigmented inks are higher maintenance (use daily, flush thoroughly between refills) than Bulletproof/Eternal inks.

The former can precipitate out particles into the feed of your pen. Cleaning those out can require an ultrasonic bath.

The latter are simply saturated inks in solution. If they dry out, they don't generally pose more of a problem than any other type of highly saturated ink. Having said that, cleaning out any saturated ink from a dried out pen takes lots of rinsing and soaking in warm water.

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Simply stated: If you want your document to be around for a long, long time:

 

1) Use something other than lowest bidder paper, probably cotton paper.

2) Use a pigmented or IG ink

 

 

I would not say that the Warden inks are particularly waterproof, especially not BBK. I've had it become Gone With the Water.

 

What I cannot figure out is why the modern carbon based inks seem to be of Japanese production and that there aren't many (or any that I know of) "carbon blacks" from Europe. Conversely, I can't think of modern I-G inks from brands like Sailor, Pilot, etc.

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Great work, especially for providing an overview/clarification of current ink terminology. Very useful for noobs and seasoned FPNers. I like the fact you provided the "glossary" and are leaving the detailed explanations for another post. This approach gives common ground for all of us, while leaving the intricate details to those that crave more information. Again, great job and a greater approach.

 

Add me to the "this should be pinned" proponents.

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What I cannot figure out is why the modern carbon based inks seem to be of Japanese production and that there aren't many (or any that I know of) "carbon blacks" from Europe.

 

There's Pelikan Fount India from Germany... also Higgins Fountain Pen India from the U.S.A., and Hero Advanced Carbonic from China.

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FP friendly Iron Gall and Pigmented inks are higher maintenance (use daily, flush thoroughly between refills) than Bulletproof/Eternal inks.

The former can precipitate out particles into the feed of your pen. Cleaning those out can require an ultrasonic bath.

The latter are simply saturated inks in solution. If they dry out, they don't generally pose more of a problem than any other type of highly saturated ink. Having said that, cleaning out any saturated ink from a dried out pen takes lots of rinsing and soaking in warm water.

 

Hi,

 

The use of dilute vinegar (acetic acid) to flush a pen may also dissolve any sediment from an I-G ink, but if its a serious case, then an ultrasonic cleaner is needed.

 

The Noodler's family of 'bulletproof' inks are rather idiosyncratic: some clean-up with plain water, others are highly persistent so require at least a commercial pen cleaning solution designed to remove draughting inks.

 

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Thank you for your work.

As one who is just beginning to try and get a handle on the various terms and definitions I found this very illuminating.

 

Best,

Ray

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Thank you for your work.

As one who is just beginning to try and get a handle on the various terms and definitions I found this very illuminating.

 

Best,

Ray

 

Even for someone who has been inky for a while, these terms and definitions have been most helpful. Thank you.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Here I'd thought this was pinned by now. :) Oh well.

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