What's The Big Deal With Nakaya?

[Pemako]

What is great about Nakaya pens? They are handmade works of art and they will make one just for you, according to your specifications. For something like that, made by artists and craftsmen with decades of experience the price they charge is extremely low. If you don't like any of the pens they have, just tell them what you do like and they will make it, within reason.

[Bo Bo Olson]

I have learned irony and sarcasm are a no no, here. Many just don't get it.

 

Yep it is a painted pen that's not even air brushed.

 

Ancient methods of a different art, where often one has to check things out before one can start to understand something.

The first time I saw a raked rock garden in Japan, I did not understand it at all, but that view is always ready for me to pull up, in I knew it was supposed to be something special...and where the rich folks hung out, it had to be well done. Where I saw it on a hill top hot spring hotel, only the rich or the workers seen it.

 

There was lots of cultural things in that raked gravel, I missed. :blink:

I was young and dumb, now I'm old and undereducated.

Edited March 21, 2012 by Bo Bo Olson

[Mickey]

I have learned irony and sarcasm are a no no, here. Many just don't get it.

 

Yep it is a painted pen that's not even air brushed.

 

Ancient methods of a different art, where often one has to check things out before one can start to understand something.

The first time I saw a raked rock garden in Japan, I did not understand it at all, but that view is always ready for me to pull up, in I knew it was supposed to be something special...and where the rich folks hung out, it had to be well done. Where I saw it on a hill top hot spring hotel, only the rich or the workers seen it.

 

There was lots of cultural things in that raked gravel, I missed. :blink:

I was young and dumb, now I'm old and undereducated.

 

Hey Bo Bo, don't feel too bad. I never really got the Grateful Dead. They were just one of a host of bands in my neighborhood who didn't know how to tune their instruments, best enjoyed when my cortical functions were chemically compromised. (Nice guys, though.) Sober, I much preferred The Sons of Champlin and, later, the Tubes.

 

Wax on, Wax off...

[Bo Bo Olson]

Jerry Garcia, could tune a guitar to what he wanted to, when he wanted to....even heard him pick clean.

He played quite across the boards....of music styles.

 

I'd loved to see him and Segovia (flamingo); whom I saw on US TV @ 1970....that was like hearing Al Hurt play live.

 

Now...that was a good line....when my cortical functions were chemically compromised...it took that for me to like rock and roll.

Each era it's own drugs, beer and Beach Boys, Grass for lots, acid for Black Sabbath.....

 

And in Germany when a song from years ago for five year olds lead the charts...I decided Estacy was too dangerous to try. Pogo stick in a disco to music that made you happy when you were five.

 

Actually the best song from the Beatles was Ringo singing John Reeves 'Red Sails in the Sunset' in Hamburg. :roflmho:

 

For the pens I need some Saki.

 

I just thought I'd say I've seen drawings (not bad..had some talent) done by Palblo before he discovered he could paint a painting a day that we can all do, and get paid a fortune for it, those guys making the pens are his masters.

Edited March 22, 2012 by Bo Bo Olson

[Vshin]

I think you'd be surprised how expensive Urushi lacquer can be. The bottom line is that the value of these kind of pens comes from an appreciation of the culture and traditional craftsmanship; but if you don't care or have no clue, then it's just a piece of hard rubber with some paint on it.

[pajaro]

I read through the Nakaya website. Ah, yes, I've done that before. It does seem their pens are not meant to be posted. Sayonara.

[Mickey]

Jerry Garcia, could tune a guitar to what he wanted to, when he wanted to....:roflmho:

 

Aye, there's the question. The running gag (back) then was that a standard 50 minute set (not just for the Dead) consisted of 10 minutes of playing and 40 minutes of sound checks and tuning.

 

My real disinterest in the Dead (and blues bands in general) stems from a need for more than 3 chords in my life. There's a reason why it's called 'the blues' (singular). From a harmonic standpoint, there really is only one 'blues'.

 

Sorry for the non-pen digression, folks. Geezers, don't you know.

Edited March 22, 2012 by Mickey

[Bo Bo Olson]

Slip a steel tube on your finger and you don't need cords either.

[AltecGreen]

Jerry Garcia, could tune a guitar to what he wanted to, when he wanted to....:roflmho:

 

Aye, there's the question. The running gag (back) then was that a standard 50 minute set (not just for the Dead) consisted of 10 minutes of playing and 40 minutes of sound checks and tuning.

 

My real disinterest in the Dead (and blues bands in general) stems from a need for more than 3 chords in my life. There's a reason why it's called 'the blues' (singular). From a harmonic standpoint, there really is only one 'blues'.

 

Sorry for the non-pen digression, folks. Geezers, don't you know.

 

 

 

You could listen to the Ramones. They used four chords. :roflmho:

[Doug C]

Here is the review that I posted a few years ago on my two Nakayas.

 

They are very good writers, but nothing out of the ordinary. The focus is on the artistry of the pens. The same can be applied to Dani-Trio and Namiki pens to a degree (I own several examples of all of them).

 

It appears that there are number of new members on FPN, but when I first posted this review, there was a real feeding frenzy regarding Japanese pens. The reality is that they tend to be better than average writers, but the focus is on the craftmanship, at least on the high end pens.

 

This means that if you purchase a pen expecting a surreal writing experience, you might be disappointed.

 

Taken in context they are great pens....

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=65713

[FarmBoy]

Where is Nakayanaturix when you need her?

[buffalowings]

Send a safari to richard binder or anyone who knows how to adjust a pen, and it will write as well as any other pen out there, or better then the majority which are untuned and tend to have a host of problems. Nakaya is all about the brand, the handmade goodness that went into the product, being turned by a 80 year old master, and buffed by another 80 year old master, and the balance of the pen, and the beauty of the finish. There is allure to all that, but in the end, they don't write much better than a comparably good writing pen that probably cost a lot less. The same could be said for any other maker out there, a Pelikan M1000 is really just a giant M400 but costs a heck lot more.

[JonSzanto]

Send a safari to richard binder or anyone who knows how to adjust a pen, and it will write as well as any other pen out there, or better then the majority which are untuned and tend to have a host of problems. Nakaya is all about the brand, the handmade goodness that went into the product, being turned by a 80 year old master, and buffed by another 80 year old master, and the balance of the pen, and the beauty of the finish. There is allure to all that, but in the end, they don't write much better than a comparably good writing pen that probably cost a lot less. The same could be said for any other maker out there, a Pelikan M1000 is really just a giant M400 but costs a heck lot more.

As if.

 

They say that if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. I'm figuring all you have is a writing pen, and everything looks like paper to you. It doesn't take a huge mountain of enlightenment to comprehend that even a lowly instrument, which may have been intended to do one function well, can be elevated to far more than that one functionary existence. No, these pens aren't for everyone, and I certainly don't see one in my future, but I've spent a life in artistic pursuits, and I certainly can see not only the value but the deeply soulful artistry in the Nakayas.

 

Might as well take down "Starry Night" and hang a velvet Elvis. I mean, they're both paintings. Geesh.

[Mickey]

Send a safari to richard binder or anyone who knows how to adjust a pen, and it will write as well as any other pen out there, or better then the majority which are untuned and tend to have a host of problems. Nakaya is all about the brand, the handmade goodness that went into the product, being turned by a 80 year old master, and buffed by another 80 year old master, and the balance of the pen, and the beauty of the finish. There is allure to all that, but in the end, they don't write much better than a comparably good writing pen that probably cost a lot less.

 

And you know all this how? I've got a Nakaya, have tried others people's Nakayas, and own a couple of custom ground pens from Maestro Binder. I write near continuously for several hours each morning and have my choice of a dozen pretty decent pens. Since my Long Writer arrived a month or so ago, it has been my first choice nearly every day, followed distantly by a Hunt 22B in Michael Sull holder and a Platinum President. I don't see that pattern changing any time this year.

 

My favorite pen from Richard is one he repaired for me, a Parker Duofold, which was already a great writer before its nib had an unfortunate collision with a tile floor. (It now writes again like a dream, thank you Richard.) No criticism of Mr.Binder, but even he can't pull a rabbit out of a hat if the rabbit isn't already in residence.

[mcnoodle]

Send a safari to richard binder or anyone who knows how to adjust a pen, and it will write as well as any other pen out there, or better then the majority which are untuned and tend to have a host of problems. Nakaya is all about the brand, the handmade goodness that went into the product, being turned by a 80 year old master, and buffed by another 80 year old master, and the balance of the pen, and the beauty of the finish. There is allure to all that, but in the end, they don't write much better than a comparably good writing pen that probably cost a lot less.

 

And you know all this how? I've got a Nakaya, have tried others people's Nakayas, and own a couple of custom ground pens from Maestro Binder. I write near continuously for several hours each morning and have my choice of a dozen pretty decent pens. Since my Long Writer arrived a month or so ago, it has been my first choice nearly every day, followed distantly by a Hunt 22B in Michael Sull holder and a Platinum President. I don't see that pattern changing any time this year.

 

My favorite pen from Richard is one he repaired for me, a Parker Duofold, which was already a great writer before its nib had an unfortunate collision with a tile floor. (It now writes again like a dream, thank you Richard.) No criticism of Mr.Binder, but even he can't pull a rabbit out of a hat if the rabbit isn't already in residence.

 

Exactly! My Nakaya is my best writer, and THAT is the reason why I am already thinking about buying another one. Not because of the looks (though they don't hurt).

[ethernautrix]

Where is Nakayanaturix when you need her?

 

Sharing this thread in facebook!

 

Also, my kuro tamenuri Desk Pen returned from Ernest Shin's maki-e ministrations to it (he painted my name in kanji on the section, and it is beautiful!), and I have been using it with much delight! I do believe I have a favorite pen. I mean, I have many favorites, but this is my favorite.

 

Since the Nakaya was delivered to me at work, I was not prepared to ink it, having forgotten to bring the small Nalgene bottle of Noodler's Black. I did, however, have my Edison Pearl, an ED, so I filled the Nakaya converter from the Pearl, and it worked perfectly! Almost as clean as a Visconti Ink Pot.

 

Thus, the Desk Pen is filled with Noodler's Old Manhattan Blackety-Black Black.

 

I won't try to persuade others to like Nakaya. Nakaya is not for everyone. For those who don't care for it, there are many other pen brands out there, plenty enough to go around.

[AltecGreen]

Where is Nakayanaturix when you need her?

 

Sharing this thread in facebook!

 

 

 

 

Yep. We were on Facebook talking about Nakayas and sharing this thread.

 

 

BTW Lisa-didn't we just convince someone to buy a Nakaya 15 minutes ago on Facebook.

[ethernautrix]

Where is Nakayanaturix when you need her?

 

Sharing this thread in facebook!

 

 

 

 

Yep. We were on Facebook talking about Nakayas and sharing this thread.

 

 

BTW Lisa-didn't we just convince someone to buy a Nakaya 15 minutes ago on Facebook.

 

Convince? You mean "share the love?" (*Laughs merrily*)

[FarmBoy]

Where is Nakayanaturix when you need her?

 

Sharing this thread in facebook!

 

 

 

 

Yep. We were on Facebook talking about Nakayas and sharing this thread.

 

 

BTW Lisa-didn't we just convince someone to buy a Nakaya 15 minutes ago on Facebook.

I see. I don't face twitter so I missed it. Glad to see you here now.

 

Is your knee better?

[amberleadavis]

Great looking pens. Customizable nibs. Only downfall is that they have C/C fillers. Again personal taste but I wouldn't pay over $100 for a c/c filler. Once they develop a piston filling Nakaya, I'll be in the lineup for one.

 

Based on what I've read - I'm with you - as soon as they have a Piston Fill.