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Comparison : Pelikan Edelstein Topaz, Pilot Asa-Gao, Noodler's Baystate Blue, Private Reserve American Blue

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WELCOME

 

In the course of doing an Ink Review, there arose the perceived need, aka curiosity, to compare four rather different, but interesting inks:

  • Private Reserve American Blue
  • Noodler's Baystate Blue
  • Pelikan Edelstein Topaz
  • Pilot asa-gao

I have reviewed all but the NBB, and other Members have plumbed the depths and scaled the heights to wring-out NBB. So all things which comprise an Ink Review (and more) can be seen next door in the Ink Review Forum.

 

So, please do the necessary to calibrate your gear, then we'll cut to the chase ...

 

As the patches on the Grey Scale below are neutral gray, their colour on your monitor should also be neutral gray.

Mac http://www.wikihow.c...te-Your-Monitor

Wintel PC http://www.calibrize.com/

Gray Scale.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/InkyThoughts2010/th_INK576.jpg

 

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WRITTEN LINES

 

These replace the ubiquitous but flaky swatches, which cannot reliably depict ink density, (light - dark), etc., etc., etc.

 

To juxtapose each of the four inks, two sets are shown.

 

Figure 1.

Paper: HPJ1124

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Row 1. Pa-g

Row 2. NBB

Row 3. PET

Row 4. PRAB

Figure 2.

Paper: HPJ1124

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN%20Stuff%20-%202011/Comparison%20-%20Pa-g%20PRAB%20NBsBl%20PET/e47e3f02.jpg

Row 1. NBB

Row 2. PRAB

Row 3. Pa-g

Row 4. PET

WRITTEN SAMPLES - Moby Dick

Row Height is 8 mm.

 

One-row Written Samples, grouped and sequenced as Lines above.

 

Figure 3.

Paper: HPJ1124

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN%20Stuff%20-%202011/Comparison%20-%20Pa-g%20PRAB%20NBsBl%20PET/21910091.jpg

Row 1. Pa-g

Row 2. NBB

Row 3. PET

Row 4. PRAB

Figure 4.

Paper: HPJ1124

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN%20Stuff%20-%202011/Comparison%20-%20Pa-g%20PRAB%20NBsBl%20PET/5e1f5f8e.jpg

Row 1. NBB

Row 2. PRAB

Row 3. Pa-g

Row 4. PET

 

Cell Samples.

 

Figure 5.

Paper: HPJ1124

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN%20Stuff%20-%202011/Comparison%20-%20Pa-g%20PRAB%20NBsBl%20PET/05233e59.jpg

Figure 6.

Paper: Rhodia

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN%20Stuff%20-%202011/Comparison%20-%20Pa-g%20PRAB%20NBsBl%20PET/8e82ed87.jpg

 

  • I thought it would be of interest to bring the inks to roughly the same tone (light-dark) so that the comparison is more about colour than tone.
  • Also, as NBB has significant performance problems which dilution somewhat ameliorates, it may not be unexpected that NBB would be commonly diluted, but perhaps not to 2/3 strength. (?)

Figure 7.

HPJ1124

PPAB and NBB are shown at 66% strength.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN%20Stuff%20-%202011/Comparison%20-%20Pa-g%20PRAB%20NBsBl%20PET/819cfef2.jpg

 

Hi-Res Scans of the above inks:

 

Figure 8.

Private Reserve American Blue @ 66% :

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN%20Stuff%20-%202011/Comparison%20-%20Pa-g%20PRAB%20NBsBl%20PET/8d392afa.jpg

 

Figure 9.

Pelikan Edelstein Topaz :

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN%20Stuff%20-%202011/Comparison%20-%20Pa-g%20PRAB%20NBsBl%20PET/d056156a.jpg

 

Figure 10.

Pilot asa-gao :

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN%20Stuff%20-%202011/Comparison%20-%20Pa-g%20PRAB%20NBsBl%20PET/d1d10ef3.jpg

 

Figure 11.

Noodler's Baystate Blue @66% :

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN%20Stuff%20-%202011/Comparison%20-%20Pa-g%20PRAB%20NBsBl%20PET/89e9d1b1.jpg

 

 

 

OTHER STUFF

  • While these wee tests were previously performed, once the ink is in the pen, it takes but a moment to generate yet another data point. I encourage practitioners to generate their own samples and data to accurately reflect their environment, materials, &tc.
  • All inks at bottle-strength.
  • For the Smear/Dry Time Samples, the mark-making was done from right to left in five second increments in a countdown mode.

Figure 12.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN%20Stuff%20-%202011/Comparison%20-%20Pa-g%20PRAB%20NBsBl%20PET/d02e2f04.jpg



[OoO]-[OoO]-[OoO]

 

MATERIEL

 

Pen:

Rosetta Magellan + g-p steel Schmidt B nib.

(This supersedes the previously favoured Pelikan M200 with a g-p BB nib from richardpens. While I like that rig, I think it is not as well suited to this sort of thing.)

Paper:

  • HPJ1124 - A 24lb. Laser Copy paper.
  • Rhodia - A fairly common upper tier paper that is FP friendly.

[oOo]-[OoO]-[oOo]

 

☛ As always, YMMV considerably, not only from materials, etc. that each person uses, but also inconsistencies of the stuff in the bottle.

 

☛ Ink does not require labelling to indicate (changes in) formulation, ingredients, etc.

 

☛ The accuracy of reviews, comparisons, samples, etc. depends upon consistency and reliability of associated products.

 

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great review!

 

Love my PR American Blue

Hi,

 

I do like it a lot. And have come to appreciate PRAB when it is diluted - usually 80 - 50%, depending on the wetness of the writer and the absorbency of the paper.

 

Do you dilute PRAB? If so, do you have a favoured % ?

 

Bye,

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great review!

 

Love my PR American Blue

Hi,

 

I do like it a lot. And have come to appreciate PRAB when it is diluted - usually 80 - 50%, depending on the wetness of the writer and the absorbency of the paper.

 

Do you dilute PRAB? If so, do you have a favoured % ?

 

Bye,

S1

 

 

honestly never tried it, I will have to soon. What are the benefits to doing so?

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great review!

 

Love my PR American Blue

Hi,

 

I do like it a lot. And have come to appreciate PRAB when it is diluted - usually 80 - 50%, depending on the wetness of the writer and the absorbency of the paper.

 

Do you dilute PRAB? If so, do you have a favoured % ?

 

Bye,

S1

 

 

honestly never tried it, I will have to soon. What are the benefits to doing so?

Hi,

 

PRAB as it comes from the bottle does not have any serious problems, so diluting that ink is not undertaken as a potential fix. The benefit is that one may easily and with little penalty, adjust the tone of the ink to give desired results when using a wet writer and/or absorbent paper.

 

Bye,

S1

The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.

 

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