Looking For A Roller Ball That Uses Bottle Ink

[rammerman]

Kaweco Sport Rollerball

 

I know the monteverde ink roller reviews are a bit mixed.

I did look at the Kaweco sport roller ball but this website says it only accepts the standard short cartridge.

 

http://www.cultpens....Pen.html#a16019

 

I understand that the old pelikan rollerball takes the long cartridge and therefore can acomodate a standard converter. Any one know where i can get one?

 

I don't know about the old Pelikan rollerball, but the Pelikano rollerball I bought a few months ago is horrible. It takes a standard converter but when I loaded it up with Noodler's Black the output looked like a faded grey and it was scratchy. Bleh!

 

Yes i meant the pelikano roller ball. Glad you told me about it !! I also have looked at a Monteverde short converter which apparently can replace the short standard cartridge. So if one has ink rollers or cartridge only pens thenthis would be a good option for bottle ink.

 

http://www.onlineref...__store=default

Edited October 7, 2010 by rammerman

[Truppi327]

Yes i meant the pelikano roller ball. Glad you told me about it !! I also have looked at a Monteverde short converter which apparently can replace the short standard cartridge. So if one has ink rollers or cartridge only pens thenthis would be a good option for bottle ink.

 

http://www.onlineref...__store=default

 

You can get those from Chuck Swisher in the U.S. as well. Nice little converters that do indeed fit on pens that take international short carts.

 

Just a note,I can't fill the converter completely though when using it with my Kaweco Sport, the weight in the end of the barrel doesn't allow the plunger to be pulled out all the way when the pen is put together so it hold only about a quarter fill. So in that situation a cartridge is a little more convenient.

Obviously, if you have one of the Kaweco Sports without the weight in the end this isn't an issue.

Edited October 7, 2010 by Truppi327

[majorworks]

The Kaweco Sport is actually an eyedropper fill. As a result, I only recommend the Ice series.

 

I had a look at the Kaweco sport ink ball. Is this the one you are referring to? It tkes short cartridges. Can this be converted to an eye drop filler?. Does it need an O ring?

 

No need for an O ring in a Kaweco Sport. Just lube up the threads with some silicone grease and tighten it up well. Mine has never leaked.

[rminj]

Noodler's just released a new roller ball version that fills with (piston fill) bottle ink. It should be in stock early next week on my website isellpens.com .

That sounds very interesting. Can you let us know when the pen is listed here please? Also, any idea now on the pricing of it or any details you can share already?Thank you.

 

2 You Tube videos from the man himself.

 

 

 

Awesome. What will Noodler's do next?

 

I also can't wait for these to be available. I'm not quite ready to to go to fountain pens but realize the advantages and choices available with fountain pen inks. Having been through many refillable ballpoints where the ballpoint manufacturer discontinues the pen or changes the refill ink/tip I'm definitely looking for a new solution. I'm at the point where I'm going to start refilling my ballpoint refills with noodlers (but know its not that simple)

[aragorn]

Noodler's just released a new roller ball version that fills with (piston fill) bottle ink. It should be in stock early next week on my website isellpens.com .

 

I know it must be too early for "long term usage" reports, but is there any sense that the Noodler Stylographic RB, like the Rembrandt Ecoroller, may need the section replaced on a regular basis (I think the number being quoted for the Ecoroller was every 20 fills or so)?

 

Also, will the Noodler RB work with some of the more chemically exotic Noodler inks, e.g., the BayState series?

 

Regards,

[Truppi327]

Noodler's just released a new roller ball version that fills with (piston fill) bottle ink. It should be in stock early next week on my website isellpens.com .

I know it must be too early for "long term usage" reports, but is there any sense that the Noodler Stylographic RB, like the Rembrandt Ecoroller, may need the section replaced on a regular basis (I think the number being quoted for the Ecoroller was every 20 fills or so)?Also, will the Noodler RB work with some of the more chemically exotic Noodler inks, e.g., the BayState series?Regards,

 

Noodler's does sell replacement tips, 4 for $1 by mail, for if the tip wears out. I haven't seen anything about how long it takes, I assume a longish time.

 

It seems, from the literature and youtube videos, that this pen will handle any of the exotic Noodler's colors. Baystates, Kung Te-cheng, and Legal Lapis worked fine in the FP version of this pen.

[EdwardMarlowe]

What is the attraction of a rollerball that uses fountain pen ink? Not being confrontational, genuine question. I reach for a biro when I need to do something like a postcard or an envelope - something waterproof (for probably obvious reasons I fear the idea of permanent ink in a fountain pen, or, more to the point, the possibility of me having a clumsy accident with same!) - otherwise, always a fountain pen. Is it purely a matter of personal preference, or is there an advantage / alternative writing experience that I'm missing?

[opus7600]

What is the attraction of a rollerball that uses fountain pen ink?

 

The colors and ink qualities I prefer in a form that can handle carbons.

[Truppi327]

What is the attraction of a rollerball that uses fountain pen ink? Not being confrontational, genuine question. I reach for a biro when I need to do something like a postcard or an envelope - something waterproof (for probably obvious reasons I fear the idea of permanent ink in a fountain pen, or, more to the point, the possibility of me having a clumsy accident with same!) - otherwise, always a fountain pen. Is it purely a matter of personal preference, or is there an advantage / alternative writing experience that I'm missing?

IME, it is still often easier to sign receipts with a ballpoint.

A rollerball stylographic pen allows me to use my preferred inks in a different medium.

Also, another inexpensive toy to play with.

[MCosta77777]

you can cheak out the monteverde megaball.

Its a roller with a fountain pen design.

 

IMHO, a very interesting pen

[EdwardMarlowe]

What is the attraction of a rollerball that uses fountain pen ink?

 

The colors and ink qualities I prefer in a form that can handle carbons.

 

Forgive me, my knowledge here is still limited, but... Carbons are a different ink type, one that doesn't 'work' with a nibbed pen? Something like how you can't use India ink in a fountain pen, only a dipper?

 

 

 

IME, it is still often easier to sign receipts with a ballpoint.

A rollerball stylographic pen allows me to use my preferred inks in a different medium.

Also, another inexpensive toy to play with.

 

That I can certainly understand - having bought all the colours in the Waterman Phileas range, I'm now seriously considering buying a different nib size to justify a second of each, with them being only available now as NOS (such a shame - I love these pens. My ideal fountain pen that's not a Parker 51 would be an ebonite Phileas with a fixed filler mechanism in place of the cartridge / converter). 'Another' toy is always the best kind.

[Possum Hill]

What is the attraction of a rollerball that uses fountain pen ink?

 

The colors and ink qualities I prefer in a form that can handle carbons.

 

Forgive me, my knowledge here is still limited, but... Carbons are a different ink type, one that doesn't 'work' with a nibbed pen? Something like how you can't use India ink in a fountain pen, only a dipper?

 

 

 

Carbon here apparently refers to carbon paper which used to be used between the sheets of a multiple copy form. Handling carbons then is being suitable for use on those forms, even though carbon paper is no longer involved. Manifolding nibs on fountain pens were stiff and strong enough to use when making carbon copies and some forms today require so little pressure that my regular FPs work quite well.

[m53al]

Why get a refillable rollerball? I've used rollerballs almost non stop since a customer checked in to the Holiday Inn I was working the front desk of in Washington DC (in my misspent youth I was 19 or so at the time) about 1972 or 73. It was a Uni Pen as I recall- I saw him fill out his guest form with a wet ink ball point and was hooked. He told me where to get one- and I was off to Fahrneys as soon as I got off that day. (I didn't know what a treat that old Fahrneys store/emporium was back then).

I have always preferred blue ink, and with rollerballs there was always the search for blue refills that worked well-and put out a good line. For many years I used a Parker Sterling with rollerball converter -Parker refills were "OK" . Since 1991 I have had a Waterman Gentleman rollerball. When those refills got expensive and other manufacturers came out with refills there has been the pursuit of the best blue refill possible- hopefully at a decent price.

Once I went back to using a fountain pen - not really consistently using one since elementary school- I tried different inks, and like quite a few folks- have now been hooked by the Bay State Blue. So the opportunity to use the BSB in a rollerball is something I have to try! I just ordered one of the Noodlers refillable RBs and I'll have to report how it is after I get it. (Gee- my first non E-Bay pen in I don't know how long!)

(AND my penmanship would make you think I was a doctor!)

Cheers!

vbm

 

 

[rammerman]

I get away with most triplicate forms that are of good quality where i can use a FP nib that is slightly stiff. I work in areas where I have forms that go to 3 different departments (in the medical profession). E.G For an MRI Scan. I need to be absolutely sure that it captures all details.

 

I heard about the noodlers roller ball that can be refilled with bottle ink. I have found a cheap alternative. The legendary chinese HERO company to the rescue. They have taken on a cheap remake of the Sailor TRIDENT pen. Have a look at this link. I have ordered one and am waiting. check this website

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rare-HERO-Fountain-Pen-NOS-Blue-Sailor-Trident-Style-/380286064641?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588ad0d801

 

 

Why get a refillable rollerball? I've used rollerballs almost non stop since a customer checked in to the Holiday Inn I was working the front desk of in Washington DC (in my misspent youth I was 19 or so at the time) about 1972 or 73. It was a Uni Pen as I recall- I saw him fill out his guest form with a wet ink ball point and was hooked. He told me where to get one- and I was off to Fahrneys as soon as I got off that day. (I didn't know what a treat that old Fahrneys store/emporium was back then).

I have always preferred blue ink, and with rollerballs there was always the search for blue refills that worked well-and put out a good line. For many years I used a Parker Sterling with rollerball converter -Parker refills were "OK" . Since 1991 I have had a Waterman Gentleman rollerball. When those refills got expensive and other manufacturers came out with refills there has been the pursuit of the best blue refill possible- hopefully at a decent price.

Once I went back to using a fountain pen - not really consistently using one since elementary school- I tried different inks, and like quite a few folks- have now been hooked by the Bay State Blue. So the opportunity to use the BSB in a rollerball is something I have to try! I just ordered one of the Noodlers refillable RBs and I'll have to report how it is after I get it. (Gee- my first non E-Bay pen in I don't know how long!)

(AND my penmanship would make you think I was a doctor!)

Cheers!

vbm

 

 

[jimhughes]

M53al:

Isellpens, Gouletpens both have Noodler Creapers , in stock. If you can't stand not buying on ebay. There is a fellow who sells Noodler Stylographic, aka Rollerball, Creapers on Ebay. you'll find him at GreenMan508@hotmail.com. No affiliation with 3 firms mentioned. A happy customer of all 3. Enjoy your pen. Mine with BSB is in my pocket now, Jim

Edited November 10, 2010 by jimhughes

[m53al]

Hi Jim,

 

My Noodler "Creaper" is on the way from Isellpens, should get here in a day or so. We will have to communicate again after I get the thing and "play"!

 

E-Bay got to be a bad habit there for a while! But what kicked it off with me was having several less than overly "pleasing" dealings with the Waterman/Sanford repair operation. I found a number of Waterman Gentleman pens -several NOS-(and a couple of Experts) on E-Bay for a LOT less $ than the less than immediately satisfactory service from Waterman Sanford. ($75.00 and had to send it back to get it done right -over MANY weeks-comes to mind.)

 

...and here we are doing our communicating in digital form!

Cheers!

Ben M.

 

M53al:

Isellpens, Gouletpens both have Noodler Creapers , in stock. If you can't stand not buying on ebay. There is a fellow who sells Noodler Stylographic, aka Rollerball, Creapers on Ebay. you'll find him at GreenMan508@hotmail.com. No affiliation with 3 firms mentioned. A happy customer of all 3. Enjoy your pen. Mine with BSB is in my pocket now, Jim

[ClassicHippie]

The Online Highway to Writing pen will take fountain ink.

 

http://www.fahrneyspens.com/ProductImages/XLarge/r151523e.jpg

The ONLINE Highway of Writing pens are compact, colorful and made for cruising! The retro-styled pens fit nicely in the hand and are bound to attract attention in new Blackberry, Raspberry or Peppermint as well as Red or Ivory. The diminutive pens are designed to fit easily into pocket or purse. The fountain pen has a smooth, steel nib that comes in regular or ITALIC MEDIUM point. The twist ball pen uses mini refills. The capped rollerball uses ink cartridges for fluid writing. The pens are presented in painted metal tins with a nostalgic 1950’s print. Specify color when ordering. Cartridge fill only.

Edited November 18, 2010 by ClassicHippie

[rammerman]

Hi,

 

Where does one get these pens? and what is the cost inc shipping to the UK?

 

The Online Highway to Writing pen will take fountain ink.

 

http://www.fahrneyspens.com/ProductImages/XLarge/r151523e.jpg

The ONLINE Highway of Writing pens are compact, colorful and made for cruising! The retro-styled pens fit nicely in the hand and are bound to attract attention in new Blackberry, Raspberry or Peppermint as well as Red or Ivory. The diminutive pens are designed to fit easily into pocket or purse. The fountain pen has a smooth, steel nib that comes in regular or ITALIC MEDIUM point. The twist ball pen uses mini refills. The capped rollerball uses ink cartridges for fluid writing. The pens are presented in painted metal tins with a nostalgic 1950's print. Specify color when ordering. Cartridge fill only.

Edited November 23, 2010 by rammerman

[hobobaggins]

I saw this thread and wondered about that as well, and then picked up a complimentary Noodler creeper with the purchase of a bottle of ink! So far I have not yet touched the ballpoint part of it, but it looks very well made.

[Truppi327]

I saw this thread and wondered about that as well, and then picked up a complimentary Noodler creeper with the purchase of a bottle of ink! So far I have not yet touched the ballpoint part of it, but it looks very well made.

 

Am I understanding correctly? "Complimentary Noodler Creaper" as in free (assuming with ink purchase)? Where?!?!