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I just wonder if the Concord can use a modern screw type converter. Also do regular or long size Waterman cartridges fit to Concord? Thanks

Kamil

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Hello,

I just wonder if the Concord can use a modern screw type converter. Also do regular or long size Waterman cartridges fit to Concord? Thanks

Kamil

 

My Concord uses the standard International size cartridge or the long Waterman and a standard push type converter.

 

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Thanks for the input :thumbup:

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Hello,

I just wonder if the Concord can use a modern screw type converter. Also do regular or long size Waterman cartridges fit to Concord? Thanks

Kamil

 

My Concord uses the standard International size cartridge or the long Waterman and a standard push type converter.

Really? Mine uses a dedicated converter, same as for the cf series.

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Hello,

I just wonder if the Concord can use a modern screw type converter. Also do regular or long size Waterman cartridges fit to Concord? Thanks

Kamil

 

My Concord uses the standard International size cartridge or the long Waterman and a standard push type converter.

Really? Mine uses a dedicated converter, same as for the cf series.

 

Yup, use standard international cartridges in mine. It was from about teh same period as the CFs and so I wonder if there is some transitional issue?

 

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Mine uses the C/F style converter.

I tried the screw type but it was not a good fit; out of interest tried the older type and got a much better fit.

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Hi - I have just bought a Concorde, probably 1970s model looking at the photos, and have the same question - what converter does it take?

 

Grateful for any advice as a newbie on here....thank you

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Mine (small, brushed metal, steel nib) came with an old cf type converter and the section broke at the threads... Metal converter, bad plastic section, an accident waiting to happen. I would find out which plastic cartridge fits and use that, even if it requires filling with a syringe.

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Thanks Senzen. I actually sent the Concorde back to the seller in the end. It had a crack in the grip - a known issue with these - but added to that, was an incredibly lightweight pen and I prefer heavier models. Am now excitecly awaiting delivery of a Waterman Goutte to replace it - much nicer looking and heavier being silver plated. And actually cheaper on ebay. 

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On 6/4/2021 at 5:18 AM, LukeB said:

Thanks Senzen. I actually sent the Concorde back to the seller in the end. It had a crack in the grip - a known issue with these - but added to that, was an incredibly lightweight pen and I prefer heavier models. Am now excitecly awaiting delivery of a Waterman Goutte to replace it - much nicer looking and heavier being silver plated. And actually cheaper on ebay. 

 

Don't mean to scare you, Gouttes also have a pretty bad reputation for the section; I would suggest thoroughly checking it out. Something seems to have happened at Waterman in the 60s and 70s, perhaps with the plastic they used, I also have a Strong (Man 100 ancestor) whose section failed (you could see tiny ink drops seeping through it), its replacement has a worn out ring for holding the cap. I still miss my Concorde but each time I come across one I have to force myself to run away.

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You are spot on Senzen - it's probably the least robust pen I've bought recently and the section not only has a crack at the 'interior' end where you fix the converter, but someone clearly let the ink run into the barrel and left it like that. The section got stuck, and so someone has then used unprotected pliers to grip the section to unscrew it and open the pen up again. Result - a horribly gouged grip (funnily enough, not pictured very clearly on ebay...). HOWEVER, all that said, I am totally in love with the design and it may be the only pen I have that is genuinely silver plated (it has the 'G' hallmark) - though I have just also bought a Diplomat for a vg price which I think may also be silver (may post a pic as I can't find many pics of it). Careful application of a wire scouring pad has smoothed over the worst of the gouges on the Waterman grip and it is now (nearly) back to its old elegance. The CF converter fits well, and the pen cost me £30. I have to say it is much lighter than I thought a silver pen would be - 20g. I prefer 30g or more - which is why I am keen on the Diplomat. That is one fat, heavy pen! The Goutte feels small and light all round, including the nib, which by anyone's standards is basically a 'fine', despite being marked 'medium'.

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