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I have a destroyed clip on a Pilot Elite Sterling Silver Crosshatch that I'd like to remove and swap out from the cap. Has anyone successfully done that and can share how to remove and replace? I don't see from the inside of the cap any sign of a mechanism to release it and I have no clue how to disengage a clip from the cap. What tools are helpful? I've never done it before. I also have a different style clip on another Elite (3rd photo), that is loose which I'd like to tighten.

Good day, I’m a new member from Chicago and I have a fledgling collection. The only Pilot I have is a basic metropolitan, yet now, I’m quite interested in a higher-end model like the Custom 845. I’d like to ask you owners about your thoughts about the pen in terms of nib feel, proportion, materials, and value proposition. I love it stylistically. Also, are these Japanese nibs one size smaller than the Western counterparts as I’ve heard? I found it odd that there are some fellows in Japan that have it at a steep discount, around $500, compared to the normal $900 retail here. Are those legitimate? Thanks for your input and time. Respectfully, Brian

Hello Everyone! I recently purchased this pen, and am eager to learn as much about it as possible. What are the best resources for any information on this pen? I would love to learn as much about its entire history as I am able to. From the artist, to any of the old marketing information or catalog information, or pictures of the original box and papers, etc. etc. I have no idea what I bought or if I got a good deal, I just know I love the look of it and can't wait for it to arrive. As far as I can tell its from the 70's? Thanks!

Hi, I'd like to present the comparison of 20 grey inks. To be honest, I don't like grey and I don't use it. I don't own a single bottle of grey ink Yet I've managed to gather quite a lot of samples and decided to make some use of them. I've made long introduction to this comparison on polish fountain pen forum but here I'll keep it simple and just say one thing: enjoy One note: my sample of GREY FLANNEL was contaminated. I decided to leave this but just skip this ink. It's not how it really looks like. If you like this comparison feel free to comment or to indicate your favourite greys. ALL WRITTEN SAMPLES ARE MADE WITH PILOT 78G WITH BROAD NIB INK SPLASHES http://imageshack.com/a/img674/1338/wgRutR.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img673/3771/Gbwu2G.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img661/6152/X8CPNA.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img674/353/v7FP4f.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img674/2434/aWPg6u.jpg COLOR "GEMS" CUT FROM THE SWAB PHOTO http://imageshack.com/a/img536/1733/iDKbvl.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img910/2241/Q0D85y.jpg SWABS http://imageshack.com/a/img631/5290/fAsx5H.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img540/381/v7punf.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img536/2843/gQJuWx.jpg

It seems there's no Diamine's Brilliant Red review on FPN (not in review index) so I thought I can share my review originally posted on polish fountain pen enthusiasts forum. I'm sorry the text on photos is in polish, however I didn't have time to repeat all the process and write another review in english. Anyway the color is more important than these few sentences that basically say how much I enjoy this ink. SWAB (photo taken on a sunny day) http://imageshack.com/a/img819/861/ccak.jpg Two drops of ink on kitchen towel: http://imageshack.com/a/img34/8626/nqfu.jpg My software identifies this color as follows: http://imageshack.com/a/img59/7483/pik8.jpg INFORMATIONS Producer: Diamine Color: Brilliant Red Saturation: strong Flow: very good in Pilot 78G with B nib Shading: present, I like it Dry time: OK http://imageshack.com/a/img855/5479/zmed.jpg Do I like it: Yes, a lot. Photos : text was written with Pilot 78G with B nib 1. On copy paper printed with dots http://imageshack.com/a/img513/8977/qhec.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img834/5139/fch0.jpg 2. Text written in Oxford notebook http://imageshack.com/a/img849/3446/i1hn.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img829/467/0whb.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img89/1182/sjxj.jpg

In December 2007 Pilot's created exclusive line of inks called Iroshizuku. I believe they may well be the most well known fountain pen inks in pen world. These inks are supposed to work in any pen with any nib on any paper and in any situation. I haven't tried all of them but so far the Iroshizuku inks I've tried were behaving flawlessly. The colors were created by Kiyomi Hasegawa who after fifteen years of working in a stationary shop and communicating with Clients come to conclusion that not all fountain pen users are willing to write in black and blue. Wise woman. The bottles are stunning although they have their issues: if the ink is left unused for some time the cap tends to stick and break when you try to twist it open. It happened to my bottle of Shin-Ryoku. Anyway Iroshizuku line of inks counts 24 "standard" colors. Three inks were made some time ago for Tokyo stores: Edo-Murasaki, Fukagawa-Nezu and Shimbashi-Iro.After seeing the scans over blogosphere I wish these three were accesible, because they look interesting. Edo - Murasaki looks cool while Murasaki - Shikibu is of no interest to me. Even though I kind of like Fuyu-Syogun I find Fukagawa-Nezu more compelling. Nothing indicates Pilot plans on extending the official line any time soon (if ever) so let's take a look at what's possible to obtain from dealers and online shops. http://imageshack.com/a/img538/1595/lYAayJ.jpg I don't have all of the inks but sooner or later I'll try to check them all. With time I'll review all of them (hopefully). Ajisai Ama-Iro Asa-Gao Chiku-Rin Fuyu-Gaki Fuyu-Syogun Ina-Ho Kiri-Same Kon-Peki Kosumosu Ku-Jaku Momiji Murasaki-Shikibu Shin-Kai Shin-Ryoku Syo-Ro Take-Sumi Tsuki-Yo Tsukushi Tsutsuji Tsuyu-Kusa Yama-Budo Yama-Guri Yu-Yake Kosumosu's color is inspired by and named after cosmos flower: http://imageshack.com/a/img540/2040/BUqa2T.jpg Waterproofness: http://imageshack.com/a/img538/1902/Pu96jW.jpg Ink Splash http://imageshack.com/a/img673/9306/cKBUyB.jpg Drops of ink on kitchen towel http://imageshack.com/a/img540/6708/HabNkp.jpg Software ID http://imageshack.com/a/img911/8840/wXC75P.jpg Oxford Recycled ( 90g), Kaweco Classic Sport, eyedropper, stalówka B http://imageshack.com/a/img661/3087/k3FqNI.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img911/6248/gPdazU.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img538/8239/66xpSH.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img538/6969/3dwmom.jpg Calendar, Pilot CH92 http://imageshack.com/a/img537/9237/BTSMl1.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img903/6940/oQxTpV.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img537/2423/xpNghd.jpg Cheap notebook, Pilot CH 92 http://imageshack.com/a/img540/3259/HeSnZe.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img673/6525/7qVIK5.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img537/2130/jaNKQ2.jpg

What is this pen? What is the brand / producer / origin? What model is this? This is a pen given to me by my father in early 80-ties. I used it for a couple of years as my every day pen. I cannot identify the producer nor the model. Must be produced somewhere in 1970-ties ot late 1960-ties? Much likely to be from China ? Maybe Japan? Maybe someone is able to read the signature on the nib?

Pilot Red This was the the fifth and last of blind ink testing series. The fourth I had already reviewed (J Herbin Vert de gris). Thanks @Lithium466 for the sample. It’s not easy to find. But if you need an eye searing red, it might be for you. This ink writes vermillion and the colour changes depending on the paper. It’s a difficult colour to describe. It’s very bright, so prepare your sunglasses. 😎 It is very wet, almost too wet. Paradoxically, very fast dry times on Rhodia, and well behaved on copy paper. It’s not a colour that I could write with, but I enjoyed doing some art work with it. I doubt it’s a suitable ink for wet pens. It didn’t stain the clear nib creaper body but cleaning it was a pain and easy for the Kakuno. The ink is referred to as E. chroma: Writing Samples: Photo: Comparison: Water test: Left side 10 seconds under running water. Sample written with glass nib, so much more than usual pen. Art Work: Part of the Inktober yearly challenge 2024, prompt was Aware. Noodler's Lexington Gray/ Pilot Red Paper is Fabriano Sketchbook (super absorbent paper_ Note how with a water brush one can lighten the ink. This was done on Talens Mixed media paper. You can see the different shade of pink and red, just like the Flanders' poppy. Other inks used, J Herbin Vert de gris, and Noodler's Lexington Gray. · Pens used: Pilot Kakuno Ef, Lamy (EF/F/M/B, BB), Noodler’s Nib creeper semi flex · What I liked: Drawing, fast dry time. · What I did not like: Very wet, colour is too bright for everyday use. · What some might not like: Colour. · Shading: On Tomoe River 68 gr. · Ghosting: No, faint · Bleed through faint depending pen nib combination. · Flow Rate: Very wet · Lubrication: slightly below average · Nib Dry-out: Did not notice. · Start-up: Ok · Saturation: Bright. · Shading Potential: It has some potential. · Sheen: No. · Spread / Feathering / Woolly Line: Did not notice. · Nib Creep / “Crud”: Did not notice. · Staining (pen): Did not notice. · Clogging: Did not notice. · Cleaning: The Kakuno was a breeze, the Lamy needed a cleaning solution, so did the Nib creaper. · Water resistance: Meh · Availability: 40 ml bottles. Please don't hesitate to share your experience, writing samples or any other comments. The more the merrier

I have Sailor 1911 L Sailor Compass aka Profit Junior Platinum 3776 Century Platinum President Pilot 74 Pilot 78g Muji pen

My girlfriend has one of those purple "retro-pop" Pilot Metros with a transplanted 1.1 stub nib from a Plumix. She keeps complaining that it's "leaking," which seems to mean that when she uncaps it to use it there's ink all over the section, so she gets inky fingers. I've inspected it fairly closely over the course of several weeks and I can't find anything wrong with it - no cracks in the section, the nib/feed is sitting properly, I've swapped out a couple of different cartridges / converters, etc., all the usual suspects. I have noticed on my own two Metros that a substantial quantity of ink appears to pool under the hood of the nib, sometimes even working its way around to the under side of the feed. If you give either pen a pretty good shake ink will come splashing out and splatter all over your paper. I realize that fountain pens should, generally, be treated gently. However, my other similarly priced pens do not exhibit this behavior - I have a Platinum Plaisir (F), a Kaweco Classic Sport (1.1 stub), and a Parker Urban (M) inked up in daily use and they do not splatter when shook. My suspicion is that there is something about the design of the Metro that leads to this ink pool forming (since I observe it in all three of our pens) and that in my girlfriend's case, living as it does in the pen-loop of her padfolio, at various points throughout the day her pen is sometimes jostled, leading to ink from the pool spraying all over the interior of the cap. I know this is a cheap pen, but she really loves it, and I would like to make it useable for her, if I can. Has anyone else observed this phenomenon or come up with a way to solve it? Thanks! - N

Somehow I did it again and managed to buy too many Royal Blue inks. It's far from my favourite blue hue but nevertheless useful in broad nibs. In any case, it gave me the opportunity to compare them. The first picture is of what I wrote on a scrap of Lalo 100g paper. It's not a great picture but you can probably see that there's not much difference between Montblanc, Pelikan 4001 and Faber-Castell Königsblau. Pilot Blue, which was added for comparison, is similar but yet slightly more blue (apologies for the tautology but I can't put it otherwise). Also note that the unlabelled cotton swab at the bottom is Pilot Blue. Then I folded the paper, so that only the right part remained visible and left it exposed to the spring sun for a month. The second photograph shows the deterioration of all inks but especially of Montblanc Royal Blue and, surprisingly, Pilot Blue. Pelikan and its presumed sibling Faber-Castell fared slightly better. Finally, I put a wet finger across the paper and then blotted it with a tissue. All inks but Pilot Blue were affected. Bottom line: everything as expected, although I thought that Pilot Blue was more UV resistant.

Anyone able to compare the CH 912 FA nib and the regular Pilot Falcon nib? I recently purchased the Falcon and now I'm having buyer's regret hearing that the FA nib on the Custom Heritage 912 and the Custom 742 are even better.

PRELUDE A sharp twist in the clip This is going to be an unrated review in addition to an eulogy for one of my beloved blue Pilot Bamboo pens, which met its ultimate demise at the hands of an evil FedEx carrier. I would probably have spent more time pondering this loss, than Juliette would have done while finalizing the pen's design. Okay, I was joking. To bring this narrative to a point, I had noticed that the clip had lost its rose gold plating over the years. When I received confirmation from Namiki Repairs, along with their generous offer to re-plate the clip for a service fee, I was filled with joy. So, I packaged the pen in my ever-trustworthy Sheaffer hard shell box. This box has been my faithful companion for servicing various pens (including a Scribo, Pelikan M800, Pilot C823, and more) over the last few years. It has traveled to Germany, Italy, and probably a few other countries across the globe without even getting a crack. However, this trip from San Francisco to Florida was doomed. I kept the fountain pen section with me and sent the pen with the rollerball attachment. I thought I had packaged it well with bubble wrap and other protective materials, drawing from my own experience of sending pens for repair both domestically and internationally. I shared the below picture the fountain pen community on Reddit, and the group chimed on the importance of armor-like packaging for expensive items, citing the continuously degrading logistics services of carriers like FedEx. As fate would have it, I had insured the pen at a relatively lower amount ($200) when shipping it. However, FedEx eventually approved the claim for $200 plus shipping costs. The FedEx representative had suggested a lower amount, around $20, but fortunately, I didn't heed that advice. I am still awaiting the arrival of the reimbursement check. Then, when I reached out to Regina Martini, who always seems to have a few more pieces of rare pens, I was fortunate to find a store sample (a black rollerball) at a good price. It arrived within 3 days. If you like a pictorial blogger view, here is the link: Pursuit of an elusive Pilot Bamboo PRESENTATION The luxury of yesteryears The second Bamboo came in a luxurious packaging, probably meant for European markets. White cardboard box market with the Pilot logo, with a pull out ribbon, oh that finesse of gifts of yore. I appreciate it in its essence, since these boxes are temporal and will eventually find their way into the recycling plant. Once you pull out the sleeve there is foam cut to compartments. The middle one houses the Bamboo pen inside a black Pilot branded cotton sleeve. And since it’s a rollerball there are two spare refills thrown inside the box. The papers are in the last compartment, which carry branding of Pilot Corporation of Europe. The instruction manual seems generic one meant for fountain pens. I highly doubt that Regina has very kindly shipped me a spare box meant for the fountain pens, since this pen was a store sample. DESIGN Symbolism The Bamboo pen, as per the original sales description, is meant to represent the shape of a bamboo stem, which symbolizes enlightenment in Buddhism. Buddhist literatures mention that King Bimbisara presented a bamboo grove to Lord Buddha and his community of monks. The characteristics of a bamboo stem - strength, flexibility, and growth, are synonymous with qualities valued in Buddhism. In certain Asian cultural precepts such as Feng Shui or Vastu Shastra, bamboo is believed to bestow divine providences such as peace, joy, and positivity. A book called Old Path White Clouds by Thich Nhat Hanh, contains stories of the Buddha from his many lives, and I found deep inspiration in it during my teens. The pen was designed by a French designer named Juliette Bonnamour, who purportedly had a passion for writing instruments. In my humble opinion, she was quite successful in amalgamating certain cultural aspects with a writing instrument. The pen itself has an appealing appearance, resembling a bamboo stem with slightly angled/tapered finials on either end. While a bamboo is hollow, I would liken this structure more to that of a sugarcane. However, naming it Namiki Sugarcane would have been inappropriate, if not ungodly. Let's stick with Bamboo. The curvature of the pen is quite unique compared to others. It's akin to a graduated cylinder, thinnest at the barrel end and gradually increasing in diameter as it approaches the midsection where the cap threads meet the barrel threads. Then, there's a slight decrease in diameter as it reaches the cap end of the finial. There are around seven rings around the midsection of the barrel. In Buddhism, there are seven factors of awakening: mindfulness, study, energy, joy, tranquility, concentration, and equanimity. While it's uncertain whether these influenced the design of the Bamboo, the number seven holds a degree of sacredness in Vedic philosophy as well. It is said that one must pass the kundalini through the seven energy centers or chakras to achieve enlightenment. The cap unscrews from the barrel with 1.75 turns, revealing why this pen feels so substantial in hand. The threads on the barrel, as well as the inside threads of the cap, are metallic. There is a step down from the barrel, and the rollerball and fountain pen sections are very similar in design, each adorned with a lone steel ring on the section. The continuity of the bamboo rings is evident in the design of the pen itself. In this case, the cap features a rose gold clip, which is not a usual Pilot clip. It has a slightly convex curvature with some resemblance to a bamboo stem. The plating shows some wear, but I can live with it for now. The finial although unadorned, carries its own imprint. The tapered finials of the cap and the barrel always align themselves to meet at a finite angle. FILLING & CLEANING SYSTEMS Cartridge Converter (Rollerball barrel can take in a CON-40/20/50/B not a 70) The barrel unscrews from the section with almost four turns. As you can observe, the section has metal threading that syncs with the metal threads of the barrel. Since this is a rollerball, it cannot accommodate the longer CON-70 converter without compressing the inner spring at the end of the barrel. However, the other proprietary converters or even cartridges fit well. I have tested the pen with a CON-40/20 and a CON-B converter, and they work fine with the rollerball barrel. I have a quibble about ink capacity, but it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. I found it easier to clean the section with the eye dropper that comes with a Pilot Parallel. NIB - ALL THAT MATTERS Frost-smitten Pilot #10 14K. The nib was originally released in three stock widths - F, M & B across Japan and other countries. The frosted frontiers create an elegant contrast to the rest of the white silvery luster of the nib. An elongated hexagonal imprint separates the design from the outer shoulders and tines, featuring arabesque decorations within its borders, encompassing the circular breather hole in the center. The branding and nib specifications of PILOT, 14k-585 (58.5% Gold Alloy) are imprinted below the breather hole, along with the nib size and width. The date code on the left shoulder of this nib is A903 (Plant-Month-Year), indicating a manufacturing period of September 2003, with symbol A signifying the Hiratsuka factory's production line A. Below is a list of codes sourced from Richard Binder’s blog, which may be helpful if you're just beginning to survey all the Pilot nibs you own. I did that already. T: Tokyo factory (in Shimura, Itabashi ward) H: Hiratsuka factory (in Kanagawa prefecture) A: Hiratsuka, production line A B: Hiratsuka, production line B F: Thailand, Burma, India, or Brazil Once you turn the nib, the first thing you'll notice is the feed. A standard bluish grey plastic feed with moderately spaced fins with a decently sized feeder hole delivers the good ink buffer. These feeds are pretty well made and render moderate wetness to the nibs. PHYSICS OF IT – RELATIVELY SPEAKING The Newtonian Laws Although there's a step down from the barrel to the section, I find it comfortable to grip. The diameter of the gripping section is larger than that of a typical Pilot 742 series or a similar pen (such as a Dunhill AD2000) with a #10 nib, due to the additional piece of concentric cylinder above the aesthetic ring of the section. The weight is well balanced by the metal inserts in the barrel, cap, and section. Below are the pictures along with a Conid Minimalistica for a comparative reference. Here go the dimensions. Uncapped Length ~ 12.9 cm Total Length ~ 15 cm Exposed Nib Leverage ~ 2.2 cm The weight of the pen is comforting even without the cap. Overall Weight ~ 32.5 g (inked, without cap ~19) WRITING & FINAL COMMENTS Writes soft and beautiful The writing experience with this nib so far matches the experience I have had with other 14k nibs from Pilot, including the superb #15 nib of a Custom 823. The nib writes moderately wet, without any issues of drying out. It writes softly with a hint of feedback and a sense of control, which is perfect for me, though less springy than a #15 nib. This is a relatively stiff nib, even though some line variation can be achieved with moderate pressure. It's not quite my preference, but its softness more evident than, say a Sailor 21k nib on the 1911L or its equivalent. On Endless Regalia 80 GSM paper, the drying time for lines with Sailor Yama Dori ink is approximately 25-30 seconds. One aspect to consider regarding the step in the section is that the Bamboo provides a longer section compared to the typical 742 or a similar pen equipped with a #10 nib. Compared to a Dunhill AD2000 the pen appears to have a longer section. I find the AD2000 18k nib somewhat softer than the Bamboo. I do not think that the pen was designed to be posted given the metal threading inside the cap. The Bamboo feels quite well balanced even without posting the cap. To be honest, the rollerball version is also a pleasure to write with. Thank you for going through the review. You can find other pen and paraphernalia reviews here. REFERENCES Nib Codes

Greetings! I was recently gifted with two fountain pens and two bottles of ink from a friend in her 70s. They'd been sat in her husband's desk for so many years that neither of them can remember getting them or ever using them. One is a Waterman; some Google-fu suggests it's a Laureate? M gold (plated?) nib. It was used as it had an empty long international cartridge in it. It writes so nicely! I love how slender it is. One is a Pilot; steel M nib. No other markings or indications. Appeared to have never been used. Writes okay with the Waterman ink; not as smooth as my newer Pilot Metropolitans. Two bottles of ink: Waterman Washable Blue Ink and Pilot Shin-Ryoku. The blue is meh but that Shin-Ryoku is a gorgeous teal. Any ideas how old these might be? Seems like maybe from the 80s or 90s? I assume they don't have high value but are nice enough pens to add to my small collection...and I am really liking that Waterman. Edited to add: What exactly constitutes "vintage" when it comes to fountain pens and ink?

Ina-Ho is intriguing ink, it's hard to describe its color. Let's just say it's interesting, because it really is, take a look at the chromatography. But first the bottle: Bottle http://imageshack.com/a/img540/7702/SAJvCC.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img538/3772/mQxy7h.jpg INK SPLASH http://imageshack.com/a/img540/9265/AvVSUu.jpg DROP OF INK http://imageshack.com/a/img904/6391/Xk2NVa.jpg CHROMATOGRAPHY http://imageshack.com/a/img908/9713/4a2xDG.jpg SOFTWARE IDENTIFICATION http://imageshack.com/a/img537/7758/j9JxGf.jpg COLOR RANGE (made with PS gradient tool) http://imageshack.com/a/img913/7550/5o8EfJ.jpg Calendar - Kaweco Sport Classic, broad nib http://imageshack.com/a/img911/7822/3xKJ04.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img661/2890/BCmTf0.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img661/7748/hsgmeO.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img540/2314/gxjh8G.jpg

A friend's pen (Pilot Heritage 91 <M> tip) with a con 40 has drystarting problems. The tines are good, the feed matches with the breather hole, and the ink used is a wet ink (Waterman inspired Blue) and they are using Rhodia paper. During writing, if the tip of the nib is lifted for more than 2 seconds, the tip dries up and so in the next word to be written(or even letter) there is drystarting. While the tip touches the paper the nib is perfect: wet with no skipping. But the moment the tip leaves the paper, it immediately dries up. So what I did is I starting writing and when I stopped, I immediately checked the tip and I saw that within 1.5 - 2 sec. the ink that was on the tip was sucked in the nib. Is that normal? That doesn't happen with my Metropolitan, where the ink stays on the tip after writing, even with the driest of inks. Help would be very much appreciated.

Hello, I'm planning to purchase a Pilot Custom 823 and while searching on how to clean and maintain the O rings, I saw lots of warnings on how even unscrewing the piston assembly once, with the right tool, can result in the barrel cracking (and ofc loosing the warranty). Is there any way to lubricate the O ring without this risk? Is lubricating the ring even necessary?

I saw on reddit chatter that the Burgundy Elite 95s has been discontinued, I just checked the website and only the black version is listed. Noticing the "new" tag on the Custom Heritage 91, I clicked on it and saw that this model is now apparently also only in black available. Very odd to discontinue colours completely instead of adding, Sailor is selling like crazy with all the colours and Platinum has been adding more colour as well. Anyone know more about this or any musings? https://www.pilot.co.jp/products/pen/fountain/ https://www.pilot.co.jp/products/pen/fountain/fountain/customheritage91/ https://www.pilot.co.jp/products/pen/fountain/fountain/elite95s/

Except from the shape and the converter included, is there any other difference? Don't they use the same nib?

I have a pilot cavalier and I'm looking to buy a converter. I've read some comments recommending the con-20 but it seems neither jetpens nor amazon carry that. The con-70 seems like the best one pilot offers, but it looks pretty thick and I'm afraid it might not fit into the thin barrel of the cavalier. Any ideas?

I just got a rather good deal for a NOS vintage Pilot Capless. This is the quite sought after 1970's aluminum bodied CN-400BS/CN-500BS version. While I don't usually succumb to the temptation of buying pens at this price, I was really drawn in by the packaging of this one that I end up pulling the trigger on it (it's still well below the price of a new current generation Capless, though). Now back to the packaging, I really like the cylindrical shape and free-standing layout. I think it complements the "futuristic" look of the pen very nicely. I'm not familiar enough about vintage Pilot packaging, but I haven't seen this type before. I've seen another NOS example of this pen sold here before, but it came with the regular style flip case with a leather-like exterior. And quick online search I did before buying also didn't turn out any leads, which just made me want to buy it more!

I've done some searching but couldn't quite find what I'm looking for. I recently purchased a VP with a Fine nib and it's just finer than I would like, so I'm planning on getting a Medium nib unit later in the month. Later in the year I'm hoping to get my hands on a Custom 823. Before I got my VP I was thinking about getting the 823 in a Fine but now I'm likely to go with the medium. Only thing is, from what I've read on the forums, Pilot's VP Medium writes rather similarly to a Western Medium and that there's no real happy medium. Is this the case with the 823? How does a VP Medium compare to a 823 Medium? Thanks in advance for any input