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  1. Waltz For Zizi

    The Better One

    If anyone has both pens Between the Parker Premier (the modern one, with a push cap) and the Waterman l'etalon, which one has the better built quality? (since both have similar nibs and feeds) I heard something about the Premier that the clip breaks easy on them. Which would you recommend as build quality goes?
  2. sidthecat

    Ringtop Waterman Dripping

    I was writing with one of my Watermans: a 52 1/2v with a Medium nib, when ink started to POUR out of the nib. I looked around on the repair forum for a cause, and the best suggestion was a catastrophic sac failure. A peculiarity of Los Angeles air is that its corrosive to rubber, so this is a plausible idea. But I thought Id throw it out to the knowledge base: any other ideas? Many thanks.
  3. I happened upon some new-old-stock bottles of "Waterman's Permanent Blue Black" ink. They were in pristine condition, and the cap sealing was good such that no ink appears to have evaporated. I see no precipitate or any other issues. The ink has a chemical scent I can't quite identify accurately, but it makes me think of paint and art supplies, for the lack of better description. I don't know if this ink has any amount of iron gall or not, but I suspect it has a small amount. If anyone wishes to contribute to this ink's description and dating, it would be great. The bottle has the following embossed on the underside: There are no visible dates on the bottle or the carton, but the following is stamped on the inner side of one of the carton flaps in black ink with silver shimmer--and it's difficult to read. Box #1: Box #2: The ink itself goes down on the page in a cool-toned (with a very slight purple tinge) hue of medium saturation and then dries to a muted very slightly teal-tinted blue. The color change is gradual over the next day or so to what you see on the photographs. The final color of the ink is quite consistent with the bottle cap. I can't explain why that is, but, subjectively, the color of this ink feels just right to me -- a classic. The water resistance test was a wash under running water, 3 days after the writing was done. I really like the look of the paper towel "chromatography" -- medium blue fading to slightly more cyan vintage light blue to almost cream. The more ink is concentrated, the more the blue is shifted toward green, as can be seen on the Col-o-Ring card. There is some red-magenta sheen. Not sure if I am going to hold on to both bottles yet--I got them out of curiosity, but it turned out that the ink inside was surprisingly good. And the bottle, along with the carton, look great on my desk. That "19 cents" printed price
  4. theodore94

    Info On Solid Gold Waterman C/f

    I have my eye on a solid gold Waterman C/F, but the seller doesn't have much information. Does anyone know when they were made, if there's anything special about the solid gold ones, how much they tend to go for?
  5. sidthecat

    Puzzle Pen

    Heres a little oddity: this little ringtop has a detachable cap that fits over the cap - it pulls off to reveal a ringless top. Perhaps the owner wished to cover all the bases, whatever those bases were. Anyone seen this thing in the catalogues, or is it a one-off?
  6. Ignore the pen at the top of the picture, it was an easy one to figure out. The quill at the bottom has a number 2 nib, double bands top and bottom, and the extension at the opposite end as the nib screws in and out. For a basic test, I dipped it, but did not flex too hard because the nib is untuned and is a bit toothy yet. Unsurprisingly, the sac is toast, it is very hard. The body (the length between the section and the screw in extension) is 3 and 5/16th long. The length from nib tip to tapered end is 8 inches long. The base is gold veined black marble with green felt underneath with the Waterman label.
  7. Hello! I purchased a Gothic gold Waterman 52 1/2V from Ebay some time back. Upon opening the package, I was greeted with a strong smell similar to paint thinner. I sighed and immediately checked the section and barrel. Sure enough, I saw a clear ring of some sort of sealant between the two. The smell has not dissipated much a few months later, and I am still unsure whether it is the sealant or someone has tried to soak the section in a solvent. The hard rubber still has its black sheen, so it couldn't have been something that would cause it to go dull. After reading a bit on this forum and some other pen restoration websites, I tried carefully heating the barrel with a hairdryer (I am fairly new to fountain pens and do not yet have a heat gun). The section still wouldn't pull out of the barrel. I do not know whether I am not applying enough heat or whether the sealant has a higher melting temp than the hard rubber. Anyone have other ideas for what the sealant could be or what to do? Should I try again with heat and not be so skittish this time? Just send it to a professional?
  8. Hi, I'll be going on my monthly pen hunt in a few days and I wanted to try out the world of vintage pens. Which vintage pen would you recommend to a first time vintage user?
  9. Stitchpunk

    Any Idea Of Value On This?

    I paid NZ$200 for this Canadian-made 92v (pocket sized) Waterman in brown lizard finish. It's in excellent condition with no scratches or damage and a nice semi-flex nib, and has been restored to full working order. I'd like to get an idea of value, mainly for insurance purposes, but also so that if I ever decide to sell it I have some idea of what price to set. I keep looking in the forums and on eBay, but have yet to see anything similar to offer me any guidance! Can anyone give me at least a vague idea?
  10. Dear Friends Kindly help in choosing one pen from below mentioned 2 fountain pens. Please note that its an appreciation award program hence I am not aware of Nib type etc. I have the option to see the pic and model name and that's all. A) CROSS AT0086-74MS Chrome Century Fountain PenB.) WATERMAN Hemisphere Deluxe Silk Black CT-Fountain Pen Kindly suggest which one I should choose. ThanksSarvesh Shekhar.
  11. I have recently started collecting vintage (and some more recent) fountain pens. I have snagged some Waterman, Montblanc, and Parkers. The prices on the Montblanc and Parker pens seem very predictable, almost as if the price is established by formula. Waterman Vintage pens seem to vary wildly, depending upon the time of day, and which way the wind is blowing. I have tried to figure out what colors are common, and which are harder to find. I have tried to train my eyes on how to tell the colors apart, depending upon the level of fading it has had. There are clearly some nib preferences which are showing in the prices, with the more plyable flex nibs garnering better prices. The silver clad versions of the pens are very odd. Many times they are going for scarcely more than a faded and mismatched celluloid-only verson of the same pen (and in a common color no less). Other times, I see the seller demanding prices for sterling overlays pens which make me wonder if it is silver plated over gold (humor attempted). Even after reviewing thousands of listings today, the focus has only slightly improved. But I did find a few which showed obvious signs they wanted to come home to me. I have been told that one of the reference books has prices which are highly dated, and not to be relied upon. Even the most basic question eludes me. General numbers in the industry indicate the sale of fountain pens have seen a gentle increase of the past few years. Is the same true of vintage pens? Or is it a case that older guys who want the vintage pens are dying off, and creating a glut on the used market for vintage pens... I clearly have no reference for this, as I am new to this game. If anyone could share their opinion or view on these questions, it would be greatly appreciated. For the moment, I am a bit stumped, and don't know if I am getting great deals, or playing a rube.
  12. Hello, Ive been lurking (and loving all the expertise) for a while but as a relative FP newbie, this is my first post, and I was motivated to overcome my reticence by desperation:-/ I recently snagged a decent Waterman Expert I off eBay, and it was actually one of my favorite writers, minimal corrosion on the nib and dreamily smooth and wet enough to keep up with my fast writing speed. THEN I lent it to a friend (a long time FP enthusiast!) who accidentally sprung the nib by mashing on it to see if it would flex :-/ The tines look tight to the naked eye, but under a loupe, you can see they are slightly sprung. I think the worse problem, however, is that the nib has lifted off the feed, creating a gap too large for the capillary action to work. If you prime it well, it will write a word or two and then totally stops. Ive tried gently coaxing the nib against the feed, but to no avail, and I dont want to make it worse. The feed and nib both feel tight relative to the section. I dont know if this is a friction fit or a threaded section... Anyway! I will attempt to post pictures now and any thoughts are very much appreciated! Thank you!! -Erica
  13. I recently acquired a nice set of Waterman products in a Waterman pouch. I know the fountain pen is a Waterman MAN 100, but wonder if the pencil and ballpoint accompanying the fountain pen are also MAN 100. The ballpoint and pencil are both slightly smaller than the fountain pen and the pencil has a black background with a gold W on the cap end, while the fountain pen and the ballpoint have a gold background with a black W. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
  14. I use a number of Waterman inks, which I think are fairly unique and much beloved. But today at my B&M store I was told that they are going to phase out Waterman inks and I was shocked. Here is what they told me to be the reasons: 1.) They stock less and less Waterman pens. 2.) Customers complain that the ink is too thin and just runs through the feed too quickly. Well, in my experience Waterman inks belong to the most well-behaved in the business. I've never had any problems with them at all and I use a very wide range of pens from the 1920s to current. So, what's really behind it? Do you have similar experience? Do you have problems with Waterman inks when not writing with a Waterman pen? Could it be that the ink is too cheap compared to the insane prices of the other inks they carry (GvFC, Montblanc, Cd'A, Pelikan Edelstein)?
  15. I love writing with Waterman's mysterious blue ink and used it for years. But now it's increasingly difficult to find where I live and so I wonder if anybody here, knowing the original by Waterman, could suggest a good replacement. Is there anything similar by Diamine (a brand easy to find here)? Your suggestions are very much appreciated.
  16. In this post I will review the Waterman Expert Deluxe Fountain Pen. The one which I have has a fine nib. Official Product Link of the pen Flipkart Link from where I bought the pen Background: I have been using the Waterman Expert for more than 3 years. It is my second waterman pen. Prior to this I had owned the Waterman Phileas and being really satisfied with that I decided to go in for another waterman. This pen also has the fine nib like my Phileas. This was also the most expensive pen in my collection at the time of purchase. In short I had a lot of expectations from this pen even before I had tried it out. Appearance & Design (1-10) - 8/10 - An appealing design. I went in for the deluxe version in black colour. It has a metallic cap with chrome finish. It has five horizontal bands and has a sloping top. The clip has a slit in the middle just like any other waterman. You can also find waterman and paris written at the base of the cap in white over a black band. The barrel is black lacquer over a metal body and has chrome bands to match the cap. It has a steel nib which also matches the cap colour. Overall the pen has only two colours - chrome and black and they are well-coordinated. As a whole the pen follows a cigar shape with it being wide at the middle and narrower at the ends. The grip section is comfortable to hold with the width increasing just above the nib to prevent your fingers from slipping. The pen looks upmarket and has a good design. Construction & Quality (1-10) - 8/10 - The pen is solidly built. The construction quality is good and the pen feels solidly built. There is nothing much to complain and the pen can handle some abuse. (I have never this pen so I don't know what would happen).Even after 3 years of fairly regular use this pen is in good condition. I am happy with the construction. Weight & Dimensions (1-10) - 9/10 - Balanced when unposted. The weight of the pen feels just right. It is neither very heavy nor can you call it light. I have fairly big hands and the pen fits in well posted as well as unposted. This pen is thicker than its sibling, the waterman hemisphere. Personally I find the thickness of the pen to be just right and the hemisphere is too slim for me. This pen has a very heavy cap so I prefer to write with the cap unposted. Having the cap posted seems to alter the balance for the worse and it feels as if you have to hold the pen in your its position rather than it naturally resting in your hand. Nib & Performance (1-10) - 10/10 - Wonderful Nib. The pen I have is with a Fine nib. The nib is made out of steel and there is nothing fancy about it. It is a relatively small in size. What you expect from a nib depends from person to person and this is subjective so one should always take this with a pinch of salt. Here is my opinion... Of all the fine nibs that I have ever tried this is the best. I bought this pen after using the Waterman phileas. That was also a fine nibbed pen and I went for this with similar expectations. The nib is smooth and fast. There have been no issues with any of the inks that I have used with this pen. Being a fine nib the inks are very quick to dry. However off the box the nib was not as smooth and you need to give it some time, write some pages with it and then it shows its true colours. Being a fast and a quick to dry nib it is ideal for note-taking applications or where writing speed is an important factor. I really love this nib and this pen has always remained in my circulation thanks to the nib. Filling System & Maintenance (1-10) - 9/10 - Classic reliable converter. The filling system design and the overall maintenance effort involved with the pen is same as that of any other converter based pen. The converter is the standard waterman converter which can be used across almost all their pens around this range. Since the nib is fine it does not use a lot of ink and a single top up can last a fairly long time. Cost & Value (1-10) - 7/10 I bought my pen online in India from flipkart.com. It cost me around Rs. 5400 that is around USD 80. Depending upon the other pens in your collections you may categorise it as average or an expensive pen. I don't think you can call it cheap in any way. At the time of purchase it was the most expensive pen in my collection. For what it costs it is a pretty simple device. It has the classic looks and performs well. Depending on what you expect from this price point you may either by happy or disappointed. Thus, this again is a very subjective score. In my opinion this pen was "expensive" at the time of purchase but after some years of use I feel that the money was well spend and I am satisfied with my investment. Conclusion (Final score [sUM/6]: X) - 8.5/10 It is a wonderful pen. It is not too fancy but has everything that it should have. Feels like a complete package. It is that sort of pen which very few people will dislike and you will need to put in some efforts to find any shortcomings. It is that pen which may not have many "fans" but which is liked by most of its owners. It is a safe bet to go with and I recommend this pen. Link to my blog where this review is posted
  17. I have a Waterman ballpoint and case given to me in the 1970’s. I ask for help in identifying the model and name they assigned to it. I do not see any comparable pens on various websites due to the 2 rings on the bottom portion of the barrel and its tapered curve. The cap snaps on vs. screw on. The widest part of the barrel is 14mm. I cannot find any model number or serial number on it. The top of the cap is at an angle and has the W logo imprinted on it. Anyone have any ideas? See photos please.
  18. thenewguyfrompoland

    Waterman Drawing Set Recognition

    Hello to all of you! I'm from Poland. I'm new here, and i would like to find some information about this stuff. While cleaning the basement i've found box with pencilcases on the photos. I have 5 of them sealed and one was slightly damaged. There are mathematical instruments as on photos. Do you know something about them? When they were made, sold, or are they valuable? Thanks for all the answers
  19. Hi, I purchased a Waterman Fountain Pen Phileas Kultur Iridescent Blue Fountain Pen last September on eBay, and bought a waterman converter on Amazon. It has always been a bit of a tough starter to get the ink flowing, but recently, when I thought it just was being stubborn, I opened up the barrel to find it full of ink and the converter empty. I cleaned it out and reseated the converter, and it happened again. I do carry the pen around in a case with my sailor pen in my backpack, but the sailor is fine, and the waterman will not hold its ink, suddenly. (It doesn't get as much use as the Sailor does.) I'm wondering if it's the pen or the converter. Can I tell if it's a real Waterman? I suppose if it seems to be I should just try another converter? Is Amazon generally trustworthy on that sort of thing or are there inferior products out there too? I only used both sources as my usual pen shops didn't have the pen at the time, and lower Manhattan & NJ were in the midst of an apparent converter drought.... Anyone have similar experience with this particular pen? Thanks!
  20. ProfCG

    Waterman Hemisphere Vs Expert

    Hey everyone, I am new to these forums and I have to say I have enjoyed reading thoroughly throughout the forums about Waterman pens, however I did not come across many topics about the kind of 'lower end' (if you might) Waterman Pens and I was wondering, what do you guys think about the Hemisphere and then the Expert, and is it worth the extra money for the Expert? I am not a beginner, I have been writing with fountain pens from the age of around 9, but I have not had chance to purchase a nice pen, and I LOVE watermen pens in general. So expert advice from people who may or may not have these pens would be nice What are your thoughts? And thanks
  21. InkPartout

    Identify This Waterman Model ?

    Reposted from an old topic: Maybe this entry deserves a new topic (if I don't get an answer, I'm going to do that: or would someone do that for me or move it to a better place if they think it would be better), but I'm just to use the same title, "Help Identifying Waterman Pens"... I don't have, but want acquire, a particular model of Waterman fountain pen, well, technically it was a cartridge pen becauase it didn't come with bottle filler. This model was extant in the very late seventies or early eighties, although it could have been made outside that period as well. The one I had was a silver coloured smooth metal (stainless steel). I have included a picture of what remember is an identical model (except the picture is of a bottle-filler). The features I would point out are i) the almost cylindrical shape of the capped pen, squarely cut at the cap end, and barrel slightly tapering toward the end ii) the characteristic 'W' shape of the ink flow assembly where the nib is seen to enter the pen (not clear from the picture, unless it is magnified up). Can anyone ID this model ? It might finding another easier if I had a name. InkPartout 28.March.2019 31.March.2019
  22. ElColt

    Help Identitfying This Model

    Hi guys, I would be very grateful if someone could help me identify the model of this fountain pen that I received back in 1981. "Waterman" and underneath that "Made in France" are engraved on the lid. Many thanks, ElColt
  23. Fernando77

    What Is The Name Of This Watermans

    Hello, Does anyone know what year this pen was manufactured? Would like to know whether Ideal nibs came with round breathers as opposed to heart shaped breathers. I purchased this pen from the internet. While the seller's flexing examplar shows flexing, I was not able to get as much flex when I wrote with the pen. I did not want to spring the nib. Also, the pen was listed as a super flex (see writing examplar attached) but it has virtually no bounce. I would say it is a semi flex like a 344 Montblanc, or a No. 2 Eversharp Skyline. Any other information on this set will be greatly appreciated. I am aware that "flexing" is very subjective and depends on the pressure applied. However, I don't think this is a super flex. I decided to keep the pen because it has been very well maintained, and was recently serviced, as per the seller. The nib is very smooth and lays down plenty of ink. The nib is approximately 3/4 of an inch. It says Watermans and has the word IDEAL right under the Watermans, and it has a 14K stamp underneath the word IDEAL. The shoulders wrap around the nib and the feeder is smooth. The seller advertised it as a No. 4. Along the barrel are the words Waterman's Made in Canada and the third line reads: Fountain Pen. The clip has the word Watermans stamped on it. The top of the clip has a smooth round gold colored circle. The bottom tip has 5 circles within circles in sequential sizes. It has its original hard leatherette case, dark blue with a gold cloth lining in the interior. The pen and pencil set rest on a ribbed pattern gold satin type material. The set is held in place by two elastic small bands. In the upper inside cover, it has the words "Waterman's" in a Times Roman font with tilted as. The cap also reads: Watermans Manufactured in Canada.The colors are very vibrant and very rich. The pattern has various double lines which give the optical ellusion that they are indented, but in reality the pen is very smooth both on the barrel and cap. Not sure whether this set is a Lady Patricia. The Lady Patricia sets circa 1930 have different clips and the ones that I have seen on the internet have a silver globe looking insert on the cap. Again, any and all information will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Fernando77
  24. penman88

    Info On Waterman Canada Ideal #2

    Ideal Canada 2 Nib n1087, can anyone give me any info on this pen? is the #2 ideal Canadian still flexy like a a ideal 52 #2 nib?
  25. dunepanda

    Hello From Dubai

    hi guys. just joined the "FPN" after i was looking for this pen my dad had bought back in the 90s. growing up, we used fountain pens at school. i almost always had a parker vector (which i kept on loosing) or a bunch of hero (parker 51 look alike) pens while my sister had an actual parker 51. i was going through our old boxes and came across a pen set that my dad had picked up at an expo back around 1997. it was a "pen quest 2000" all steel body ballpoint, roller ball and fountain pen. i looked it up online and it brought me to the fountain pen network where someone had posted pictures of. the one i have is slightly different but it was nice to hear that someone else also had it. i wonder how much it would be worth today. i got back into fountain pens recently and have just ordered my first "fancy" pen. ive ordered a Montblanc 146. this is after i had been experimenting with some local and chinese pens. i currently wish i had kept the fountain pens from back when i was still in school as i really miss the parker vector and the beautiful marble red piston filling waterman i had back in highschool. i didnt really appreciate them back then and i remember i had dropped my waterman on the floor and bent the gold plated nib plus i never liked how it kept on bleeding through the paper i was using at the time. considering the crappy copy paper i was using back then and the fact that the waterman was an absolute gusher. i really wish i had kept it and would have appreciated it more. ive also been experimenting with mixing inks to get more shades. mixed the apache sunset from noodlers with the run of the mill pelican royal blue 4001.....it gave me a really vibrant olive green somehow. has anyone else experimented with ink mixing? or am i just wasting the expensive inks?! haha im thinking about experimenting with food coloring and see if i can come up with some unique shades (for much cheaper price) good to be on here. hopefully i can get some of you guys to respond on this.





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