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  1. Hello, to all good people outrhere! I am new member of the forum, and I will introduce myself in proper section, just a lill bit later. Here is my question. I decided I want to buy Pilot Capless/ Vanishing Point. I have trouble deciding between fine and medium nib. I have been browsing the web a lot lately, and I figured out that medium is more like western mediums, and fine is like usual Japaneese fine. However I do now have Pilot Metropolitan in Medium nib, and I find its width perfect. Does anyone have both Pilot Metropolitan Medium and Vanishing Point in Fine. And if anyone does, I would be grateful if they could post a writting sample comparing the two, and generally giving brief comparison between the two. I know there is Goulet Nib Nook, but in my humble experience it sometimes can be misleading. I have also found comparisons between Metropolitan Fine and Vanishing point fine, but they are of little help, since I find Metro fine too fine for my taste. And unifortunately I do not have a chance to try a pen in the store, since where I live noobody is willing to let you dip the pen All help much appreciated!
  2. phillieskjk

    Kakuno Nib Swap

    Are the nibs on the Pilot Kakuno swappable with the other cheaper pilot pens that all swap nibs (Metropolitan, 78g, Penmanship, Plumix, etc.)? The smiles on the Kakuno nibs make me unsure, as none of the others have them, but if they are I would love to put one of the smile nibs on my Prera! Thanks, Phillieskjk
  3. Hi everyone! I'm new to Fountain Pen Network, and I have some question regarding Faber-Castell Loom. And piston converter. I just brought Loom, and when I put in the converter in and turn it a little to ensure it is in place, the nib/feed started turning too. Sort of like unscrewing from the body. Might be a stupid question but why does it do that? Is it because it is for changing the nib? Another burning question I have is whenever I ink up my pens using a piston converter, there is this air that goes up first before the ink starts to fill the converter. I have fully submerged the nib into the ink, so I am wondering why is it like that? Any suggestions for me to get rid of the air when I ink up my pens next time?
  4. I've got my heart set on a Pilot Custom Heritage 92 as my next pen. It'll be my first gold nib, and my first pen nicer than my TWSBI. The one thing holding me back is figuring out which size nib I want -- wavering between an M and an FM. The only Japanese nibs I have to go by are Pilot Metropolitans...I have a medium and my gf has a fine. I definitely think the metropolitan fine is too fine, but I can't decide if the medium is OK or if something finer (i.e., FM) would suit me better. My question: are the CH92 fine & medium comparable to the Metropolitan fine & medium in terms of fineness? I'd hate to end making a decision based on bad assumptions.
  5. DianaMurray

    Nyc Newb

    Hello, total fountain pen newb from NYC here. I don't know what came over me but one day I just had to get myself a fountain pen. I had been dissuaded because we had them in the house as a kid, with bottles of Parker ink, and I associated them with getting ink on one's hands, and clogs, and nothing worked, etc. I avoided them. OK, enough, I got over it and ordered a Pilot Metropolitan. Came yesterday - it's gorgeous. The gray one with the houndstooth ring around the top of the barrel (?), not sure what it's called. I had a funny experience. It came with a cartridge. I have a bottle of Noodler's on order, and I just couldn't wait to use it, so I attached the cartridge and....nothing. I was catapulted back to childhood with my parents' non-functional fountain pens. I got it together & consulted an instructional video, which suggested you squeeze the cartridge a couple of time. LOL, I squirted a big puddle of ink, luckily on paper, so no harm done. I gentle squeeze was all that was needed. Questions: 1. Do I store the pen right-side up? 2. I notice a bit of stray ink on the nib, so I clean it off w/a bit of paper towel. When I pass the paper towel over the breather hole, ink comes out. Is it supposed to be that way? Thanks! I love my pen. I can't wait for my Noodler's to come to experiment w/the converter.
  6. I'm in a bit of a conundrum here, and I'm looking for some help. My pen history is basically nil. I've only owned Varsities, a Lamy Safari EF, and a couple of 78Gs. I'd like to graduate someday to actual fountain pens like the MYU 701 or custom 74, but as a poor college student, I cannot do so in the near future. With that in mind, which should I purchase? A White Tiger Pilot Metropolitan, or a NOS Pilot Elite Short/Long FP? I've been intending to get the Elite for awhile now, but the seller is currently away and won't be back until 1-15-2014 (one can still view the item in question here:http://www.ebay.com/itm/350810855581). I've got some Diamine Red Dragon ink burning a hole in my desk drawer, but I don't want to spoil its 'new factor' by putting it in my well-used 78G or recalcitrant safari. I imagine that a japanese extra fine nib would probably be too litte for my use, and I've read on https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/182020-clean-out-my-office-sale-round-1/ that another user purchased this pen from the same seller, but "It was a firehose with ink" I'll stop rambling now, but I think I've become fixated on a pen which seems to have a good chance of dissapointing me (the Elite S/L, that is). Can anyone help me make sense of the situation and if needed talk me out of my fixation?
  7. Edgemcmuffins

    Help With Pilot Metropolitan Nib Damage

    I'm a new fountain pen user who recently bought a pilot metropolitan. While using the pen (which had no issues prior and was my favorite pen), my dog hit my chair enough to startle me, and I dropped my metro. It landed nib-down and landed on the edge of my carpet. I flipped out, but managed to realign the nib (it was bent slightly to the side). It all seemed good and done, but now I'm having starting issues. Any ideas on what to do?
  8. Ladies and gentlemen, I checked the repair Q&A forum but my questions are a bit more general I think so I decided to post here. Background: I'm new to "proper" fountain pens, used a fountain pen for decades as a kid and young adult, always liked that smoothness and speed featherweight pressure facilitates. Now I use Pilot Metropolitan - Fine nib. I was using Pilot black ink (see picture attached) that I got with it. Works like a charm. Extremely light pressure, high speed writing is a breeze and smooth. I saw the Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue which I used for decades is still made and around so I promptly got a bottle and to my surprise, it caused a lot of problems. Issue: Pen required a lot more pressure all of a sudden. Really heavy pressure to the point of severly slowing down my writing. Even having to repeat some characters because they just got lost. Terrible to the point of uselessness. With medium pressure it would manage extremely thin lines or none at all. It would work okay if I flush it (with a drop of water still in the system) and a refill. I use a rubber bladder converter that came with the pen. Nib is fine. I checked it, it's fine and changed ink back to pilot black and everything is smooth again.Is this normal, is the Pelikan 4001 ink just so "dry"/thick it just won't work with this type of pen?Is this pen generally known to be so sensitive? (because I doubt products like this Pelikan ink would stay on the market if most pens didn't work with it)or do I have a different problem with the pen that I haven't addressed?If's this pen being fussy, any recommendations on more ink-tolerant pens?If I have to limit my choice of ink to only the most wet ones, any recommendations? Looking for blue/blue-black. Thanks in advance, z. edits: clarity
  9. Parlot IMR Frankenpen This is a Frankenpen made from Parker IM and Pilot MR fountain pens. It combines a Pilot MR silver dot body with Parker IM silver section, fine nib and converter. I manage somehow to bend the Pilot nib and I didn’t like the heavy Parker IM black laqurel body. The IM section fits perfectly into MR body, only problem being the cap when closed is a fraction wobbly, not noticeable, but there. So now I have a full metal nice pen, with a nail fine nib ready to rock ’n’ roll. Appearance & Design (9/10)What can be said? Already classic cigar shaped Metropolitan from Pilot in silver dot version, in my opinion nothing can be improved. This is the European version called MR, the main difference being the ability to take standard international C/C versus Pilot proprietary C/C. Construction & Quality (8/10)Solid rock made in Japan, everything working properly and fitting just right. Weight & Dimension (8/10)With the new section from IM now the pen will feel just a bit heavier, but still well balanced. The barrel is 13 mm /0.5 in at the widest diameter, the section is 10 mm/ 0.4 in diameter. It’s a sleek, metal pen, with a slim cigar shaped body, tapering to a rounded point at both ends. Length capped: 13.7 cm / 5.4 in Length un-capped: 12.3 cm / 4.84 in Length posted: 15.1 cm / 5.95 in Weight (capped, with converter): 32 g / 1.15 oz Nib & Performance (8/10)This is a fine nib, which I’ve changed through Parker service from a medium nib. I found this nib a smooth and pleasant nib to use daily. Anyway the nib is a nail and write a fine to medium line, never had any problem skipping or drying. It’s a common problem with Parker IM drying nib, caused by air gaps where clip is attached, but with Pilot MR body this problem is solved. Filling system & Maintenance (8/10)Now is using Parker proprietary C/C system. Can use all sort of Parker cartridges and converters available almost everywhere. It’s easy to clean or maintain just some soapy water and soft cloth form time to time. The nib can be flushed with Parker converter. Currently I’m using a slide converter. Cost & Value (7/10)Well...to build this will have to buy 2 different pens: Pilot MR £20.00 and Parker IM £20.00, prices being approximated, depending where you can buy them. If you’re lucky you can get them less than half from Ebay, or pens classified. The cheapest option is my case, 2 broken pens join together into a Frankenpen. Conclusion (8/10)Is not a pen for everybody, just another Frankenpen, made from broken parts. It is metallic body, classic cigar shape, sleek, fine and smooth nib using Parker C/C. I would like to see the Pilot MR/Metropolitan gold with gold section from Parker IM... Anyway, some pictures:
  10. I did a brief search but haven't found a definitive answer. Does the con70 converter fit into the metropolitan? I just bought a cocoon but I don't want to buy the converter if it's not going to fit.
  11. I am thinking of buying one of these - but I could not find any review on it. Anyone used them? How are they. Please share your opinion Thanks
  12. Hello! I'm new around these parts, though I've been reading FPN for a while. I've got a small problem, which is that my Pilot Metropolitan (M) is currently inked with the very wet writing Noodler's Bad Belted Kingfisher, which tends to feather and bleed a lot when I write on regular old printer paper (which is sadly what I end up writing on a lot of the time). As a result, I don't use the Metro as much as I'd like. I do also have another pen (a Waterman Apostrophe, fine) that I'd like to ink. So, I wanted to know whether: 1. Anyone has a good ink recommendation for a Pilot Metro (M). Colour is not so important - I already have 4 pens inked with appropriate colours (LAMY Safari with Noodler's Black, Parker Vector with Parker Black, another LAMY something-or-other with Waterman red, and of course the current blue in the Metro). I'd be interested in a good green or brown perhaps. Ideally the ink shouldn't be too wet a writer, because I don't want it to suffer the same problems as the current blue does. 2. Noodler's Bad Belted Kingfisher is compatible with a Waterman Apostrophe (F). I know this isn't Baystate Blue, but I thought I'd check, mostly because this pen is of great sentimental value to me. I guess these two are kind of linked - if Bad Belted Kingfisher is likely to damage the Apostrophe, I'll either temporarily retire the ink and buy another two - one for the Metro and one for the Apostrophe - or I'll simply not ink the Apostrophe. If it's all good, though, I just need the one new ink. Thanks, all!
  13. The new very colorful Pilot Namiki Metropolitan Retro Pop line will be here in November!! This line includes Fountain, ballpoint, and rollerball pens!!!
  14. Exchletzia

    Pilot Metropolitan Repairs?

    I have just recently purchased two Pilot Metropolitans. After minimal use of the first one the cap no longer snaps onto the pen, but has to be pushed down and twisted to get it to close, and even then the seal is very weak and often springs the cap back off. I am certain that it is not a problem with the pen, but with the cap because the cap from my other pilot metropolitan will snap securely onto both pen bodies, but the broken cap will not snap properly. Does anyone have experience with this issue and/or know how I might be able to fix it? Thanks!
  15. I had an unfortunate mishap with my Pilot Metropolitan at work, and destroyed the nib. I dropped it (cap off), onto a tile floor, it bounced off the nib and "double-tapped", bending it in two different directions. Needless to say, the nib was mangled. Wanting to try a different type of nib, and not willing to buy another metropolitan, just to cannibalize, I decided to buy a plumix and swap the nibs. I did not try out the Plumix first. I immediately dismantled it, cleaned both pens with plain water, and re-assembled the plumix nib and feed together on the Metro, using the same half-spent black cartridge I was using previously. After the first few strokes I noticed it would randomly skip on the first 1/10 inch or so of a downstroke, and randomly on side strokes, then start flowing. Now, I have never used an italic/stub nib before, so maybe I'm doing something wrong. I was trying to keep the nib flat and straight on the paper, and not roll it to one side. I was also writing very slow. Even so, it was still acting up. I've read reviews where many people have said the plumix nib is one of the smoothest Pilot nibs out there. While actually flowing I would say its very smooth, but the skipping issues ruin the experience. I do not have a loupe, but I do have an SLR camera, and multiple lenses, so I tried the "reverse-lens" trick. It was hard to see, as I probably shouldn't have used a 28-200mm zoom lens (very small opening at infinity focus), but I could not see any misalignment of the tines. I did end up buying another metro to use as-is, and both Mediums are/were buttery smooth. It's a shame I'm having trouble with their stub. Any ideas?
  16. An introduction into fountain pens and Lokta journals for my Nephew Recently my nephew had a birthday and he turned 15. I got him a Pilot Namiki MR Metropolitan collection Fountain Pen in silver and a Monk Paper Belt Style Buffalo Leather Lokta Small Journal. I was a little unsure as to what to get for him as his first introduction into fountain pens. It turns out this was a perfect fit for him as was the buffalo leather lokta journal. The journal is just beautifully crafted and an excellent source for your jotting of notes, drawing, or keeping track of life events. The Metropolitan line is very smooth and consistent. The pen itself is sleek and well balanced with great lines. I also like the option of cartridge or converter. Which of course he chose cartridge. I know it was perfect for him because shortly after receiving it he called me and told me it was the best present he had ever received (and he was very sincere)! If you have ever been around a teenager you know that for him to say that to me was a big deal. He has since began sketching with his pen and loves the precise lines he is able to get as well as only needing to gently, lightly guide the pen to create a line. In conclusion I believe this writing instrument is great as an introduction into the world of Fountain pens or just to write with in general and the evidence is now in my nephews sketch book/journal.
  17. I am a new fountain pen user with only about two months of experience using fountain pens. I am looking to replace my Pilot Metropolitan whose nib was damaged beyond my ability to repair after it was dropped (capped, but the snap-cap was knocked loose by the impact). As I am very much enjoying fountain pen use, my indulgent side naturally saw this as an opportunity for an upgrade. The Pilot Vanishing Point seemed to fit my needs perfectly. My question to you, therefore, is, is [sic?] the Vanishing Point so much better a pen (nib, convenience, feel) than the Metropolitan that it is worth a price increase of $125 (10x the price)? I understand that the relation between price and pen is not linear, but as long as it is a noticeable improvement after writing the first few words, then I would count it as worth the price. As a side note, I am interested in the fine nib. If you have different standards for what "worth the price" means, please feel free to use them in your response. Of course, everyone's definition of noticeable is different. Thank you for your time and thought. Edit: I apologize for the typo in the title. Such is the effect of carelessness!
  18. Please disregard this opening post and read the second post. I accidentally checked the wrong "html" box. This resulted in very wonky formatting. I think I figured it out by my second post.
  19. fitz123

    Humidity Vs Metropolitan

    Humidity has been high lately, and I've noticed on my daily carrier-Pilot Metropolitan with F nib, that on the squeeze converter, the ink sac tends to condense and sweat, like a glass of cold water in the sun. I've found that it fills up in the barrel and has to be cleaned every night, after a long day of writing. I know this can be fixed by getting a con-50 or refilling cartridges, just curious what other think. Also, I've noticed more nib creep and droplets getting in the cap, and that too has to be cleaned out daily. {I use Noodlers Blue} Has anyone else had this problem in the humidity and heat of more than usual nib creep and slightly leaking in cap? Thanks, Fitz
  20. Kuhataparunks

    Pilot Penmanship Vs. Pilot Falcon Ef?

    Hi guys, I have a simple question that I hope someone can answer. Please, allow me to explain: I am interested almost exclusively in fine point nibs, and I mean really fine; I considered the pilot metro F too thick for me, so I was elated to find the Penmanship with its truly extra-fine nib, being able to simply switch the nibs! The penmanship-metropolitan mod is currently my favorite pen, even over a pen for which I paid literally 10 times the price Thinking it would be comparable, I got a Pilot Elite with a 14K EF nib, and it writes an even thicker line than the F Metropolitan! Grrrrr! I've had my eyes on a Falcon EF for many weeks now, but I cannot use it pleasurably if it is not TRULY extra-fine. MY QUESTION is, How does the penmanship EF nib compare to the Falcon EF nib? Unflexed(minimum pressure to achieve a line), does the Falcon's EF write as finely as the Penmanship's EF? I want a gold nib that's TRULY extra-fine. I'm so mad the pilot elite skimmed me on that Also, I actually do want lots of line variation, so the flex of the Falcon would be well appreciated. Eventually I'll plan on getting the Heritage 912 with a posting nib, but I'd like to have a pen below that before dropping $200 on one. Thanks if you have the knowledge to answer this!
  21. I received my first Pilot Prera yesterday and I am amazed at the quality of the nib on a relatively inexpensive pen. I always prefer Japanese pens for their exquisite fine nibs. The Prera fine compares very well to my Sailor Pro Gear Slim EF 14k gold nib. I am very impressed! Having said that, I do enjoy collecting things as well. As far as I can tell, the Prera has 16 variants with nine solid colors and 7 demonstrators. Are there any others I am missing? Special or limited editions? Some seem to have started out as LE or were presumed LE and ended up as production models. Is the white endcap model real , or a frankenpen? And since the Metropolitan has the same nib and feed system, and are even less expensive, how many variants are available in that model? Please forgive me if these are commonly asked questions. I've been away from the forums quite a while, but now have time to participate in my beloved hobby once again. Thanks in advance for your help!
  22. h.farmawi

    Pilot Metropolitan

    Hello guys ! its not the first review for this pen for sure but i said i want to review this pen also , i also wanted to write something so here you go.. Ps : thanks Mr. Joe for the pen !http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n187/hfarmawi/pilotmetropolitan_zpsd102db91.jpghttp://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n187/hfarmawi/IMG101_zps6bf17ca3.jpg
  23. Overview: The Pilot Metropolitan is a "budget" fountain pen from Pilot. the reason that I put the word budget in quotes is the fact that the only thing budget about this pen is the dirt cheap price of USD $13.78. I got everything that i expected and even more when i bought this pen. Looks: This pen has simple styling and a very utilitarian design. it is dressed in matte black with a glossy plastic midsection. when capped, a small silver metal band is visable. the cap itself is marked "pilot japan" and has a simple silver clip. it does not stand out, but it is not too plain either. 10/10 Construction/Build Quality: this pen has a surprisingly qualitative build. With the matte black painted brass barrel and cap, it has considerable heft. The main thing that originally made me nervous about purchasing this pen was the cap. up until this point, I have never trusted a pen with a cap that doesn't screw on, with the exception of the innovative clutch system on the iconic Parker 51. I took the risk on this pen, figuring that if the cap doesn't clip on to my liking, i could keep this pen on my desk as a desk pen, and i do not regret the risk at all. the cap fits on like a glove and it takes considerable force to remove it, therefore, i trust this thing just as well as my screw on caps on my old sheaffers that are my usual daily drivers. 10/10 Filling System: This pen employs a cartridge-converter system, and accepts special Pilot cartridges/converters. this pen came with a squeeze converter installed that holds a considerable amount of ink. the converter itself is of very high quality. it almost reminds me of a thicker variant of a standard ink sac from a older style pen like i normally carry. at $8.59 for a 12 pack of cartridges, i believe that i am going to be going to be using the converter full time. no complaints here. 10/10 Writing Quality: a pen can have all the looks, but what really matters in the end is how well the pen writes. this pen doesn't fail to deliver in this department, either. it has a medium nib that lays down a line that looks a little bit finer than my Sheaffer Touchdown that also has a medium nib. This pen writes fairly dry, but is far from being skippy and problematic. the nib is extremely smooth and overall, this pen performs much better than a pen normally found within this price range. 10/10 Price/Value: this pen costed me a grand total of $13.78. thirteen dollars and seventy-eight cents. the price is the only thing cheap about the pen. Pilot could have sold this thing for $50 and, even then, i would have felt like a got a good deal. 'nuff said. 10/10. Conclusion: As i stated earlier, this pen is an incredible value and i would recommend it to anybody. if you're a seasoned pen collector/user that's looking for another pen or a novice that's looking for a first pen to see what the world of a FP is like, this is the pen for you. Here's some pic's. sorry for the blurriness. the iphone camera ain't all that great. http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k457/lmarine0510/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpse949c469.jpg http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k457/lmarine0510/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsd6286bed.jpghttp://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k457/lmarine0510/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps5366c41c.jpghttp://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k457/lmarine0510/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps9730d549.jpghttp://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k457/lmarine0510/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps1416ac4a.jpghttp://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k457/lmarine0510/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps01dc93fd.jpghttp://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k457/lmarine0510/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps4618da04.jpg http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k457/lmarine0510/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsd3e85789.jpg
  24. airbender-ellyn

    Pilot Converters In Nyc

    Is there a place in NYC that sells Pilot cartridge converters? I don't feel like ordering online for something so little.
  25. Well, first off let me thank everybody on this site for all the information they have provided me in my research. Probably 5 months ago, I purchased a Lamy Safari (F) with a converter and a bottle of Noodler's Black ink as a starter fountain pen based on the reviews I had seen on here and other places. I was very happy with my purchase as a first pen and it wrote beautifully for the time I had it...it was "misplaced" at work one day and has not been seen since. The Safari was a great intro into fountain pens but was a bit rich to risk losing another one at work. Well, on to my new purchases. I did some more digging for other budget minded pens and came to the decision to purchase two Platinum Preppys and one Pilot Metropolitan. I will start with the Preppys: I got one in 05 and one in 03 to test out how I liked the different nibs. I loaded the supplied cartridges into them and tried them on a variety of paper from my sketchpads, to nice notebook paper, to standard printer paper. On all paper, the 03 preppy was smooth as butter with a nice fine line, the ink was very "watery" for me and became dull once dried. This was not really a big deal and there was very little feathering on any of the paper, just some bloating if you will. The nib on the 03 created a finer line than the F Safari I had and was quite a bit smoother. As I said, this nib is incredibly smooth with ZERO scratch to it at all. The 05 Preppy was a much broader line and the nib did exhibit a bit of scratchy feel but nothing that bothered me, I would say about on par with my Safari nib (not to go into a tangent here, but the Safari went back and got replaced once due to a bad nib, the replacement was much better but still not what I would call ideal). The ink flow out of the 05 was much broader, probably in line with the Varsity pens I have tried, but the ink again was very watery and tended to look quite dull on all papers once dried and did bloat. The pen was a very wet writer, but did not blob or give any adverse writing. I am just not a broad/medium nib person and much preferred the 03 nib. Both pens function very well, start up every time, and are an amazing deal at $3 a piece. I intend to buy at least 1-2 more preppy's and convert one to an eyedropper to replace the ink which I don't enjoy as much with some Noodler's Black I have on hand. Next up, the Metropolitan: I would say this pen is the best of any I have tried to date. The nib creates a nice fine line on par with that of the 03 Preppy but the pen was filled with Noodler's black ink and the difference from the preppy ink is night and day. No bloating, no dulling, it is just a nice fine, dark line. The nib is very smooth, maybe not quite as good as the 03 preppy as it is a tad bit dry, but it never skips and there is no scratch to it. The look of the pen is very nice and I would say it is a better pen than the Safari was and has a finer nib which writes just as well as the Safari did with less scratch to it. If I was going to recommend a pen to somebody new to fountain pens it would definitely be the metropolitan. I am extremely impressed with this pen for the price; however, the squeeze converter is not the best method in my opinion. The first thing I will do with this pen is buy a piston converter which will hopefully hold more ink as well. I have not tested to see how long I can get the pen to write for, but it really doesn't seem to hold much ink with this method. Overall I am extremely pleased with my purchase and would recommend either of these pens. The metropolitan is a bit fancier and an overall better pen, but that might also be from the ink I used which I think made a big difference. The preppy pens are an absolute bargain at their price and are going to make great work pens that I don't really care if I lose. Hopefully the next couple I get for testing eye droppers and converters in them will have nibs as good as the one on the 03 I have now. A little plug for JetPens here, I ordered on Thursday last week and they arrived today with the free shipping, can't beat that. Thanks again for all the great information on this site for leading me to these pens. I almost gave up on fountain pens after I lost the Safari, but I am glad I did not. These pens have made me turn a corner and don't think I will be leaving the fountain pen side for a long time to come.

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