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  1. I found a stash of old reviews that got misplaced during a house move, so this one's a bit old. Still a great ink though! http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/XQv830.jpg
  2. I love inks that are wet and easy to clean, so I’ve accumulated more than half of the Herbin line. And, blue is the color I use most often in my daily writers, so I thought it would be fun to do a comparison of the Herbin blues: Bleu Nuit, 1670 Bleu Ocean, Bleu Pervenche, Bleu Azur, Bleu Myosotis and Eclat de Saphir. I use all of them regularly with the exception of Bleu Azur (which I ordered a sample of to add to this comparison). The comparison was done using a Pelikan 400NN F nib on Rhodia. Ink Swabs: Ink on Paper Towel: Top Row: Bleu Nuit, 1670 Bleu Ocean, Eclat de Saphir Bottom Row: Bleu Pervenche, Bleu Azur, Bleu Myosotis As with most Herbin inks, all 6 blues are all extremely easy to clean, have never stained any of my pens, are wet and very well behaved (immediate start-up in a pen left uncapped for over a minute, no performance issues even after sitting in an unused pen for a couple of days and no skipping noticed in any pen that I’ve put them in.) Yet, as with any brand, these blues are not all created equal and differ considerably in the lubrication/smoothness they provide. So, my ranking of the inks (in addition to personal color preference) is greatly determined by this factor, since I enjoy using smooth inks: 1. Eclat de Saphir 2. 1670 Bleu Ocean 3. Bleu Pervenche 4. Bleu Myosotis 5. Bleu Nuit 6. Bleu Azur (I've included additional writing samples from my notebook to show color variation in different pens. Please excuse the Latin class notes and the nonsensical doodles ) 1. Eclat de Saphir This has become one of my benchmark inks as it has performed exceptionally well in every pen that I have put it in, and I usually have the most fun playing with a nib when a pen is inked with it. It offers some shading which appears to be determined more by the flexiness and wetness of the nib than the actual composition of the ink. In some of my pens Eclat de Saphir is a soft blue with violet undertones while in others, the wetter writers, the color is a truer, more intense jewel like blue. Although less smooth/lubricated than the 1670 Bleu Ocean, writing with the ink feels good, and all of my pens seem to reach their full performance potential (on Rhodia) when inked with this blue elixir. I imagine that a nib filled with Eclat de Saphir must feel as limber and free as the body/mind post a good yoga class! This is one of my top 3 inks and if the entire Herbin line performed the same way I would have trouble using any other brand. Lubrication: Good 2. 1670 Bleu Ocean This ink’s biggest appeal is its smoothness/lubrication, which surpasses all other Herbin blues, and is unlike any other Herbin ink I’ve tried in that regard. In some wetter nibs some might even consider Bleu Ocean to be too smooth. In fact, in the wet 1950s 146, the best comparison I can give to writing with this ink is the rush one gets from skating on slightly wet, freshly cleaned ice. The color is a dark blue with purple undertones and minimal shading. The ink can appear dull/muted in a drier nib or beautifully saturated in a wet writer. Yet, despite that saturation, it cleans out effortlessly even from high maintenance pens. Lubrication: Very good 3. Bleu Pervenche I have a huge weakness for turquoise ink and recently tried about 15 of them in hopes of finding the perfect one. Although Bleu Pervenche was not my first ranked turquoise based on color (Rohrer and Klingner Blu Mare wins hands down for me in that category!), Bleu Pervenche is the one I turn to most often because it provides the most fluid writing experience out of the samples I tried (which also included Omas, Visconti, Montblanc, Diamine, Monteverde, Pelikan, Waterman...). I would have liked for it to feel even a tad smoother (like Eclat de Saphir), and if it did I would have ranked it above Bleu Ocean, but overall this is a beautiful ink. Lubrication: Ok to good 4. Bleu Myosotis This color comes to life not when the ink first meets the page or even immediately after it has dried. Days later, it evolves into a very soft blue that sits between a cool, silvery grey and a subtle violet; the color is on the lighter side but remains perfectly legible and for some reason reminds me of the ink that a winter fairy would use (all it needs is silver shimmer...) Shading is higher than the previous three blues and, combined with the faded color, gives the ink a nice vintage quality. Lubrication: Ok to good. 5. Bleu Nuit I want to like this ink more than I do. Bleu Nuit is more of a blue grey than a blue black and shades beautifully (more than any of the other Herbin blues). Yet, whenever I use this ink, I usually like the color and the shading for about half a page and then get bored with it. Another area where the ink falls flat for me is its lubrication. This is one of the wettest inks of the bunch, but not in a good way; it does not provide the smooth, silky wetness I enjoy writing with but rather a kind of thin, watery flow. Lubrication: Ok (mainly due to extreme wetness of ink) 6. Bleu Azur I cannot really comment much on this ink, because I only used it for the writing sample in this comparison, but in that brief moment, I did not enjoy using. It felt thin and watery with even less lubrication than Bleu Nuit. On Rhodia, the color is so light that I could never use it in a daily writer. However, I will say that, when painted on the paper with a q-tip, the color is beautiful, so Bleu Azur could make for a wonderful light blue ink for anyone who uses fountain pen inks to draw, paint... Lubrication: Poor
  3. I used a dip nib with Stormy Grey this morning for the first time. Its a very very wet ink! It also feathered on Rhodia as a result. Based on experiments here https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/283167-glitteratipearlmica-and-e415/page-2 I trialled the Experiment 6 concentrate in J Herbin Stormy Grey. Here are the results. Pics of vial bases are just 1 min after shaking. In cases of direct comparison, the first pic is Stormy Grey a la naturel, the second pic is Stormy Grey x Xanthan concentrate blend. The Xanthan blend feathers less and offers far better gold distribution (where ink naturally pools from writing strokes, so does the gold, but it doesn't gold-dump like the original ink). Due to the viscosity change, you also get more letters out of one dip. Disclaimer: only use in a pen that can be fully dismantled for cleaning, and don't leave the blend in the pen unless you are ok with dry starts the next day or anything that might go wrong. Use at your own risk. Details of where the xanthan experiments are up to are in the linked thread. Dehydration tests beyond 57 hours haven't yet been done.
  4. Here is a very short review (scan) of J. Herbin's Ambre de Birmanie. Splash Writing Sample A very unsaturated ink of amber colour. I can't say I like it. It has some decent shading in flex nibs, but the colour is too wishy-washy in normal writing. It dries quite fast and water-resistance is poor. I think this one is a typical Herbin ink: very low saturation, watery inks which write so light that your eyes hurt. It would be a nice choice for drawing, but not for writing (for me anyway). I don't know why I bought a bottle of this. Now I have to find a way to use up a barrel of it... The samples are done on Rhodia Pad with a vintage Waterman's.
  5. I’ve had these photos on my phone for almost 2 weeks now and was excited to finally upload them last night, but couldn't get them on the site . After some experimenting, I'm happy it just worked with photobucket, so here it goes! 

I wanted to do this comparison for two reasons. First, because green olives are a big guilty pleasure of mine (I ate around 20-30 of them while writing this review last night ) and second, (and more importantly) I read in a couple threads that people were asking how the Montblanc Daniel Defoe Palm Green ink compared to other "olive-ish" greens. So, I thought I would add the samples I have to the wonderful comparisons that amberleadavis and dcroe05 already did! The inks tested are: Diamine Salamander, Stipula Verde Mushiato, Sailor Tokiwa-Matsu, Montblanc Daniel Defoe Palm Green, Rohrer and Klingner Alt-Goldgrun, and J. Herbin Vert Olive.

 The samples were done on Rhodia using a 1950s 146 and a Pilot Custom 74 B nib ground down to a smooth stub by Mike Masuyama.



 http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/emrys1221/photo1-2copy_zps78c4ed9d.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/emrys1221/photo1copy3_zpsf99fb482.jpg?t=1413835720 (group shot in indoor lighting) Closeups: (done in sunlight only - I find these photos truer to the color on paper) http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/emrys1221/photo3-1_zps3186c004.jpg?t=1413835721 http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/emrys1221/photo3-2_zpsdbc43397.jpg?t=1413835722 http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/emrys1221/photo5-1_zpsdb35c6a5.jpg?t=1413835722 http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/emrys1221/photo1-2_zps4dfa8c03.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/emrys1221/photo1copy2_zpsdcfc475b.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/emrys1221/photo4-1_zps2f6eade9.jpg?t=1413835721 Tokiwa-Matsu Sheen Closeup: (indoor lighting) http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/emrys1221/photo1-1_zpsa96f77fd.jpg Ink Swabs: http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/emrys1221/photo2copy_zps8039db56.jpg?t=1413838161 Ink on Paper Towel: http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f99/emrys1221/photo3_zps34c025f5.jpg?t=1413838161 Top Row: Diamine Salamander, Stipula Verde Mushiato, Sailor Tokiwa-Matsu Bottom Row: Montblanc Daniel Defoe Palm Green, Rohrer and Klingner Alt-Goldgrun, J. Herbin Vert Olive Salamander is probably my favorite shade of “olive” in this group, because its color is difficult to pin down. It’s not a green, brown or grey (and maybe not even an olive) but all three combined and the mix makes for a unique shade that is great for someone looking for a more exciting alternative to black that could be used in an office environment. My biggest complaint with this ink is that I wish that the flow and smoothness were both stronger. (But, I should note that I like very wet and smooth inks, so please do not let that discourage you from trying it.) On a side note, if you’ve tried a smooth wet ink that is very close in color to Salamander please let me know!

 The Defoe ended up being my second favorite shade of olive from the bunch (another amazing Limited Edition color from MB!), but I have yet to pick up a bottle. I am on the fence about whether I will get one or not, because, although, I love its color, as with most of my MB inks I wish it felt a little smoother under a flexi nib and given the heavier pressure I use while writing. (Though it felt smoother to me than Salamander.) 
Tokiwa-Matsu is by far the most interesting ink of the ones compared because of its spectacular reddish sheen. It's not my favorite shade of "olive", but it is my favorite ink to use out of the 6. I highly recommend it if you are looking for an ink with that special factor that makes you do a double-take every time you use it. Alt-Goldgrun is the closest in color to the Defoe. I loved the shade and shading when I first got a bottle, but I find myself using it less and less. After testing the Defoe, I much prefer it for note-taking since it is less yellow and a little darker.

 Verde Mushiato is an ink that I’m on the fence about, because I wish that, in my pens, it looked closer to some of the writing samples I’ve seen where it has more green mixed into the brown. Don’t get me wrong; the ink is a beautiful color, but I just don’t enjoy using it for a full page of notes, so my bottle doesn’t get much use. Performance wise, the ink has a different but pleasant, slightly powdery-soft feel under the nib which makes for a pretty smooth writing experience. 

Vert Olive is another nice shade but too light for me to use as a daily ink. Which is your favorite of the six?
  6. Uncial

    Stormy Grey Problem

    So, I really like this ink, but there is one thing that is really, really irritating me - the bottle! I actually like the bottle, but did the neck have to be so darned narrow? The gold particles settle so very, very quickly and I've discovered that most of my pens won't fit in the narrow neck. It's starting to really irritate me because I find that every time I fill up a pen it is only getting the top section of the ink by which stage all of the particles have filtered down to the bottom of the bottle. Has anyone else got this problem and how did you solve it? I've thought about transferring it into another bottle, but I fear that by doing so I might loose a load of the gold.
  7. J HERBIN’s ROUGE HEMATITE LOOKS TO BE IN GOOD SHAPE Does an ink having more saturation than usual can have good flow properties in a pen? Can an ink having good flow properties in a pen can show no feathering/ bleeding tendencies on paper? Both anwers can be “ Yes” if you are using J Herbin’s Rouge Hematite . J Herbin’s 1670 Rouge Hematite, Anniversary Edition. So what’s about it? CLAIMS This is what J Herbin claims – “ To celebrate the 340th Anniversary of the brand, we are introducing the “ 1670” ink especially formulated for this event. With a dark red color and earthy tone,it is a reminder of the historic color of the Herbin logo and the sealing wax by the members of royal courts.This rich deepdye will bring brightness and majesty to all your writing”. Probably calling this as just another FP ink may be under estimating it. So here the review goes… BOTTLE, COVER The cover shows earthy red and golden colors, an indication of what this ink is going to deliver. Bottle design - So radical, so classy…. An any day head turner. Bottle, Opened…The cap is made of combination of Aluminium and Rubber, have a nice feel in hand. Get past the appearance of the bottle to reveal the flaw – Bye Big pens..! COLOR The ink writes on paper with a bright red color and then dries to an earthy tone as the booklet describes. An impressive bright red with an earthy tone. Swab. See the golden tinge. This is the most peculiar feature of this ink. Swab color analysis of area with out golden tinge - shows Reddish brown on brighter side. Swab analysis of area with golden tinge- shows more Yellow still on very bright side. It’s strange that chromatography do not reveal any Yellow or Brown tone. It simply shows Red and Pink components. I believe the golden tone appears where the ink is dried with out much absorption. Where there is more absorption like a swab, the gold tinge can not appear. This is more in line with the property of the dye used rather than any suspended particles, but I am not sure. COLOR ON PAPER BRIGHT.. STRONG… AND CHEERFUL..! Yes, a bright, saturated and happy color. With a Fine nib. [ With Medium nib. Passes. PROPERTIES IN PEN Testing materials include Camlin Trinity Fine nib Convertor Filled Lamy Safari Medium Convertor Filled Wingsung Medium Aerometric Filled Kim Small Medium stub Eyedropper Filled Camlin trinity Fine nib writing sample Lamy Medium nib writing sample Kim stub writing sample. With nib changed to a Broader one. See the golden tinge more and more appearing with broader ( and more flow) nibs.
  8. tbonecopper

    J. Herbin's Cartridges

    I just noticed J. Herbin sells ink cartridges with a few stipulations...Notably they aren't compatible with Lamy pens.. Is that true? It seems like a silly question, but I've not noticed the ink cartridge in my Safari to be anything "unusual" from the other cartridges. This is the item of which I speak: http://www.jherbin.com/fountain_pen_inks.shtml If that is true, what are the key differences in the way the Lamy cartridges work vs others... I'm fairly new to this, and while I find the idea of manually filling my pen fascinating, I'm unsure I want to risk the potential mess.
  9. migo984

    Herbin 10Ml Mini Bottles - Uk

    An expensive way to buy, but a good way to try out a variety of new inks in several pens Bureau Direct are offering 4 x 10ml bottles of any of the Herbin colours as a set at £13.95 http://www.bureaudirect.co.uk/j-herbin-tube-of-four-inks/p3793
  10. I just tried to order some 100ml Lie de Thé, but found none of the shops I usually order from has any left. The writing desk also lists all 100ml Herbin bottles as discontinued - the note is new though, as it wasn't in place when I last got a bottle Poussière de Lune some weeks ago. Can anyone confirm this? A quick google search on the topic revealed nothing. Edit: Changed 'ink' in the title to 'bottle' as the inks continue to exist in their 30ml variants of course, just the 100ml bottles might be gone.
  11. So, I loaded up my fountain pen with Herbin's Lierre Sauvage. Everything was ok, until I opened the bottle today (2 days after I first opened it and loaded up the pen) and there was mould floating on top of the ink. Panic ensued, I got all the remaining ink out of my Lamy Safari and the converter. Rinsed both of them repeatedly, first with lukewarm water and when everything was clean I added a bit of washing up liquid to a glass of water, rinsed and shook the converter about a bit to get all the stuff out. Then rinsed with clean water again a number of times. My question is: was this enough? I couldn't see any mould inside the converter, so hoping that this is all ok now.
  12. Hi friends! I've been gradually getting deeper and deeper into this world o' fountain pens since giving my first Lamy Safari a shot two years ago. I finally wrote a post on my own blog about the hobby and what fountain pens mean to me and why I like them, which necessitated some pictures. So I busted out my camera and tried to get all pretty-like with some of my gear. All of what you see below is also in the blog post. Hope you enjoy these first attempts. Feedback and advice greatly appreciated. And thanks to all for the mountains of info I've gleaned as a long-time lurker here on FPN. Wouldn't have enjoyed the beginnings of this fanaticism wonderful hobby without you all! -The Idle Expatter (AKA Steve B.) My overall favorite ink, J. Herbin 1670 Rouge Hematite. The Rouge H. again with (the reverse side of) a sheet of Crane & Co. triple hairline My Faber-Castell e-motion in pearwood, a bottle of Iroshizuku kon-peki, and my custom-made journal from Bibliographica (on Etsy) A random dip pen and a bottle of J. Herbin vert reseda Iroshizuku kon-peki, enjoying some fresh air and sunlight (don't worry, only long enough to take the picture) My Kaweco Student (underrated gem of a pen, by the way!) and another handmade Bibliographica journal, this one called "The Nomad" Kaweco Student, Bibliographica "Nomad" journal, an orange Leuchtturm1917 dot pocket notebook, and an unlabeled bottle of Caran d'Ache Storm B for me Wordsworth in red (J. Herbin 1670 Rouge Hematite, out of a Lamy with a 1.5mm italic)
  13. A while back I purchased a bottle of J. Herbin pen cleaner (Nettoyant pour stylo) from La Couronne du Comte and I just got a chance to try it out (on the MB I posted about in this thread. Anyhow, I don't have any huge revelations to impart or anything, but it is a very pleasant to use product and seems eminently suited to its stated purpose. It cleaned the pen pictured in the other thread well (as far as I can see... I'm sure there's lingering dried on ink in the works). It has a very pleasant orange-peel scent that reminds me quite a lot of those orange oil cleaners and 'goo/stain removers' you can buy at the big box stores. The bottle is 50ml and has instructions in French, German and English. RRP from La Couronne du Comte was € 5,95. I don't know if it'll be a regular staple for me, but as a one off and for special situations, it certainly makes a nice change from dish soap + ammonia. Pictures below (sorry, my phone was handy)... Warm regards from cold wet autumn-y Norway
  14. alexander_k

    Two Greys

    I've always liked grey in clothes or on paper but it was relatively recently that I added a grey ink to my daily users. Having become quite satisfied with Diamine, I restricted my search to their Graphite and Grey. Graphite I liked a lot but it wasn't a pure grey, so the choice was easy. Recently I received a bottle of J. Herbin's Encre Grise Nuage so I tried that one too. The results of a brief comparison were as follows: http://www.re-h.nl/alexander/pens/greys_dry_s.jpg Probably the most interesting part was that Gris Nuage didn't appear that much lighter as in other comparisons (e.g. https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/6567-herbin-gris-nuage/). As usually after every trial, I put the paper under the tap. In this case I was impressed by both inks because they exhibited enough resistance to water. Even on the top right where it hit Diamine Grey rather violently, causing some smudging, the text remained clear enough for any practical purpose. After thirty seconds or so I turned the tap off. Diamine Grey was the winner by a slight margin: it had remained grey, while Gris Nuage had turned a bit beige. http://www.re-h.nl/alexander/pens/greys_wet_s.jpg The conclusion is that I'm going to trust Diamine Grey more in my note-taking. Its pencil-like appearance makes it appropriate for rough notes and being reasonably resistant to water means I can use it under more circumstances than I had expected initially. Links to large versions of the figures: http://www.re-h.nl/alexander/pens/greys_dry.jpg http://www.re-h.nl/alexander/pens/greys_wet.jpg
  15. nomadhacker

    Rouge Hematite Swap Thread

    Following up from this thread: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/249977-how-to-recognize-old-formula-j-herbin-1670-rouge/ It seems there are people who dislike the sediment-heavy original J. Herbin 1670 Rouge Hematite but liked the red color. And there are people who dislike the new sheen-reduced reformulation. I thought it would be nice to start a thread where people who may be interested in exchanging their reasonably unused (for whichever reason) bottles for the opposite with someone who has the opposite problem. Please make all trade offers via PM to keep personal details out of the threads. Also, an update when your trade has been made would be nice, to let people know you're off the list. To participate in this, simply supply the following in your post (using myself as example): I Have: Reformulation I Want: Original
  16. Got said ink some time ago and I've always struggled to get it to flow after a day... Tried different pens, nothing... It was so bad I realized I wasn't even using the ink and I started looking for alternatives (blood red, although I'd like to get Diamine's Poppy Red too). Then I decided to clean the pen with a bit of dishwasher liquid, letting it soak for a night, and give it a final go by trying to write every day, even if it's a single line... Lo and behold, it hasn't skipped for a whole week... This is probably obvious, but I thought I'd write this for those of us with less patience... There's still a lot of gunk but it hasn't even skipped once, I'm amazed. Still just might get that Poppy Red for another pen though.





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