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  1. Hello dear members of FPN, I would like to know whether there are any ways to identify when the particular bottle of J Herbin has been manufactured. Also is there a shelf life to their inks (non-shimmer one, I am looking at Poussiere De Lune with interest). This is assuming that the ink itself was not sun-bathing on a window display or the bottle otherwise tampered with. I am also looking at PR Ebony Purple, but am wary of catching a bad sample, now that their inks are manufactured after the passing of the original owner (who presumably knew the secret sauce to make these colors tick). Read enough to know that I may also get one sample with slime/sludge/mold etc. Thanks in anticipation,
  2. I've just photographed a bunch of Col-O-Ring cards with darker blue-green inks, while comparing them to a custom-mixed ink discussed in Inky Recipes: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/334121-masques-mix-black-swan-in-icelandic/ I thought I'd share the photographs here, in case they will be helpful for anyone. Since display calibration and general accuracy of representation varies, the main value of these is comparative between the shades. Though I did try to make the colors appear as I see them in person (at least on my devices). I think Fire& Ice should be slightly more saturated and a tad more green. Turquoise and Eau de Nil should be a bit less saturated, more matte. Diamine Asa Blue is a slightly turquoise medium blue. Birmingham Pen Co. Fountain Turquoise is a pale greenish turquoise. Lamy Petrol is similar to Noodler's Aircorp Blue Black in regular writing: both are quite green blue-blacks. ACBB has no sheen, Petrol has unique rose gold sheen. Sailor's Yama Dori was a disappointment to me: it's a dark teal-black that's got a kind of matte washed out appearance. Granted it does sheen easily, but I just didn't care for the lackluster base color. Robert Oster Fire & Ice: ranges from dark blue-teal to very vivid glowing turquoise, depending on the pen used (dry or wet). Sheen is pretty minimal unless you let the ink concentrate sitting in a pen for a few days. Diamine Eau de Nil: nice muted blue-teal, darker, not too vivid Robert Oster Tranquility: this is a green-teal Robert Oster Aqua: more green than Fire & Ice J. Herbin Emerald of Chivor: similar to Aqua in base color. Sheen and shimmer can be hit or miss, depending on paper and concentration Organics Studio Walden Pond "Blue" : definitely a misnomer, there is almost nothing blue about it. It's strongly green, though on the bluer green side. Sheens a vivid metallic magenta so easily, it can take over the whole writing. If you use a dip pen with it and low absorbent paper like Clairefontaine or greeting cards, the metallic sheen completely covers up the green-black, and the letters look like you wrote them with a metallic magenta ink.
  3. Ink Shoot-Out : Pelikan Edelstein Smoky Quartz vs J. Herbin Lie de Thé Last year, Pelikan pleasantly surprised me with its Ink of the Year 2017 - Smoky Quartz, and I've been really enjoying this smoky brown liquid. Fellow member Jan2016 then suggested that J. Herbin Lie de Thé is a very similar ink. That of course peaked my interest... so I got me a bottle of Lie de Thé and decided to pitch both inks against each other. Time to do a detailed comparison, and find out which of these is the better ink. Enter... the Ink Shoot-Out. A brutal fight spanning five rounds, where truly formidable inks do battle to determine who is the winner. And this time it's really a battle of giants! In the left corner - the new star from Hanover and Prussian heavyweight : Pelikan Edelstein Smoky Quartz. In the right corner, the crown jewel of Paris and offspring from a long line of giants : J. Herbin Lie de Thé. The boxing hall is packed to the roof, the crowds are cheering! Let the fight begin and may the best ink win... Round 1 First Impressions These are indeed heavyweights with a firm impression on the paper. Both inks leave a well-saturated line with excellent contrast to the page when used with my Lamy Safari M-nib on Rhodia N°16 notepad paper. Both inks also show subtle shading, without too much contrast between the light and darker parts, which I find aesthetically pleasing. The inks look quite similar, but there are some differences: Lie de Thé is a lighter brown, with more yellow undertones. This also shows in the chromatography of the inks. This lighter nature of Lie de Thé is most obvious in swatches, less so in written text.Lie de Thé lays down a wetter line. Smoky Quartz in contrast is a drier ink, but a really well lubricated one. With broader nibs, e.g. with the scribbles made with a 1.5 mm calligraphy nib, Smoky Quartz shows a bit more character, with a more pleasing appearance.Both inks make a great first impression. But when they climbed into the ring, the German champion radiated more confidence. I prefer its slightly darker hue, and the fact that it shows more character with the calligraphy nib. These inks are well matched, but for this round Smoky Quartz gets a small advantage from the judge. The chromatography clearly shows that both inks have lots in common. They have a really similar composition, with only a touch more yellow in the French ink's mix of dyes. Round 2 Writing Sample The writing sample was done on Rhodia N°16 Notepad with 80 gsm paper. Both inks behaved flawlessly, with no feathering and no show-through or bleed-through. With the EF nib, the darker complexion of Smoky Quartz comes into play, resulting in more contrast-rich writing. I also noticed that Smoky Quartz leaves a crisper line on the page, especially when using broader nibs. My guess is that this is due to the really pronounced initial wetness of Lie de Thé, which results in a slightly less well-defined line. Colourwise both inks look similar in writing, although there is definitely more of a yellow undertone in the J. Herbin ink. Both inks also shade nicely, without too much contrast between light and dark parts. This aesthetically pleasing shading gives more character to your writing. For this round, the focus is on writing, and here Smoky Quartz got a slight advantage. It works better with EF nibs, and also shows a crisper line. Not much of an advantage, but enough to result in a win on points. Round 3 Pen on Paper This round allows the batlling inks to show how they behave on a range of fine writing papers. From top to bottom, we have : FantasticPaper, Life Noble, Tomoe River and Original Crown Mill cotton paper. All scribbling and writing was done with a Lamy Safari M-nib. Both champions did well, with no show-through nor bleed-through. But this round is not about technicalities, it is about aesthetics and beauty. Are the fighters able to make the paper shine ? One thing is immediately apparent: these inks are at home on a wide range of papers, both white and off-white ones. On more absorbent paper like Fantasticpaper (top), the inks look really similar. With Tomoe River - definitely a non-absorbent paper - Lie de Thé shows its lighter nature. But it also lays down a less crisp line, making it look less interesting and losing some of its beauty. Both inks are on par with each other, but Smoky Quartz has a slight advantage in the looks department - it shows a more consistent look across the range of papers. For this round, victory is granted to Smoky Quartz. Not a knock-out, but definitely a win on points. Round 4 Ink Properties These inks are not fast-drying, requiring 20-25 seconds to dry completely (with an M-nib on Rhodia paper). Lie de Thé takes a bit more time to dry. Both inks are reasonably smudge-resistant. Some colour rubs off when using a moist Q-tip cotton swab, but the text itself remains crisp and clear. Being the lighter ink, the smudging is less pronounced with Lie de Thé. To test water resistance, I dripped water on the grid and let it sit there for 15 minutes, after which I removed the water with a paper towel. Both inks are remarkably water-resistant! The brown colour disappears, but a clearly readable dark-grey residue remains even after a 15 minute soak. Really impressive. For this round, both champions were well-matched, but Lie de Thé gets a small advantage for its less pronounced smudging. Round 5 The Fun Factor Welcome to the final round. Here I give you a purely personal impression of both inks, where I judge which of them I like most when doing some fun stuff like doodling and drawing. Both inks do well, and allow for some nice effects when using a water brush. I really enjoyed using them. With both inks, you can coax a broad colour range out of them. Dilute them with water, and you get the yellowish hues used for the background. Really saturate them, and you get a very similar looking dark brown. The foliage in the picture shows the undiluted colour, where Lie de Thé is obviously the lighter coloured ink. But overall, both champions did equally well, and no clear winner emerges. So for this round, I call it a draw - I greatly enjoyed playing with both of them. The Verdict Both inks are real jewels, that work on all types of paper. And being water-resistant, they make fine inks for use at work in an EDC pen. Is there a clear and definite winner? No. But the German champion did show a bit more promise : better contrast with EF nibs, and overall a crisper line on non-absorbent paper. Small advantages, but enough for this judge to declare Pelikan Edelstein Smoky Quartz the winner of this fight.
  4. what is the most efficient ways to test all the fountain pen inks available and to make a like for like comparison? For instance i have tested Waterman, Herbin, Viscontini and Diamine but the shade of colour vary a great deal i like Visconti Bordeuax as a red but on other days i may like Diamine Oxblood but i like the wetness of a waterman red ink. I aim to reduce to a set number of of inks, so a maximum of two for each of the colours Red, Green, Blue, Black.for daily use. 1 unique colour such as an orange/brown/purple for journal writing. let me know your ideas thanks
  5. Close but not the same. Look at the chromo's! J Herbin Vert Pre Diamine Spring Green
  6. When I started out on my quest for inks that look nice AND have very good water resistance properties, honestly the last ink series I thought I'd be getting were J. Herbin's standard fountain pen inks. I had a very misguided opinion of the line as being too faded looking, low saturation, dull, certainly not water resistant. That's until I accidentally found some reviews that showed water tests of J. Herbin's Lie de Thé. I also realized how interesting of an ink it is. It led me down the path of reanalyzing the whole line of inks, and I almost got a large size of Poussiere de Lune and some other colors. But back to Lie de Thé! I take back what I thought and welcome this ink with open arms to the top of my favorite inks list. The color: It's a very complex sepia color! It keeps shifting between looking more green? or is it more orange? or yellow? As a paper towel drip test below shows (green-gray-brown base, orange and yellow elements over that), this ink has all of those colors, and due to the excellent shading property, all those colors are visible to some extent. But this ink definitely keeps you guessing if you stare at it for a while, influenced also by lighting conditions. Shading: Amazing shading! Not only that, but there's some color variation between different intensity parts of writing. This ink's ability to shade comes through well in all of my pens: from dry writers with wide italic nibs to wet writers with round nibs. Sheen: none, I really tried to make it appear, but it's not there Ink flow: Pretty high flow ink in all of my pens, lubrication is medium, not as high as, say, Organics Studio Walden Pond Blue, which is highly lubricating. Bleed-through: none observed on Fabriano's Bioprima or Clairefontaine paper. A small amount with a wet nib pen on standard [low quality] printer paper Feathering: none on high quality paper, a little bit on cheap paper. Water resistance: another stand-out property of this ink! Some pale color wash off, but what remains is a highly legible and neat gray-green-brown base color. Photographs were made in diffuse natural daylight indoors on a somewhat sunny day. I don't like using my scanner to show inks, as it's not terribly accurate. I can get accurate photographs much more easily with my set-up (paper shown below is Fabriano Bioprima 85g/m2, pale cream color)
  7. tuintu

    J. Herbin - Éclat De Saphir

    Hi all, Four-year pause, I am back to the forum at last. And i'd like to introduce you my first ever ink review. Actually it's not a review, it's just a scribble. I am a true amateur and sorry for my terrible handwriting. Next time i'll try macro shoot. By the way if the topic is inappropriate, moderators can move it or delete... J. Herbin Eclat de Saphir is my second ink after Waterman Absolute Brown. and the pen is also my favourite type, Scrikss 17 with a Fine nib. Hope you like it...
  8. white_lotus

    J Herbin Emerald Of Chivor 1670

    I recently received a sample of this ink. I don't normally go for glitter inks and I wouldn't get this one. It's not bad at all, and the flow is very good. Since this was a sample I can't say whether I received the proper amount of glitter bits. It sheens amazingly on Tomoe River. Pen: Edison Premiere (M-steel) Papers: MvL=Mohawk via Linen, TR=Tomoe River, Hij=Hammermill 28 lb inkjet, Rhodia=Rhodia 90g ivory. Camera: iPhone 7 No sheen on MvL or Hij. A feeble attempt to capture the sheen. It's much more dramatic in the flesh.
  9. It's time for another Ink Giveaway PIF! I am giving away a nearly full bottle of J. Herbin Orange Indien ink. This ink is similar to the OMAS Orange I gave away in an earlier PIF, but is a little less saturated. Here are the rules: 1) United States only. 2) Winners of my previous PIFs (Levenger and OMAS inks) are not eligible for this PIF. 3) Everyone who posts on this thread saying they want the ink through Tuesday, January 3, 2017 is eligible. 4) On January 4, 2017 I'll post here to close the PIF and everyone ahead of me in the thread will be entered. I'll select a winner using the random number generator at random.org. I'll list the winner here, and contact them via PM to set up shipment. 5) You can enter as many of my PIFs as you want, but you can win only one. In the event the same FPN member wins two PIFs, I'll ask you to choose which you want. I'll draw another name to win the other prize. 6) I will ship to the winner for free, in exchange for a letter or postcard from you containing handwritten samples of your five favorite ink colors. Or, you can pay for shipping, whichever you prefer. (I will ship via USPS). 7) Winners who don't respond to my PM within three days after close of the PIF will forfeit their winning. I'll draw again to find another winner. Here is a writing sample of the ink.
  10. We currently have the latest ink from J. Herbin "Caroube de Chypre" in stock. Its a gorgeous heavily saturated ink with a mixture of dark brown and red hues completed with a sparkling gold effect. Make sure to shake the ink well before filling your pen and consider using a type of paper that is not too absorbent, to get the most out of this beautiful ink. Retail: $26 Call: 855-565-1818 email: orders@airlineintl.com Order Online
  11. Inferno2Inferno

    J. Herbin Black Question

    So one of my favorite fountain pen inks out there as far as black is concerned is J.Herbin Perle Noire. IMO it writes like silk no matter which pen I put it in. Just one question: does anybody else find that this particular ink tends to leak in the cap more often than others? Do you find your nib to be exceptionally wet with this particular black? Any insights would be great!
  12. Just in case you need a nice summertime fix of very pretty brown n gold ink! http://www.gouletpens.com/j-herbin-caroube-de-chypre-1670-anniversary-ink/p/H150-45 Images http://cdn-tp1.mozu.com/6639-8588/cms/8588/files/d083f655-a3e4-430f-91b9-c91f4ec3cb0d/ http://cdn-tp1.mozu.com/6639-8588/cms/8588/files/2317d2a9-56bd-4256-baab-803782e93fef/
  13. My current research led me to a kind of "what's hot"/guide book on the must-visit shops and most notable people of Paris in 1692. There is a very small section on writing and stationery shops and within that section a page that I think many of us would have earmarked back in the day; pen and ink aficionados never change Here's a loose translation of the entire short passage: At [the house named] 'l'Image Saint François', on rue Saint André next to the bridge Saint Michel, there is a stationer famous for the good ink (la bonne encre), for precision pen knives and for sharpened quills. I haven't done any reading on ink history, but has anyone come across any literature on this "good ink"? Herbin isn't mentioned in the section either for his sealing wax or for his inks. The Herbin website notes that he "created 'The Jewel of Inks' in his shop on the Rue des Fossés Saint-Germain in Paris in 1700" and that "by 1700, the company was producing 'l’Encre de la Tête Noire,' followed by 'Perle des Encres,' (The Jewel of Inks) and 'l’Encre des Vaisseaux.'" Could "the good ink" be "l’Encre de la Tête Noire" since it preceded the "Jewel of Inks" and could have launched around then? My research isn't centered on ink, but if I come across any other ink mentions I will post them here!
  14. Here's one I found interesting. I've only played with J. Herbin's 1670 series of inks, so it was nice to try something a bit more conventional. I had bought an empty bottle just for the style. I'm surprised I was able to get so much leftover ink out of it.
  15. Madbohemianpoet

    J Herbin: Poussiere De Lune

    This may seem like a strange question but is J Herbin's Poussiere de Lune actually made out of moondust? I ask, as every online store on the internet both in the UK (and even Lacouronne du Comte) seems to be out of stock. I've been told the restocking times could be anything from one week to three months (Lacouronne du Comte informed me that their distributors are on holiday!!!). So I've bought a 10ml bottle on ebay for now and gone with a replacement colour at LdC as they'd already taken payment prior to contacting me. Is this colour that popular or are J Herbin phasing this colour out? Thanks
  16. Hello there, here is my first review for a wonderful ink. Hope you enjoy Armand.D Pictures : http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/31/1438347092-review-herbin-re-2.jpg http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/31/1438347102-img-0315.jpg http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/31/1438347109-img-0317.jpg
  17. http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/370e744c3944c0f5d895c4916ba3b3c6.jpg I was lucky to receive a sample of the coming J.Herbin Emerald of Civor from Bureau Direct (UK)! Thank you so much for the chance to try this amazing thing! http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/fd647a72e524b34242c990854cfa216c.jpg http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/f9037bf64160cdc716cd61f9ed592190.jpg ^Tomoe River paper The process of filling up pens with this and the Stormy Grey is pretty much the same. Shake the bottle till you can't see any gold at the bottom, and then quikly fill your pen. This is the best was to get a good amount of gold in your pen. Many people only use these inks in their cheaper pens, because of the particles. I could clean the Stormy Grey pretty easily, but I haven't tried to clean the Chivor yet. So, even though I had no issues, please use these inks carefully. Here we go with some shading, sheen and gold! http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/9549b6700fd3883ec8d502657e32e0ce.jpg ^Tomoe River above, Canson Satin tracing paper below. http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/9d36565bf073c41462821780246313fe.jpg ^Sheen on Tomoe River http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/0269cabf3bd75ccc7c04754e1aa261c8.jpg http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/56fc27a198fdf816f8be3454d6602b66.jpg http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/c4cd841a35972011b1f69cecc816c96b.jpg http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/159cc57287494cce8ffd17a43c71eb28.jpg ^80g printer paper, Safari 1.5 http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/377a29ce537291b328d05e0f6756cab1.jpg ^ 80g printer paper, Pelikan M600 medium. No sheen on this paper, but you still have the gold! Even this was it looks pretty sweet! http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/27e143156a125c2be67faa698046123d.jpg ^90g Clairefontaine paper http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/8d9172c0c0dd709ffc713f0fa4b9b20c.jpg ^Tomoe River http://kephost.com/images/2015/07/23/413b8d413f42bd9869edd3c624c6ba1b.jpg ^Tomoe River This ink is simply amazing! It needs a good paper to come alive, but be warned that you might fall in deep love with it!
  18. Hi, we have just got in a sample of J Herbin's Emerald of Chivor ink and it deserves a quick review. I will say this up front : this one is a game changer. J Herbin caused a revolution last year with Stormy Grey. The anticipation was incredible, the sales were over the roof...and mostly...it got people talking and writing again. Turns out, Stormy Grey was just the beginning. This year J Herbin have opted for a green coloured ink with gold specs. Here is the official info: After the 1670 Hematite Red, Ocean Blue and Stormy Grey, we now have Chivor Emerald.In the middle of the XVI century, when the Conquistadors discovered the Colombian emerald mines, in particular the Chivor mine renowned for its emeralds with bluish tints. From then on, because of their exceptional qualities, they conquered the imperial courts of Europe thanks to the Indian traders.Later, J.Herbin continued his journeys to India. It is said that he always kept an emerald with him as the virtues of this precious stone are thought to protect the traveler… It is very difficult to photograph and describe, but I will do my best. Post might be a little picture heavy The bottle is the same as other 3 Anniversary inks. Teal seal with golden thread. Specs in the bottle remind me of nail varnish. Emerald describes the colour very well. Shading goes from Vert Reseda to dark teal. Ink flow is excellent! Ink has a heavy outer contour purple sheen (just like Sailor's Yama Budo), but there is also light green metallic sheen (colour similar to Fisher's Green Space Pen). This two-coloured sheen is in my opinion unheard (un-seen) of! Just like Stormy Grey, this ink is water-resistant. Not water-proof, but if you use it to write the address on the envelope, it should be OK. So here it is...over-all very exciting ink... What do you think? Is it your cup of tea? Would you get a bottle (or two)? I have been trying to find The One and accumulated almost 100 different colours (mostly green, turquoise, gold) of ink. This one will rule them all! Mishka
  19. Here's my review of the new version of J. Herbin Bleu Ocean 1670 that contains the long awaited gold pigment. As far as appearances go, the new version looks worlds better just with the inclusion of the gold, but it's still nowhere near as well behaved as Rouge Hematite. But it's definitely worth the money just based on its uniqueness! Here's my review of the original Bleu Ocean 1670 formula (please scroll all the way down for a more recent scan as the old scan has a horrible magenta color cast and isn't accurate), here's my review of the related Stormy Grey 1670, and here's my review of Rouge Hematite 1670 (the original formula—the most recent is the fourth version). I'll be adding some more pictures tomorrow. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/GssLXb.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/mjHiMP.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/gn252A.jpg
  20. I found a stash of old reviews that got misplaced during a house move, so this one's a bit old. Rouille D'ancre is one of my favorite "not for everyday use" inks. It's a bit dry when writing, but this color is completely unique. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/93tSKo.jpg
  21. I found a stash of old reviews that got misplaced during a house move, so this one's a bit old. Still a great ink though! http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/XQv830.jpg





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