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  1. chromantic

    General Nib Questions

    Hi, everyone. I'm expecting my first Esterbrook this week, an SJ with a 1550 nib. I've been looking over the nib list at esterbrook.net and had some newbie questions. > First off, how do the nib sizes compare with other brands/regions? > I understand flex and rigid/manifold but what's the distinction between firm and relief? > What's the difference between the lower and higher numbered ones? Materials, quality? I use mostly fines, with some mediums thrown in. I see the 1550 is a Firm Extra Fine so I'm looking at maybe the 2442 Falcon stub or 2556 Firm Fine, or possibly a 5556 Firm Fine or 5668 Firm Medium; that's where I'm wondering about the difference between, say, the 2556 and the 5556. How broad would the 2442 stub line be compared to the fines and mediums I'm used to? Thanks in advance for any advice. edit: I found Richard Binder's nib list which contains helpful pictures with very basic descriptions of the various numerical series - Durachrome, Palladium, etc - that sheds a little light on that aspect for me; so it does seem the higher the number the better the quality, which makes sense. But is there any 'practical' difference between the various materials that will affect the writing experience? The esterbrook.net list describes the 2442 as "firm smooth, popular with execs" while RB's list says "backhand writing". Huh? I take it, also, that "fine writing" refers to line width and not, like the 1314, for "social use and manuscript".
  2. So... I got a cool Fern Green Esterbrook J (with 1 cap) and really like the thing. The body of the pen has a crack around the cap-threads, but it's only apparent when removing the section and bladder. Which I did. because I wanted to see it. but that's not the issue. The issue is the constant seepage of ink around the feed/section interface. Again, I took the feed and nib out, but this time for a good reason! It was 0.1mm off-center and bugging me. So now it leaks, it gets into the cap, it spreads onto the section and gets on my fingers. How to fix it?
  3. jmccarty3

    My First Esterbrook

    Just inked up my first Esterbrook, a beautiful little SJ in green that I bought from Brian Anderson, with a 1551 medium nib. It's a bit smaller than I'm used too, but that's not really a problem. It writes very smoothly with Waterman Mysterious Blue. I'm glad I was curious enough to try this brand.
  4. shannonkd

    Unknown Esterbrooks

    Hi! I found these two pens at an antique shop. One is missing the nib and the other has the nib which says Esterbook 9556. Can you tell me what those numbers mean? Do any of you guys know the actual model for these? I'm guessing they are both Esties since they're so similar, but I could be completely wrong!
  5. Driphtwood

    Esterbrook Ebonite Section Soaking

    First of all, I've tried searching for more information on this topic, and didn't find what I was looking for. Forgive me if this subject has already been flushed out. I recently purchased an Esterbrook J on a whim, and set to work on restoring my first pen to working order. I was able to pull the section off and remove the disintegrating sac, but found my first roadblock in removing the nib unit from the section. Long story short, I soaked the pen in a solution of ammonia, water, and dish soap and was able to clean out all the old ink and successfully unscrew the nib unit. Now however, I think I may have damaged the pen! Apparently you're not supposed to soak ebonite in water right, and I could be wrong but the whole section is ebonite. I can't imagine soaking in ammonia did anything to help either. The section is now a different color than the barrel, slightly greenish very dark grey instead of black, and is more matte than glossy, again unlike the barrel. My questions are as follows. If you're not supposed to soak ebonite, how would i have cleaned out the ink from the section? I'm considering attempting to restore the old finish by buffing away the damaged surface of the section. Should I go ahead and give this a try? I've attached a photo of the pen. As a final note, it's possible that it already looked like this. I honestly can't tell. This is a photo from the original ebay listing. It looks like it might already have been even less slightly discolored?
  6. Hello guys n' gals of FPN!!! I have bought my J under the assumption that it would the the first machined pen that I have ever bought, (July of '14) , and recently I have been hearing that Esterbrook had some sort of injection molding system that is futuristic! I have heard that the Js' were either made on such a machine or were molded, welded, then machines. Any ideas? Are Esties Injection Molded or Machined?? Thanks!!
  7. fireant

    Nurse Pen Question?

    Hello-I attended my first ever pen show yesterday. I found a white Esterbrook nurse's pen with a black jewels-bought it, then walked around and the next dealer had a white nurse's fountain pen in a box that also came with a white ballpoint pen (the refill still works). I am not sure if the set came in the box supplied. My question though is were the nurse's ballpoint pens common? ETA-hit wrong button-here is a picture.
  8. need4news

    Pen Noob In Tennessee

    Salutations and Hiyahs, I'm not a techie, so the low-tech but quality workmanship of fountain pens attracts me. Probably a bit of a tactile person, too, who likes the feel of a good pen and good ink on quality paper. That feeling is right up there with beautiful sunsets, college football, sausage gravy and biscuits, and the kiss from an English Bulldog (probably in that order, too). Small starter collection of mostly Esterbrooks (a couple of Js and a few M2s), a Wearever Zenith, Diamond Point from the mid-40's, a Waterman's Ideal (barrel only, looking for a cap), and a few newer ones (YAFA, etc.). One of the M2s is my daily writer, but I'm trying to get the smaller blue Diamond Point to work soon. Thanks to all of you much more experienced collectors and aficionados who help those of us new to the hobby get our feet wet (with quality ink, preferably). I'll be picking your collective (pun intended) brains over the next few months.
  9. ... not in the accounting sense but as a competition? Although I have yet to try seriously all the pens I own let alone more coming in, there were already a two or three about which I was thinking that, maybe, they lacked a long term future in my hands so perhaps I should decide which (if any) I could sell sooner rather than later? To this end I inked a few, not all of those under consideration for moving along, and set about a "write-off". That did not work. I liked all of them. Maybe I could discard one on aesthetics? No, the most boring one had a lovely, very fine yet somewhat flexible nib which wrote lightly and easily in the hand. I am back to the longer term approach; see which ones do not get brought back into rotation so much, and to get to there I need to use them all for a while. Have you ever tried any sort of method to determine what you might keep or what you might sell or pass on? What was the result of that?
  10. Saw this on fleabay and immediately my spidey senses started tingling. It just doesn't look right to my UNTRAINED eyes. Why would there be Transitional J's in the same salesman sampler as regular J's? Also, why would there be multiple pen/pencil sets of the same size included? Has anyone ever seen a complete, original salesman's kit? Is this one correct or just a bunch of Esterbrooks all displayed in an old saleman's box? Their wording is a bit suspect as well as they don't really make the claim it is an all original kit. http://goo.gl/0Iu7N4 I'm thinking the latter.
  11. Rach31

    My Collection

    I have a mix of Esterbrook pens that I love. It all started with a NOS Copper LJ, and from there it grew. I have a good mix of copper Esties, that color just loves me. I just thought I would share since I know I enjoy seeing the variety in everyone's collections. http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a475/Rach_31/3590CBD9-FA38-47C4-80BE-DA5D31D60DCE_zpsuv4enodr.jpg
  12. Hello everyone... For my first review I will start with the Estie J. I have owned this pen for about a year so for those of ya who haven't bought a J yet and are worried about it being 'fragile' or prone to cracking like other pens from this era, (not mentioning any pens, Parker 21!) Now moving on to the review... PART ONE: Da Nib - The nib is real nice! The nib is a 9555 and writes smoothly with just a hint of feedback - enough to let one know that one is writing with a fountain pen. The nib isn't buttery smooth though, but is impressive reconsidering that a lot of fountain pens these days that cost as much as an Estie, (I find this to be prevalent in modern American pens, unfortunately Parker and Sheaffer seem to suffer from this the most,[Chinese manufacturing?]) have an uncharacteristic writing experience... No, this pen won't skip for those who write fast. An enjoyable nib to write with, though. 8/10 PART TOO: Quality - This pen is solid. Very solid. The accents on this pen, (thank goodness), are stainless steel, meaning that they aren't going to suffer from plating loss. The cellulose, (it isn't celluloid), is solid and feels warm, so using this pen for long writing sessions is no big deal. The pen is somewhat light so flexing your muscles with it would be embarrassing, to say the least. I go to school and use this pen A LOT. Just look at it! No worries, this pen will survive through everything! (I have heard that it is not a good plane pen, though.) 9/10 PART FREE: Fill 'er Up! - The pen uses a lever filling mechanism and is self-explanatory to use, (and that is coming from a guy who is used to C/C filling!) Please, if you buy this pen, buy it restored, a leaky pen is not ANYBODY'S idea of fun... Cleaning the pen is a cinch - just unscrew the nib and feed and fill the body up with water... Then SHAKE - A SHAKE - A SHAKE! believe me, cleaning this pen makes you younger! 10/10 PART FFFFOOUR: Pocket-ability - The clip just looks pretty. Just shove the pen in your pocket. Clipping the pen in your pocket will result in an ink stain, like the one in my jacket... 3/10 PART FAAVE: Conclusions - In all, I love this pen. Really. This pen is a keeper and as many Estie fans know these pens make for great daily writers. Excluding the clip, the pen is fantastic and I would recommend this pen to anybody. This pen makes for a great all-rounder and is appropriate at school, work, and at formal occasions. Overall, this pen gets a 75%. And that is coming from a very critical man. (I really love this pen's charm, though...) Thanks for readin', Al.
  13. Maine Vintner

    Boy Finds Esterbrook, A Sumgai Story

    Hi Everyone, While I've been a FPN member for sometime I've tended towards Montblanc, Waterman, and Sheaffer. I've never had an Esterbrook post, until now. I hope you enjoy the handwritten tale. I'm not sure how to reorient the photos but open to feedback to make reading the story easier. First attempt at this. Best, John
  14. I became re-interested in stylograph pens, prompted by the post: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/306057-custom-stylographic-pens/ Photos attached are of my first attempt at using Koh-I-Noor nib assemblies to create stylograph type pens that would also accept Esterbrook nib assemblies. The material I used is vintage old stock cebloplast with aluminum hardware to bring out the white in the material. The feed uses standard Rapidograph refillable cartridge. Comments and questions are welcomed.
  15. Mob Mentality

    Dip Pen Storage

    Hello everybody, I was wondering if anybody had any suggestions for dip pen storage which includes holders and nibs. I know that a similar topic exists but it didn't really encompass the storage of such a large quantity of nibs and holders. The last time I counted I have about 6,000 to 7,000 various nibs all new old stock and about 50 or so dip pen holders many of which are also new old stock and are in their original boxes. Some of the boxes of nibs are still sealed some are open. I store some nibs in small polyethylene bags by model and company and leave others in their original box and put the boxes in bags or polypropylene containers. I want to make sure that however they are being stored will be safe for long term storage. I'm not sure if it's better to leave the nibs in the box or to remove them and put them in small bags. Any advice or suggestions would be great. Here are a few pictures. Davide http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah48/Davide_Borrelli/Crown_1_zpsoq3mevy8.jpg http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah48/Davide_Borrelli/Eagle%20Corktex_04_zps8es335gz.jpeg http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah48/Davide_Borrelli/Falcon%20Stub_zps15a83ksn.jpg http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah48/Davide_Borrelli/Eagle%20Pencil%20Co%20Carton%201_zps9zaeexyk.jpg This is a carton of E740 nibs there are 25 boxes of 144 ct. The original carton is marked Eagle Pencil Co.
  16. Having recently acquired a good number of 484 and 444 ink wells and dip-less pens, I've spent the better part of the last three days soaking and cleaning everything. I think I have a ways to go on these parts, still. The ebonite rods in the ink well feed are the most fascinating to me. Given how many there are and how light they are, I'm afraid to wash them in any meaningful way; washing the feed cup will cause the rods to float up and out and into my sink, and washing them in their own bowl makes me shudder to think what recollecting them would be like. I've resorted soaking them with the metal washer holding them on, rinsing them thoroughly, then removing the washer and letting the rods dry on some paper towels. I shouldn't be surprised at how much ink is still in these old wells and materials, but I am. Still, the process has been quite fun. A
  17. "Festercrook, the Modern Esterbrook" There's a fiery post on the { Phil Olin } Blog about the "new" (retread) Esterbrook Company, an outrageous attempt at a Massdrop rip-off, when it was stopped, and how Massdrop sanitized the debacle. Here's the link. [be sure to bookmark it because it seems these days there's a good chance this post will be Censored here on the FPN]: http://philolin.me/festercrook-the-modern-esterbrook/ It seems to me that the "new" Esterbrook company tried to sell via Massdrop a pen that is surely a cheap Pakistani or Indian school pen - for $50 bucks! The only thing different about the awful Esterbrook pen offering is the vile vomiting of the vintage Esterbrook logo on the barrel. Shame on you Robert Rosenberg of the "new" Esterbrook Company. This unsavory story reminds me of the "Stipula Splash" pen; a super-cheap Pakistani school pen that was cosmetically embellished in a minor way and offered for for $80 USD each. Wasn't it Yafa Pens that was (is) behind the Stipula Splash? Didn't Robert Rosenberg scrape-up the lapsed Conklin trademark and sell it to Yafa as a (yet another) vintage brand retread? And while we're at, here's a link to the venerable thread on the Esterbrook resurrection here on the FPN. It is worth a read as a sort-of back-story: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/277581-esterbrook-brand-being-revived-this-december/
  18. Darkbulb

    Did I Get A Good Esterbrook...?

    I am very much a newbie to this pen-thing but I have already become 'smitten' by the Esterbrook pens...their history and look. So...I decided I really wanted to try one out but since I am not very well versed in pens and restorations I wanted one that I could use 'out of the box'. I paid $40 for this Esterbrook J model. It comes with a 9556 (fine) nib and looks like it's in great condition. Seller's description: "This Esterbrook fountain pen is an unusually deep, rich shade of green. This pen has been cleaned, polished, and fitted with a new j-bar (internal spring) and a new, talced sac. This pen has no nicks, cracks, dings, or bite marks. It is truly a beautiful pen." I really like that it seems to be fully restored - both spring and sac - as I'm hoping that will mean years of use for me Some photos below - but also, will this be a good entry point for me into getting a good experience of what the Esterbrook pens are all about? Any issues or concerns? (Sorry for the many photos - I'm rather excited to get it ). http://i66.tinypic.com/301ebti.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/ohocye.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/24fi9w8.jpg http://i68.tinypic.com/10mpfyb.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/2dwb51f.jpg
  19. I have a nice black Flat top Esterbrook that needs a new home. It has a 1555 nib. Please only people that do not have any Esterbrooks and live in the US. Thanks, Rene'
  20. northstar

    Esterbrook Dollar Pen Clip

    Hello, How do I disassemble the clip of a esterbrook dollar pen? Thank you in advance.
  21. Dear Pen Lovers, I found an Esterbrook in my husbands garage sale finds. He was collecting used pens as he looses them. Of course, I fell in love. I researched what it is and then I went to the LA Pen show. There was a very nice person, who gave me a new ink bag. I filled it and have used the pen 5 or 6 times since. I noticed last week that it split in half. I never dropped it. I filled it very gently, as I have seen these pens with bent levers, maybe 3 or 4 pumps.? It is still usable, and is not leaking yet. Could I have over filled the bag? Are all older pens in danger of breaking? Did I hold the body too tight? I do not feel that I hold pens roughly. I do not tap the desk with them, nor throw them at the cat. But I am afraid to touch it. Is this pen in danger of leaking? Are the older pens to delicate to be used? I was gifted an older Parker piston and I have it wrapped in cotton until I can figure this out. Thank you for your time. Tracie I am very new to this hobby. And I have only written in a forum 2 times. So if this is the wrong place then, first I apologize. Is this an Esterbrook forum or repair forum or a parker forum? 2nd please direct me how to FIND the correct place (and 3rd please direct me to an instruction page on forums. OK, maybe make that the first.)
  22. inkandseeds

    Esterbrook Display Case And Nibs

    I know some of you dislike ebay but there is an Esterbrook display case on ebay. The case comes with a selection of seventy NOS nibs. There are also some pens included. The item is titled "vintage esterbrook fountain pens". I wish i could buy it but i am sure that the price will quickly jump beyond what i can spend without getting a divorce or significantly reducing my life expectancy. http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-esterbrook-fountain-pens-/222027959860?hash=item33b1e5ce34:g:JGwAAOSwG-1WxhtT Normal disclaimer: I have nothing to do with this sale or the person selling it, just saw it today while avoiding grading papers. Hope i am not violating any rules here. Sorry if i am.
  23. I have seen several mentions of Venus nibs on Esterbrook pens, but I have not seen the reverse, and since the price of Esties on ebay seems to be going up lately, I am thinking of getting a Venus pen to use with an Estie nib I wish to buy. Any problems with assuming it will be fine? Thanks in advance.
  24. AAAndrew

    Pens For Sale 1918

    Two pages of the May, 1918 catalog for Chicago stationers Cameron, Amberg & Co. Oh, and I guess they were selling fountain pens as well.
  25. jabberwock11

    Just Received My First Esterbrook

    I have been a fan of Esterbrook dip pen nibs for a long time now, but have avoided buying an Esetrbrook fountain pen mostly due to ignorance as to what to look for when buying a vintage pen. After ogling some Esterbrooks and doing some research I finally decided to dive in. After debating between a blue J and a copper SJ, I pulled the trigger on the SJ in copper with a 9314-M nib. I inked the pen up with some Lamy Blue-Black and have been using it all day. After some experimentation and work I have come up with a few conclusions: 1) The SJ is about the same length as a TWSBI Mini (one of my favorite pens), but it is much thinner...making it a bit more difficult to handle. I will probably buy a standard J next. 2) I have used plenty of stub, italic, and right oblique nibs without any issues, but a left foot oblique is an entirely different creature. The 9314-M is smooth as butter, but it is difficult to angle properly. I am having some trouble adapting to this nib and this in turn is causing some discomfort. 3) Esterbrooks are addictive. I am having some difficulty adapting to this little pen and yet I am unwilling to give up on it and am looking at getting another (albeit larger) Esterbrook soon. I have a feeling that part of the issue that I am having finding the sweet spot on the 9314-M is due to the SJ's small size, so I am hopeful that this nib will be easier to use when I manage to pick up a J. I have a fine and medium Venus nib coming in the mail, so I will try those out on the SJ to see if the pen is more comfortable with a standard nib. I'll also continue to work at getting used to the 9314-M because when I do get it right it feels like I am writing on glass. In any event, I like the simple, hardy design of Esterbrook pens and the tons of available nib options. I look forward to trying out more Esterbrooks and getting to know some of the different nibs.





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