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Simple question: Do the Edelstein ink-cartridges fit in the Montblanc Meisterstück 145 pen? I tried with short Pelikan 4001 cartrdiges I had lying around, and 2 of those back to back fit without problem. (those Edelstein cartridges come in those nice little tins. I like nice little tins! ) http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb269/Blastmaster1972/Tijdelijk/IMG_1211-ed_zpsfma4i1s0.jpg Kind regards, Jos

Another Edelstein substitute thread... Topaz has recently come to my attention and I really like the wonderful colour of this ink. However I am torn on getting another bottle, I think it is rather expensive. Any ideas on how to find a suitable substitute? About the same colour, same level of wetness or wetter. I would prefer to stay within the Pelikan or Lamy lines (so 4001 or Lamy turquise probably, how does that behave in comparison to the Edelstein Topaz) or R&K (Blumare, Smaragdgrün?) Any ideas appreciated. thanks

Today I tried my new bottle of Pelikan Edelstein Garnet for the first time. This was given to me by my older brother as part of a trade, and the only direction I gave him was that I wanted a red ink, since I didn’t have a bottle of red in my herd already. This is not my favorite shade of red, but it is an otherwise very pleasant ink to use. It has good flow and seems to be well behaved on the paper I used, which is a 24 lb inkjet paper but not overly special, like Rhodia or something. Something that it does not have is a good water resistance, though it’s very difficult to find a red ink that does (if I need water resistant red, I’ll stick to something like a Pilot Juice). So, what’s my final verdict? I enjoy this ink and I’m glad to have it in my collection, but I would not buy this ink for myself. It’s a bit too pricey for what is essentially just a red ink without any special properties. I would probably go for something in the Diamine line since you get more ink for less money without losing any features (except for the pretty bottle) and then you have more options to pick exactly what shade of red you prefer. This ink was given to me as a gift and I am not being compensated for this review in any way. All opinions above are my own and you are free to disagree if you like. See the full page review here.

Pelikan Edelstein "Ink of the Year 2012" Turmaline. From the GIA: "Tourmaline’s colors have many different causes. It’s generally agreed that traces of iron, and possibly titanium, induce green and blue colors. Manganese produces reds and pinks, and possibly yellows." According to Pelikan, their Edelstein Turmaline is a plum coloured ink. I would call it pink. Some might call it dark pink, and some might call it bright pink. It is a lovely shade of pink for writers who like to use pink ink. It's very well behaved, very smooth to write with, flows well and lubricates the nib well. It's a high quality ink. This is what Pelikan say about it: "Every 50 ml high-value glass flacon is unique. The rich weight and soft curves make it a pleasure to hold in your hands. It‘s an ornament on every desk... Eye candy in every detail, a perfect gift for yourself and those you love. Please note our always changing Ink of the Year, which brings a fresh and modern Edelstein Ink color to you – limited to one year only. Product description Exclusive Ink Collection in a precious 50 ml flacon. The Edelstein Ink Collection comprises twelve brilliant colors with a special ingredient that ensures extra smooth writing and care for the fountain pen. The German word Edelstein translates as gem stone, and each color corresponds to the beautiful coloring of a gem." This isn't a waterproof or archival ink. Bearing in mind the paper I use is very smooth, and the nib was a Fine, this ink took 16-18 secs to dry. It flows wet, and lubricates the nib very well. It's such a smooth writing experience. It is currently available in beautiful 50ml glass flacons and cartridges It is available from many B&M shops and online retailers worldwide, but is a one year Limited Edition.

Hi, I'm new here, but I've kicked around online and can't find the answer to my question. I've heard quite a lot about Noodler's Apache Sunset, and I love that the color actually "changes" - yellow, gold, red, orange. (Is there a word for this??? It is different than just 'Shading'... but I'm not sure if there is another term to use.) I'd like to know if you guys can recommend some other inks that show this phenomenon. I am especially interested in greens, and also blue/purple range. I've heard there might be a blue/purple with maroon shading in it for instance. The only green I know of is Rohrer & Klingner Alt-Goldgrun. Possibly also Edelstein Aventurine. (Not sure on that one. I saw one pic that made me think yes.) Any suggestions you might have would be greatly appreciated! (I'm using dip and fountain pens.)

This is my current favorite ink. I love the shading and the character that comes with this one.

We have had our first delivery of Pelikan Edelstein Amethyst Ink of the Year as bottled or in cartridges. http://www.pelikanpens.co.uk/acatalog/Amethyst1.jpg It can be bought here for £12.80: http://www.pelikanpens.co.uk/acatalog/Pelikan-Edelstein-Ink-Bottles.html http://www.pelikanpens.co.uk/acatalog/amethystCarts.gif The cartridges can be bought for £4.45 here: http://www.pelikanpens.co.uk/acatalog/Pelikan-Edelstein-Ink-Cartridges-Amethyst-Ink-of-the-Year-2015.html

Most of my comments are above. The paper is Block Rhodia No. 18 (size A4, 80g paper). This ink is quite beautiful, I see it as a dark royal tone i.e. slightly reddish in comparison with La Reine Mauve or Murasaki Shikibu (the only other two purples I own right now). It does sometimes take a little starting in my Monteverde Invincia sometimes, but I attribute that more to my being lefthanded than to the ink or pen. Drying time seems good--by the 30 second mark it was totally dry to the touch. Shading is existent but not super obvious like in my other inks (tsuki-yo comes to mind). This will definitely be a regular of mine. I'm glad I hopped on board with this new ink. I know it's expensive, but eh... there's a collector's angle with these inks (and the bottles are gorgeous). I have some more inks coming in the mail, but they are all well known already. Can't wait! This is my first ink review. ETA: Oops, I misspelled "Pelican" in the written review, thinking of the English name for the bird. Oh well. Not the first, nor the last person to misspell the name of that company

Here's my current squad. There are a few more pens not inked and a few more inks not used, but these are combinations I've found to work perfectly. http://i.imgur.com/8WuvXQr.jpg Any questions about either pens or inks welcomed - it's half 5 in the morning here and I've been up over two hours already...

Hello, My bottle of Edelstein Topaz has a scent that I've never smelled before in an ink. It's a weird odor that I don't know how to describe other than kind of sweet. Is this normal? I've only had the bottle for about a month and the smell hasn't changed since first testing it, but after buying a bottle of the Edelstein Tanzanite (which does not share this strange fragrance) I thought it might be best to ask before trying the Topaz again (this time in one of my favorite pens). Thank you all for your help! Bahij

For the last couple of months, I have been searching for the right blue black for my writing needs: it needed to be wet, smooth, dark without looking black and as saturated as possible while still rinsing out easily (with water only) from a vintage celluloid pen. I had tried every shade of dark blue and blue black from my usual go-to brands Herbin, R&K, and Diamine and was ready to attempt mixing my own ink using the recipe of Waterman Blue, Black and Purple that girlieg33k posted in a thread on this site, when my last two blue black samples arrived from the Goulet Pen Company: Caran d’Ache Magnetic Blue and Pelikan Edelstein Tanzanite. This was my first Caran d’Ache ink and my second ink from Edelstein. (I recently tried Topaz and was disappointed for two reasons: 1. I was expecting the Edelstein line to be on the wetter side and 2. Topaz, when dry, was nowhere near as vibrant as what I thought a color named after the gemstone should look like....) Comparison In the wet nib of the 1950s 146 and on Rhodia paper, Magnetic Blue and Tanzanite look very similar with Tanzanite being a little more saturated. Both inks were well behaved and started immediately even when resting the pen uncapped for a minute. Both colors neither feathered nor bled through even when dripped in heaping blobs on the page. Yet, the experience of writing with both inks differed greatly. Magnetic Blue Magnetic Blue reminded me of many of the Montblanc inks I’ve used that look beautiful on the page but that don’t suit my heavier hand. Don’t get me wrong; writing with the ink was not unpleasant, but the ink’s average flow and smoothness failed to meet the expectations I had for a $30 bottle of ink. I did not have the magnetic attraction to this ink that I wanted to have and after playing with it for 20 min I was more than ready to empty it out of my pen. I will say that Magnetic Blue was extremely easy to clean. Tanzanite I was a little nervous about filling Tanzanite in my pen because the pigments clung somewhat menacingly to the walls of the plastic Goulet vials. But, I put my trust in Pelikan's track record and took the plunge. The moment the nib touched the page I was blown away. (Tanzanite performed very differently from its sister ink Topaz.) The ink has a perfect flow that does not feel runny or slippery but rather provides just the right amount of smoothness to allow a nib to flex and dance across the page with ease. If I had to sum up this ink in one word it would be: LUSCIOUS. Unlike with Magnetic Blue, the attraction was definitely there; this was not an ink that I could pull myself away from and rinse out of my pen in order to try a sample from one of the other color families I ordered. Needless to say, I used every drop of Tanzanite before cleaning the pen. So, did the ink pass the cleaning test? YES! In fact, it rinsed out just as easily as Magnetic Blue. Bonus: I thought I was losing it when I started to see a very subtle reddish shimmering halo around some of the letters written in Tanzanite. A day later, I could still see something there. This sheen was nowhere near as intense as the sun-kissed golden puddles of Sargasso Sea, but warranted further investigation. I dipped a q-tip in what was left of the vial and applied it to the page and am pleased to report that it was no mirage; around the edges of the wetter areas the ink formed a coppery sheen! Final Verdict Based on my needs, Tanzanite is the clear winner of the two and the closest ink out of all the samples I’ve tried to my ideal blue black. I will be picking up a bottle before the fall semester starts and am excited to finally have a blue black ink to add to my rotation of colors for this pen!

Having just spotted the lovely-looking Diamine Peach and Coral on Amber's thread, I was wondering if anyone could let me know how they compare to Pelikan's Edelstein Mandarin please? I have the latter, but a pinky-orange might be nice to own too, if it's different enough Thank you!

I received an email from Fahrney's Pens advertising new Edelstein long catridges. Upon checking the Fahrney's site, http://www.fahrneyspens.com/Item--i-363266S?src=WP200714SENTTOEL&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=Inhouse&utm_campaign=140710, I found the option for Edelstein Sapphire Blue. Since I had purchased a lot of Parker Penman Blue Sapphire ink before it became impossible to find and since I have been using Private Reserve American Blue catridges for the travel needs of my pens taking international size cartridges, I have not tried Edelstein Sapphire Blue ink; having a lot of Parker Penman Blue Sapphire ink, I have not needed to buy bottled ink. Since the picture of an ink blob on the Fahrney's site looked promising in regard to color, I wanted to ask how the Edelstein Sapphire Blue ink compares in color to my beloved Parker Penman Blue Sapphire and my substitute Private Reserve American Blue. Has anyone used each of these inks? If so, how do they compare in color? In particular, how does the color of Edelstein Sapphrie Blue compare to the rich deep color of Parker Penman Blue Sapphrire? Thanks! : )

I originally posted this review at my blog here with more pictures and better formatting. Please visit and tell me what you think of it. Pelikan Edelstein Topaz Review http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Pn2PtGjAUlA/U6Cze5zniOI/AAAAAAAAAG8/grscdN-97X8/s1600/DSC_0153.JPG Specifications:Manufacturer: PelikanLine: EdelsteinColour: Turquoise MSRP: $25Actual Price: $15-$30Price I paid: $20 from my local storeAmount of Ink: 50 mlCost per ml: 40 ¢/ml at $20; 50 ¢/ml at $25Where to Buy: $19.83* at Amazon, $22.40 at Goulet Pens, $27.50 at Jet Pens, £12.50 from The Writing Desk in the UK, and €13.95 from La Couronne du Comte in Europe. * All prices are the prices at the time of this review's writing on June 17, 2014. Qualities:Bottle: A nice glass bottle; I had no trouble filling pens with larger nibs from it and will reuse the bottle.Sheen: An easily visible red sheenShading: Excellent shading, but it isn't as noticeable as Noodler's Apache Sunset or similar inksWater Resistance: Fairly water resistant; Words are still legibleFeathering: MinimalBleed through: MinimalShow through/ Ghosting: ModerateWetness: Extremely wetLubrication: Very well lubricated; pens instantly feel smoother with this inkStaining: As far as I have seen, this ink does not stain.Cleaning: The ink cleans out of a pen very easily.Safe for Vintage Pens?: Yes, I use this ink in my Parker 45 with the original squeeze converter.Okay on Copier Paper?: Yes, but there is feathering and extreme show through http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8wP-NSmMx_s/U6C0HcvivUI/AAAAAAAAAHw/rJYmVxSWETE/s1600/DSC_0159.JPG Uses for This Ink: Writing Informal Letters - I prefer to use only black for formal letters.Taking notes - how I use Topaz most of the timeCalligraphy - The excellent shading makes it fantastic in dip pens or italic nibs.Journaling - The sheen adds a nice flair to anything you write. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g82D_hIwD7E/U6Cz3KUxY0I/AAAAAAAAAHo/JD00BvTOtbg/s1600/DSC_0157.JPGWriting Sample:Pen: Visconti RembrandtPaper 1: Black 'n' Red notebook paperPaper 2: Copier paper http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8je4GN0d3Yg/U6DG8854ynI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/wdi0MUvaKIc/s1600/SCAN0012.JPG http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-j2lkLkcvbts/U6DG9p_eM6I/AAAAAAAAAKA/Z6DZLxFbcWw/s1600/SCAN0013.JPG http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-j-AHp_QHHzE/U6DG0kzqb-I/AAAAAAAAAJ0/1hl5-RyPG-g/s1600/SCAN0010.JPG http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SWveAYAB8iw/U6DGx45DkRI/AAAAAAAAAJs/twvXA3wxt2E/s1600/SCAN0011.JPG Score: 10/10- My favorite ink Thanks for reading and please visit my blog for more reviews like it.

Another bright orange. I've picked up a few lately. This one really does remind me of mandarin oranges. Flow is wet. Has a traditional feel. A bit like an Iroshizuku ink, which I guess is appropriate considering both their premium placements. Honestly, I like Yu yake better for flow. Operation Overlord Orange has more water resistance. And I'm a big fan of Apache Sunset with more shading. That's my personal preference. But I do like all of these oranges color-wise.

Hello. Hope all are well. I bought (too quickly) the Pelikan Edelstein Amber "2013 Ink of the Year" Mostly based on the Edelstein name along with Ink of the Year thrown in... I've tried again and again, but just do not like the ink. My fault though. Impulse purchase. Farheny's won't exchange it for a credit (they do have their policy) and my last resort is to go straight to the source. Cannot find their address for Pelikan or Edelstein anywhere. If anyone has this info, please share...Thank you, Leroy P.S. A very good ink, but the color isn't very unique and have others too similar...LWL

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Hello. Hope all are well. Not sure if I should be here or Inky Thoughts. Anyway. I purchased th Pelikan Edelstein Amber 2013 Ink of the Year and was wondering what others who may have bought this ink think of it ? I primarily bought it for two reasons: Edelstein's inks reputation for quality and it being Ink of the Year. I know: petty reason...To be honest, this ink was so-so and didn't do much for me. Yes, it wrote well, was saturated, good shading, etc...If anyone would like to share their experience with me and others, it would be greatly appreciated...Thanks again, LeRoy

Hi, This is my first ink review on FPN. I generally do them in my blog but I also wanted to share something here. I hope it can be usefull.

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