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Dear All, we have just received the information about the upcoming new Special Edition from Pelikan: the Stone Garden fountain pen and ballpoint pen. The design and the name of the pens are inspired by stone gardens and tries to capture their special atmosphere. With the combination of dark blue resin and blue-brown marbled cellulose-acetat this Pelikan Special Edition is an eyecatcher. We are offering the fountain pen and ballpoint pen for pre-order starting now. The fountain pen costs € 349,58 without VAT and the ballpoint pen € 245,38 without VAT plus shipping costs. More information can be found here: https://www.fritz-schimpf.de/Neuheiten/Pelikan-Souveraen-Special-Edition-M800-Stone-Garden-Kolbenfuellhalter.html Best regards Fritz Schimpf
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G'day FPN I know the only real answer to this question is 'try them out!' but all the way down here in Australia there seems to be a scarcity of brick & mortar pen shops, so I'd love to hear from you: Is there any rule of thumb for marrying a pen size to a hand size? theres a lot of talk around the forums of large and small hands, but as it's so subjective what size 'large' hands actually are, and obviously the weight distribution of the actual pen in hand plays a huge part in what makes it balanced or not. the Safari I use at the moment is a little back heavy when posted (those pens are really quite long though) so what factors would lead you to decide between an M400, 600, 800 or 1000 apart from visuals or price? heres a picture of my hand for reference, with a pen we all know and love -Kieran
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I noticed yesterday that PelikanPens (pelikanpens.co.uk) is now selling 2B nibs for the M80* range, in both two-tone and rhodinated finishes. There is a bit of a price premium, but nothing too dramatic. (For information, as nobody seems to have posted about it yet; no affiliation apart from having bought from them in the past.) Note to moderators: this is on the cusp of belonging here and in the Marketwatch section. I placed it here because of the specialised nature of the information. Please feel free to move it if that would be more appropriate.
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Review Of Pilot S20 & Rotring 800 Mechanical Pencils
sannidh posted a topic in It Writes, But It Is Not A Fountain Pen ....
Dear FPNers, This is a review of two mechanical pencils - rotring 800 and the lesser known pilot s20. Both are very different in both design and make and I have not compared them in anything apart from their dimensions. In case you face any problem with the pictures, please feel free to read the same in the below link: http://iwonder-thecartographer.blogspot.in/2014/12/review-of-pilot-s20-rotring-800.html A mechanical pencil was a totally utilitarian thing during my engineering days, be it for drafting engineering drawings or making graphs. Shortly after, their utility started diminishing when AutoCAD and other drawing software could address most of the design elements, although their luxury value started beaming. Like fountain pens. Sparsely used but heavily sought after. That reminds me that I am still typing this post on a laptop rather than using one of my FPs. Mechanical pencils can delve from cheap plastic to rugged metal to precious wooden designs. In my view, metal designs seem to showcase more of modern industrial utility whereas wooden designs foray more into the aesthetics part of it.Mechanical Pencils A brief history in timeAccording to wikipedia, the earliest form of a mechanical pencil was found in a ship-wreck (British ship HMS Pandora) in 1791. However, the first patent was filed in 1822 by Mordan & Hawkins in Great Britain. Later Mordan started manufacturing mechanical pencils under the company – “S.MORDAN & CO”. Leads upto 0.9 mm wide became popular by this time. By 1915, Japanese were into it and Tokuji Hayakawa started a company to manufacture mechanical pencils, which later came to be known as “Sharp” due to its first product – ‘Ever-Sharp mechanical pencil’. After the entire pencil division was destroyed in 1923, by the Great Kanto Earthquake, Sharp relocated to Osaka and forayed into electronics industry.Pilot S20 – 0.5 mmA maple wood contoured design with a deep brown colour renders a very natural feel with a classical wooden look. The entire end cap section is made out of aluminium with a steel lead sleeve, till the seamlessly finished wooden grip section comes up. The grip section gradually gains diameter going upwards from the end-cap (0.8 – 1.1 mm) till it reaches a small aluminium band which says ‘S20’ and ‘JAPAN’ on opposite sides of the band. Then, it narrows down towards the push-button section, till it comes across a pilot branded aluminium clip and finally ends up with the aluminium(+ plastic) push-button. http://s25.postimg.org/as4nm48tr/DSC_1089.jpghttp://s25.postimg.org/gzbg8jf73/DSC_1093.jpghttp://s25.postimg.org/3rgntc71r/IMG_2806.jpgThere is a lead-indicator in the push-button. To set the lead indicator, you have to remove the push-button which reveals an ubiquitous mechanical pencil’s eraser and rotate the pipe end of the push-button. The eraser section once removed shows a hosted clean-out rod. Design does seem minimalistic with a subtle emphasis on simplicity. The weight feels quite evenly distributed and the length of around 15 cm is quite comfortable to write or draw for extended periods. Sweaty slips at the grip section should be quite rare or even a non-occurrence. The grip section feels very firm.The pencil itself comes in two wooden variants – Red and Brown.http://static1.jetpens.com/images/a/000/021/21865.JPG The mechanism operates with a audible click sound at the push-button and is quite error free. It’s quite comfortable to use for long writing or drawing sessions. As per my experience, putting additional 4-6 leads inside the lead reservoir tube will not cause any blocking problems at the sleeve end. The S20 ends with comfortable aesthetics.For the disassembly part, the end-cap with the sleeve can be easily unscrewed from the barrel and the push-button and eraser-sections can be pulled out easily. I did not attempt any further disassembly, as the parts of the barrel seemed tightly fixed.Rotring 800 – 0.5 mm http://s25.postimg.org/86z2yljfz/DSC_1100.jpg As evident from the above picture, the lead sleeve does not come out unless you rotate the top knurled section which rests just below the gold-trim of the push button. So a completely retractable mechanical pencil with an all metal construction. Mostly constituted out of coated brass, the 800 has a weight of around 25 g compared to S20’s 18 g. To draw a comparison, both of them will be heavier than a Pelikan M400 or a Sailor-Pro gear slim fountain pen. It is available in two themes – silver and black. Design seems utilitarian, industrial with a subtle emphasis on its high-end design. It’s somehow evidenced by the gold trims to differentiate it from a 600. The sleeve comes out smoothly on half a rotation of the knurled switch. With a feeling of balanced heaviness and assurance, the pencil seems superior to many. The hexagonal cross section of the barrel prevents it from slipping from inclined planes and the knurled grip does the same for your fingertips. The tip apparently can wiggle a bit compared to other fixed sleeve-pencils (like 600), but does not really do so while in use. http://s25.postimg.org/pizfk1cxb/DSC_1096.jpg Very uniform yet very attractive to use. The pencil can be disassembled easily by removing the knurled grip section to reveal the inner tube. Cleaning can be done if required. The eraser cap and eraser section can be pulled out. The clip mentions ‘rotring’ while the backside of the hexagonal body says ‘JAPAN’ quite elusively. http://s25.postimg.org/7ccjckblb/IMG_2805.jpg In ConclusionA mechanical pencil will typically cost around 50 cents in my part of the world. But these two are beyond just mechanical pencils, perhaps a work of art and even a draftsman dream . Writing http://s25.postimg.org/qrnb5o4vj/DSC_1103.jpg FeaturePilot S20 Rotring 800Additional CommentsLengthPilot S20Fixed Sleeve ~ 14.6 cmRotring 800Retracted Sleeve ~ 13.5 cmExtended Sleeve ~ 14.3 cmQuite Comfortable with respect to both length and weightWeightPilot S2018 gRotring 80025 gDesignPilot S20Maple wood and aluminium construction with Lead Grade Indicator at top cap- Red and Brown VariantsRotring 800Brass construction, Gold Trim, Matte Finish with hexagonal anti-slip faces on barrel, Knurled grip- Black and Silver Variants- Both are ‘Made in Japan’ by the wayBarrelPilot S20Contoured Wood – 0.8 – 1.1 cmRotring 800Knurled brass – 0.8 cm diameter- Both engage the writer in a non-slip(y) wayTipPilot S20Fixed Sleeve, Loud Click, Aluminium/Steel lead sleeveRotring 800Retractable Sleeve, Gold trimmed sleeve MechanismPilot S20 Hard ClickSoft Click Lead CapacityPilot S20~ 6 -8 without blockingRotring 800~ 10 without blocking Economic ValuePilot S20 Retails at $33, can be obtained at around $ 20-25 with shipRotring 800 Retails at $70, can be obtained around $60 from ebay-sellers- You can get a mechanical pencil at 50 cents!!- However, these are more than just mechanical pencils, perhaps a draftsman’s dreamBoxPilot S20- Pilot BoxRotring 800 - A triangular cardboard box Thank you for going through the review. -
I recently bought a rOtring 800 mechanical pencil off of amazon. It was from them and not a third party seller. After several days of use and research, I've noticed that the cap has a hole in it and you can see through to the eraser. On all the pictures of rOtring 600 and 800's, I've never seen that. Is this an old model? New model? A fake? Any help on whether this is normal or not would be appreciated, thanks! Drew