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Is there a length difference between the jbar in a J and an SJ? I have an SJ that the section doesn't seem to want to go into all the way. Without taking the jbar out, it appears to be the original type. I tried to see if it would go in further, but it seems to be in all the way. Does it take a different bar or is the section a different size, maybe?

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The SJ and J take the same size of j bar. the Dollar and Transitional Js both use longer j bars. Are you using an aftermarket j bar? I've noticed that those can be too thick and can prevent the section from seating properly.

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The SJ and J take the same size of j bar. the Dollar and Transitional Js both use longer j bars. Are you using an aftermarket j bar? I've noticed that those can be too thick and can prevent the section from seating properly.

 

I haven't taken it out, yet, but I guess I'll have to. It appears to be an original type, though.

Be back after I pull it out.

Matt Ashbrook

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2 Parker 51 Special, M & F

Various Esterbrook Js, LJs, SJs

Sheaffers - 2 Desk pens, a Snorkel, a 1955 Texaco cartridge

Lamy Al-Star

 

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Well, that settles that. I took it out and it's not original, although it''s similar. But, it's way too long. So, I guess I order a new one. Thanks.

Matt Ashbrook

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2 Parker 51 Special, M & F

Various Esterbrook Js, LJs, SJs

Sheaffers - 2 Desk pens, a Snorkel, a 1955 Texaco cartridge

Lamy Al-Star

 

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Is there a diagram of how the jbar fits on an Estie? Is there a return spring or is the bar itself the spring? I have a J where the bar tends to pop up, and I'd like to remedy that.

 

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Richard Binder's website has drawings of the insides of a lever filling pen that will give you a good idea of how the jbars work. Others on this forum are more expert than I, but my limited experience (only about a dozen Esties) has turned up more than one style of jbar. If the lever and the bar line up well, then the lever seems to lie flat. (Hate it when a lever is loose, the pen is slid into a holder, catches the lever, and pushes it up :yikes:

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Richard Binder's website has drawings of the insides of a lever filling pen that will give you a good idea of how the jbars work. Others on this forum are more expert than I, but my limited experience (only about a dozen Esties) has turned up more than one style of jbar. If the lever and the bar line up well, then the lever seems to lie flat. (Hate it when a lever is loose, the pen is slid into a holder, catches the lever, and pushes it up :yikes:

Try this thread.

 

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Richard Binder's website has drawings of the insides of a lever filling pen that will give you a good idea of how the jbars work. Others on this forum are more expert than I, but my limited experience (only about a dozen Esties) has turned up more than one style of jbar. If the lever and the bar line up well, then the lever seems to lie flat. (Hate it when a lever is loose, the pen is slid into a holder, catches the lever, and pushes it up :yikes:

Try this thread.

 

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Thank you for pointing toward the cutaway and Richard Binder's diagram. Now I just have to figure out how to do the actual j bar and/or lever replacement...

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Thank you for pointing toward the cutaway and Richard Binder's diagram. Now I just have to figure out how to do the actual j bar and/or lever replacement...

If you order a new J-bar then get a 54 mm version. It is as close as you need to the correct size. To install it just slide it in with a needle nose pliers. (Order the bulk pack to get the cost down. I think Tryphon will let you mix and match for the bulk price.)

 

The lever is held in place with what looks like a wire ring that snaps into a groove in the barrel. I take them out by pushing down and giving a little twist.

 

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